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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:12 am 
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Looks like Ayngaran has released Anniyan

http://e-sales.ac/ayngaran/Films_on_DVD_NEW.html


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i know of atleast 1 person who is going to be ultra-happy with this news :) , looking forward to screenshots


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he he....cover looks different from what I expected. No signs of extras, but whatever...at least a decent dvd is fine.

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Too bad your taste doesnot gel with mine , if you think you want to shed light on what Anniyan means to you in the other Anniyan thread ( http://zulm.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t= ... highlight= ) that will be very much appreciated.


As much as I would like to do that, I'm not a good debater and I don't think I can change your mind about the film. So why bother. It seems like you have different standards for judjing different movies. i only categorize Anniyan as the best among typical masala films and never claimed its Oscar material or even national award material. I don't care if its send for an Oscar or not. It gets my Oscar for the film that entertained me most in the recent times. Also if you're determined to find the negative aspects of a film, sure you can find tons...but that beats the whole purpose of movie watching for me. I've seen Indian, Mudhalvan and all those movies which are supposed to be very much like this. Other than the theme of anti corruption, there is not a single frame that is alike in these films.

Kadhal - watchable once- better than expected- above average type of movie...not an out and out entertainer like Anniyan. And while the climax of Anniyan left me satisfied, Kadhal ended with a downer. Maybe you like to see all sorts of cast issues and other imaginary theories that people come up with in that movie.

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"Pseudo-socialist" is right. Shankar's films purport to have some meaning in them, but he wraps the (flimsy) message in so much masala and noise that it totally negates the meaningful aspect of the film.


I say he is successful in reaching out to the masses in a much more larger way than any other so called "meaningful" directors. Those "meaningful" films without masala ingredients are a no show at the box office. [/quote]


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After LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon wait.

We are expecting the dvd mid-next week. DVD is releasing in UK today.


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Also if you're determined to find the negative aspects of a film, sure you can find tons...but that beats the whole purpose of movie watching for me.


Its not really about "finding" negative aspects in films. They will usually leap out at you. Sometimes you like a film despite the negative aspects, sometimes they can kill the film for you.

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"Pseudo-socialist" is right. Shankar's films purport to have some meaning in them, but he wraps the (flimsy) message in so much masala and noise that it totally negates the meaningful aspect of the film.


I say he is successful in reaching out to the masses in a much more larger way than any other so called "meaningful" directors. Those "meaningful" films without masala ingredients are a no show at the box office.



I liked Anniyan, but somehow I don't think people will be inspired to do anything better because of it. The only thing Shankar's financial success shows is that people want to be entertained at the box office. McDonald's is probably the most commonly seen food chain in the world, but that doesn't mean their food is any good.

Mudhalvan was the worst offender as far as social messages. If he had stuck with the idea of a guy being CM for a day, it would have been a more interesting film. Instead, he adds that insipid love story (with Manisha Koirala's grating performance) and the end result is just some masala film.


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Anniyan cover is similar to Indian cover - so does the movie!


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I do not understand why peeps here always compare Anniyan with Shankar's pervious films. Sure, they have a similar theme, but the plots are different. Many filmmakers like to explore a similar theme throughout their filmography.

Whatever peeps think, there is no denying that all of his films has entertained me, and has made get my money’s worth. Even his weak ones like Jeans and Boys, which surprisingly still have repeat value too them.

Yeah…sure the action scenes feel a rip off, but its build up and execution is much better then in other "hollywood rip offs" like Dus and Chocolate.

However, I do agree on one thing. Anniyan is in no way Oscar material, even if its banner is named after the Oscars. The Indian panel are indeed stupid - haven't they seen Iqbal or Matroboomi??


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Granted, Dus was ripped off from many english films, but I felt that the movie was well executed and slickly made as compared to all the movies mentioned.


