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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2002 4:22 pm 
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we have a choice of 3 films to make the first indain dts dvd

1 koyla
2 virasat
3 bullandi



want feed back from viewres which should we do as a dts dvd


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Virasat! :bored: but only if you do it properly ;)

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V!RASSAT!!unanimous pick!!
Koyla !!for its dynamic sound track!!
Bulandi, even with DTS i wont bUY?? sorry!
Lets get going JOLLY SINGH ji!! Good Luck!
BTW!! who will do the transfer!
Bili ke gale maen ghanti kon bandh raha hai? just analagy!! :baaa: :cool: :vsneaky:


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2002 5:40 pm 
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Bulandi has already got a very decent DVD from DEI. Even though non-anamorphic and cropped it’s got very good video and sound (proper, dynamic 5.1).

Koyla first Super Digital DVD had proper 5.1 sound (allegedly, I never checked it myself) then Video Sound messed this up when they re-released it on their label turning it into a pseudo 5.1.

Which leaves Virasat; I have the Video Sound DVD which has cropped video with the source marred with print problems. Sound is pathetic pseudo 5.1. This film deserves a very good DVD in terms of video and sound to capture the brilliant cinematography and mood of the film. IMDB lists the sound format as Dolby SR – where would the DTS come from? Also remember Sunnys review of this DVD (which mentions DTS soundtrack);

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(Super digital/ Video-Sound)
DIRECTED BY
Priyadarshan
PRODUCED BY
Mushir-Riaz
MUSIC:
Anu malik
WRITTEN BY
Kamal Hassan
STARRING:
Anil Kapoor
Amrish Puri
Pooja Bartra
Tabu &
Neeraj

DISC PICTURE FORMAT:
1.66:1 compressed widescreen
1.85:1 uncompressed widescreen

DISC SOUND FORMAT:
Dolby Digital 5.1

FILM ORIGINAL SOUND FORMAT(S):
Dolby Digital 5.1
Dolby SR
DTS Stereo
DTS 5.1
Mono

DISC CHAPTERS:
25

PACKAGING:
KEEP CASE

SUBTITLES:
English Subtitles
Chinese Subtitles
Japanese Subtitles

RUNNING TIME:
169 MINS

MENU:
Static

LAYERS:
Single sided/double layer

PICTURE: 5
SOUND: 5
THE MOVIE: 5
OVERALL VERDICT: 5
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Actor Kamal Hassan, who starred, written and produced the Tamil version of this film, Thevar Magan, along with S. Ganesan, won high acclaims for the film. Few years later the film was remade with Anil Kapoor in the lead, and this time he won high acclaims for his performance. Why? Because the story demands it. The story has elements of a Shakespeare tragedy, which make it one of best Indian cinema stories has ever told.

It begins with Shakti (Anil Kapoor) who has returned to his rural home from America. The village which his father runs has been filled with rivalry between his uncle and his father. Because Shakti has been aborad for so long, he does not understand the methods that Indian villagers uses for violence, and when he sees how wrong and how in the dark these villagers are in about life, he cannot stand it and wants to return to the civilisation his been brought up in, in the past few years. However his father hoped that his son would be able to fulfill his dream which was bring order and help to these villagers, to make them understand that revenge is not the only tool in life. However Shakti wants to open a fast food chain restaurants, and his father, who is reluctant about Shakti ideas, decides to give his blessing. However the stars of destiny change, as does Shakti's life when his father dies of a heart attack, and now the people of the village look upto him as their hope. Shakti, decides to take the role of his father dynasty, and inheritance. But now he faces more problems from his uncle, cousin, his love, and his life. What happens?

This is just part of a story that this film offers, and the ending of the film shows you a message that you'll remember while you are alive. This film is one of the best films ever, because of that message which the story tells.

The DVD version of this film is excellent. The colours are vibrant, and beautiful. The picture is grain free, very detailed, and there are no artifacts. This DVD should be made an example of what Indian people want on their DVD disc. (The American companies like Fox and B.Vista could learn a few tips as well). Transfer bit rate is quite high on this disc, ranging from 6Mbit/sec to 10Mbit/sec. As the picture has been compressed by Super Digital, if you have a widescreen T.V, then you can uncompress it with cinema mode. giving you a true 1.85:1 ratio of the film.

The sound of this film is also very good, free from noises and crackles. The bass tends to get too high though, but can be turned down if you have an amplifier.

The supplements you get is also very good. Three subtitling languages, English, Chinese, Japanese. all of which are very good and are placed on the picture of the film and not on the black bars. This means when you zoom up on the film on a widescreen television, you can still see the subtitling plus it doesn't get in the way of the picture at the same time. Other supplements include song selection, with good access, filmography, and other titles that SD/VD have to offer.


Overall View: If you don't have this DVD in your collection then you have just committed a crime, in my books.


