oh hell yeah. this calls for a party. commando likes a recent RGV presentation No seriously, I hope they are still going to play it on Saturday at the local theater...I'll go watch it alone if I have to

will read your in depth review after watching it

I was wondering where Mola Ram and Yuvan were hiding... Enjoy the show, Yuvan; I hope you post your thoughts when you get back.

yup, i was missing them too, molaram the universal rgv defender lol, lets hear their part of the story too

Nishabd ´- Why Ramgopal Varma Gets It Wrong Again
By: Abid
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Ramgopal Varma's recent films have given all those associated with them more reason to fret than felicitate . The maverick filmmaker seems to be suddenly getting it wrong again and again . The inevitable failure of his latest film , 'Nishabd' , could well be one more addition in the swelling list of his flops . We all know that 'Nishabd' has been inspired by by the Hollywood film , 'American Beauty' . Rather than Indianising the bold story , Ramu has actually not even included elements from the original (which could have appealed to the Indian audience) .


For instance , the elderly hero in 'American Beauty' is shown to be passing through a midlife crisis and his affair with a girl , his daughters age could be construed to be a fallout of that crisis .

This point could have made a lot of sense to the Indian audience too , but Ramgopal Varma's hero in 'Nishabd' is shown to be a happily married man . And that is the question that has bothered the cinegoer's mind : why did the elderly man have an affair with the young girl ?

Maybe Ramu can answer that !

btw: with all modification, film is inspired from venus or same resource, some scenes are executed in same styles too

Abid's a retard -- . Nishabd is not "inspired by" American Beauty, and reading the several recent claims that it is, shows, in my opinion, the near-unassailable drive that some people have to pin any Indian film on something Hollywood-made, and to just generally trash Indian cinema. Pre-release: "it must be a rip-off of Lolita." Shortly post-release: "Well, ...American Beauty? Yeah, sure: American Beauty. Wait, no? OK... it's 'almost' like American Beauty, and would have been better if... if it had ripped off it, instead." As for "Indianizing" it, suck my dick. Nishabd opted to tell a story rather than to follow the conventions that some might have expected it to. Is this appreciated? Hell no. If it had followed conventions, the cries would have been, "why dumb it down? Why not just say what you want to say?" It's fine to not like a movie, but the reasons, this time around, are getting preposterous. Hell, most people who liked the movie don't seem to have the balls to say so without adding, "it's not for the masses."

American Beauty was about a man's "mid-life crisis"; and... thus, Nishabd should also have been? Bra-fucking-vo.

The "question" is not a "question," but the presentation of a scenario. Also, we don't know that Vijay is "happily married," just that he's "married, and not miserable."

So, maybe you (Abid) can go to hell.

By the way, I believe that Nishabd finished shooting prior to the release of Venus. By the way, as well, the former did not echo the latter.

*This has been a rant. Thanks.

I heard on the radio last week about how this has been a mega flop in India with empty cinema halls. Why do they have to report of an Asian UK radio news how much of a flop an Indian film is? Are they trying to beat RGV while he's down?

I hear this film is described as an Indian Poison Ivy, any truth in that?
And what's this I hear about Amitabh smooching the girl? Did this really happen or is my friend lying?

I, too, have read that, Mr_Khiladi: "Nishabd is India's failed attempt at Poison Ivy." Rest assured that it's more bull-shit. American Beauty, Venus, Poison Ivy: Nishabd is like none. If the topic is just "older man with younger woman," then, yes, it's been done before; by no means, however, may an idea be attempted freshly "only once." Topics are limited, as are aspects of human beings; it's execution that matters. Nishabd is its own film, presented as Ram Gopal Varma's unique, compelling vision. Like it or not, the movie is not to be written off as a "copy" of anything.

If you want to know without watching the film, then, yes, Amitabh Bachchan and Jiah Khan share a kiss. It's short, a bit reminiscent of that between Bachchan and Rani Mukherjee in Black, and it drives the plot forward. Why not check out the movie?

I will go check it out. Anything different from typical bollywood has to be appreciated. I'm not bothered with kissing in Indian films, just that I remember Mr Bachchan saying how he was uncomfortable with kissing in films, yet now he's done 2 kissing scenes with much younger actresses who are young enough to be his daughters, but he has a problem with the Aishwariya-Hrithik kiss in Dhoom 2! Is this man not a hypocrite?

I, myself, wasn't too clear about what was going on with the whole "Aishwarya Rai-Hrithik Roshan kiss" thing in Dhoom 2. I read in an article or two that the Bachchans asked to have the scene removed from the film, but never heard any Bachchan verify this in a live interview. Further, I saw the movie in theaters, and the kiss was there; I understand, as well, that the kiss is present on the DVD release.

As for Amitabh Bachchan, I, too, recall having read more than once his stating that he would likely never perform an on-screen kiss. I recall, too, however, that he went on to say that this wasn't because he felt it was "dirty" or "inappropriate" to do so, but simply because, as you wrote, he was uncomfortable with it. Maybe he meant something more like what happened in Dhoom 2, or maybe he just "got comfortable with it" (or maybe he just did it "uncomfortable").

Hehehe.......well said Commando....its been pretty annoying that people are harping on it being lolita and american beauty....
And just because the movie has flopped its a bad movie....if thats the case then Dhoom is the best movie ever for being the biggest hit!....

dhoom 2, do were bad movies, so do dhoom, paheli, kank, eklavya etc.

sur was an excellent film, but flopped too..so what.

Sur, starring Lucky Ali? I thought it was OK ("Kabhi Shyam Shale" and a few other numbers were great, though). I hate "comparisons," but the movie resembled Abhimaan to a good degree, the latter being far superior.

Finally managed to watch this movie. I found it to be a very average and pretty uninteresting love story, bordering on the boredom level. The few words AB ushers at very end of the movie are rather poignant although hardly a saving grace for this movie, didn’t feel anything for any of the other characters in the movie. Missable 4/10

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