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Dus was godawful. It was so poorly directed and full of mistakes that could have easily been corrected with proper direction. The director made 2 awful movies before (Tum Bin, Aapko Pehle Bhi Kahin Dekha Hai) and Dus is no exception. The best part of the movie was the opening credit (with the Dus Bahane song). You have a superhit song, and instead of mounting a huge item number around it, you keep it for the opening credits. Anniyan was far better. Sure it had flaws, and thematically was similar to Shankar's earlier movie, Indian (vigilante justice). However, it was an entertaining film and Vikram did a good job in the various roles he portrayed. I'll be buying the Ayngaran DVD for sure.

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While Vikram did indeed to a good job, the premise was not beleivable unlike Dus and the first half was too prolonged. I do not neccessarily look for stories without loopholes as much as I look for smooth narration and a beleivable storyline (of course whats beleivable depends on the genre). I found the movie to be difficult to sit through in the first half. The second half was markedly better

Lest you think I liked the whole movie, it was spoiled by the overly sentimental, dragged out ending


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DragunR2 wrote:

I liked Anniyan, but somehow I don't think people will be inspired to do anything better because of it.



You think people will be inspired to do better after watching some art film? The basic nature of people will never change...no matter how great a movie is. At least Anniyan creates an awareness of the problems..

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The only thing Shankar's financial success shows is that people want to be entertained at the box office. McDonald's is probably the most commonly seen food chain in the world, but that doesn't mean their food is any good.


Of course, Mcdonald's food is "good" in a sense...otherwise why would so many people go and eat "bad" food. similarly if so many people were entertained by Anniyan, it must be "good" in a sense. Its not like people in India don't have an option to watch good english action films.


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kchan wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:

I liked Anniyan, but somehow I don't think people will be inspired to do anything better because of it.



You think people will be inspired to do better after watching some art film? The basic nature of people will never change...no matter how great a movie is. At least Anniyan creates an awareness of the problems..


I'm not saying that art films will necessarily inspire anyone to do anything either, but the good ones like Swades will at least spark some sort of discussion among those who saw it, even if they didn't like it. Whereas Shankar's films are all SONGS ACTION MELODRAMA FLASH social message MORE ACTION MORE MELODRAMA MORE FLASH.
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The only thing Shankar's financial success shows is that people want to be entertained at the box office. McDonald's is probably the most commonly seen food chain in the world, but that doesn't mean their food is any good.


Of course, Mcdonald's food is "good" in a sense...otherwise why would so many people go and eat "bad" food. similarly if so many people were entertained by Anniyan, it must be "good" in a sense. Its not like people in India don't have an option to watch good english action films.


McDonald's seems appealing, yes, but its utterly forgettable food (at best) and unhealthy junk at worst.

I liked Anniyan, but that's despite its flaws. At least in Anniyan the message was LESS buried in the noise than in Shankar's other films. The scene in the arena highlighted the problem again before the end of the film. I did enjoy the vicarious thrill of seeing jerks getting their comeuppance, and the message itself was admirable, but Anniyan is first and foremost an entertainer, and not really a serious film on corruption and people's lack of common courtesy.


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I liked Anniyan, but that's despite its flaws. At least in Anniyan the message was LESS buried in the noise than in Shankar's other films. The scene in the arena highlighted the problem again before the end of the film. I did enjoy the vicarious thrill of seeing jerks getting their comeuppance, and the message itself was admirable, but Anniyan is first and foremost an entertainer, and not really a serious film on corruption and people's lack of common courtesy.


Problem is, if it was such a film, it would've been a huge flop. What happened to Swades...it was MESSAGE entertainment MESSAGE. Since the entertainment value was small people didn't want to see it. (I liked Swades very much by the way). But the same directors LAGAAN....mostly entertainment, with messages here and there. Then it works better.

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I'm not saying that art films will necessarily inspire anyone to do anything either, but the good ones like Swades will at least spark some sort of discussion among those who saw it, even if they didn't like it.


Well people did discuss Anniyan. Several people wrote articles supporting its messages and others against it. IMO, it did a much better job than the usual mindless masala films.


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Swades was inspired by real events, and people do start these little grassroots efforts to electrify a village or whatever the project may be.

Its true that Swades was made for its message, but I never felt like I was being preached to.


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