Cynic that I am - I feel a con job developing here in the calibre of '3 disc Aankhen' set :rolleyes: :music:

Ali :baaa:


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2002 5:43 pm 
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My choice:

Yoy did not mention GADAR. Therefore:
VIRAASAT

More important than DTS is good anamorphic transfer with distinct half frames so that the video frames can be weaved back to Film frames in progressive DVD players.

Rana


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jolly wrote:
we have a choice of 3 films to make the first indain dts dvd

1 koyla
2 virasat
3 bullandi



want feed back from viewres which should we do as a dts dvd

Just out of interest, why is it only those three films that you have, and not any film released by GVI?


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bhaskar wrote:
jolly wrote:
we have a choice of 3 films to make the first indain dts dvd

1 koyla
2 virasat
3 bullandi



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want feed back from viewres which should we do as a dts dvd

Just out of interest, why is it only those three films that you have, and not any film released by GVI?

I'd agree, why just these 3 films? Although from the given choices, I'd like to see Virasaat on DTS DVD. But Indian films which I'd really like to see on DTS DVD are Company, Maachis, Border, Aks or Dil Se.

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Jolly u been smoking marijuana or is the real deal :D

Anyway if u do decide to do a DTS disc I would prefer Virasat, as it is a great movie.. pity about the original disc! :)

I got a couple of things to say about this thread btw..

i remember when I used to buy DVDs for 18 quid from rhtyhm after reading sunnys reviews.. looking back at them now, they seem utterly stale and seem utter bollox.. no offence though sunny.. maybe its just the sign of times showing that we want more out of our DVDs.. but the review of the super digital disc bought back memories...

Secondly, Rana...

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More important than DTS is good anamorphic transfer with distinct half frames so that the video frames can be weaved back to Film frames in progressive DVD players.


What on earth are u on bro... I luv my DVDs and want better discs.. but seriously what on earth are you on about.. no offence but just had to put that in... And i know id rather have a DTS soundtrack over the half frame thing ure on about!!


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I for one like to have properly done video than a DTS. If you watch it on big screen or Front Projector you can see the picture quite good vs worst if it is done progressively compared to an interlaced dvd. And eventually most of us going to buy a large screen HD TV or Projector as these prices are getting reasonable. And you will see the difference in picture Quality.
In my case, I have a HTPC and Progressive scan DVD player and as I use ATI dvd software player it can’t play DTS, but PQ is the best in its class.

I prefer to use HTPC for the better PQ versus my DVD player even thou I can get DTS from my DVD Player. For me the extra punch or clarity DTS offers is not sufficient enough to loose the PQ. It’s not day and night. I am sure other will disagree with me.


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LOL!! :rolleyes: :plain: :vsneaky: jolly -> :stupid:


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I would say although the original DVD of 'Koyla' had an excellent 5.1 sountrack, but it was a bit harsh sounding and also the picture quality left a lot to be desired (specially since it was cropped to 16:9) therefore it would be the best candidate for a new video transfer with DTS sound. The film in my opinion has some of the best 5.1 sound to date amongst all Indian films. By the way the music was also excellent and the film was also a lot better than its box office result might seem to indicate..


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Here! I agree with you Sanjay!
Koyla's music was 30-35% enhanced in the film being in 5.1 DTS!! format, thats how i watched this film in theatre..I really enjoyed music as stereo and more so as 5.1!

There was much more to music subtilities in already one of the best stereo cd sound recording, I think originally by TIMES ! that u could hear and enjoy in 5.1 DTS sound in the theatre! Superb! :baaa: :love: :cool:

I dont think, Virasat will benefit the same way, as surround on Koyla was more agressive IMHO!

But!! Virasat is a BETTER film than KOYLA, with one of the best music by ANU MALIK! :cool:


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Here! I agree with you Sanjay!
Koyla's music was 30-35% enhanced in the film being in 5.1 DTS!! format, thats how i watched this film in theatre..I really enjoyed music as stereo and more so as 5.1!

There was much more to music subtilities in already one of the best stereo cd sound recording, I think originally by TIMES ! that u could hear and enjoy in 5.1 DTS sound in the theatre! Superb! :baaa: :love: :cool:

I dont think, Virasat will benefit the same way, as surround on Koyla was more agressive IMHO!

But!! Virasat is a BETTER film than KOYLA, with one of the best music by ANU MALIK! :cool:

shame that Anu Malik gets credit for the music :p


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Pav Bha Ji!!Then who should be credited to? i'll be more than happy to credit the deserved one! :baaa: :vsneaky:


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arsh wrote:
Pav Bha Ji!!Then who should be credited to? i'll be more than happy to credit the deserved one! :baaa: :vsneaky:

*cough*ilayyaraja*cough*

you can also help me out by visitin this thread of mine:
http://www.zulm.net/cgi-bin....;t=1704

:) ;)


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