It is currently Sun Sep 28, 2025 8:36 pm

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 263 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 ... 18  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 2776
Location: I N D I A
Jodhaa Akbar has been released on DVD by BIG HOME VIDEO in India.
This too is a 3-disc set, and maybe the same transfer as the UTV released abroad.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:16 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2001 2:06 pm
Posts: 4944
Location: UK
FarooqBhai wrote:
... does this make you happy? don't bother replying...because frankly my dear, i don't give a damn.


Geez dude, bad time of the month or something? :lol:

Ali


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 2776
Location: I N D I A
NewDeep wrote:
Jodhaa Akbar has been released on DVD by BIG HOME VIDEO in India.
This too is a 3-disc set, and maybe the same transfer as the UTV released abroad.


This too, sadly, is non-anamorphic. Some shots from the Big Home Video / Big Music And Home Entertainment DVD:
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

Image
who's nasreen?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:08 pm
Posts: 448
ali wrote:
FarooqBhai wrote:
... does this make you happy? don't bother replying...because frankly my dear, i don't give a damn.


Geez dude, bad time of the month or something? :lol:

Ali


No...some people just have no honour - that's all that referred to.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:59 pm
Posts: 715
Location: Scotland
NewDeep wrote:
who's nasreen?


Nasreen Munni Kabir is an Indian/British documentary filmmaker and producer. She directed 'The Inner & Outer World Of Shah Rukh Khan' and produces an annual season of Indian films for the UK's Channel 4, all of which she subtitles herself.

She is an excellent subtitler and this is tremendous news that finally an Indian DVD will have a professional English translation. It's such a shame though that the DVD in question is also one of the most otherwise backwards in recent years thanks to this non-anamorphic rubbish.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 2776
Location: I N D I A
thanks stephen! for the info on nasreen munni kabeer.
yes, sad that jodhaa akbar has been released non-anamorphic letterbox on dvd. very disappointing indeed!

nevertheless, here are a couple of JANAMASHTAMI (being celebrated today/tomorrow) special shots from the BIG HOME VIDEO dvd of Jodhaa Akbar:
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:53 pm
Posts: 14989
vjmajic2002 wrote:
speaking of decent HD transfers,when is dim chahta hai bluray coming out mhafner? I don't understand what went wrong here with UTV as they are usually pretty good with their transfers. :shock:


REGRESSIVE FOOLS! :(


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2001 7:25 pm
Posts: 1799
Location: Sunny Manchester..............
FarooqBhai wrote:
faddy wrote:
maybe im being thick but i seriously dont see the point of these reconverted jobs.. you really cant improve that much if the source is shite.. especially if your converting 4:3 to anamorphic..


i've got a 60-inch plasma and would much rather prefer to have an anamorphic movie, and especially of something of this grandeur of a movie...

some of us work on shiiiit sources...that's what we have to work with....NOT the negatives. we do what we want to get our own perceived desired results...if you see no point, ignore it and move on...and be happy with your 4:3 jodhaa akbar discs...i'm happy now that i have my own DVD9s that i converted into 16:9 with something that looks better to MY own eyes...i do this work for MY eyes, not yours...so you go carry on your releasing work and stick to that. leave us encoders to something WE enjoy as a hobby...and perhaps there are a few people out there who appreciate the fact, that SOMETIMES we do something that is much better than what was given to us on a DVD9 platter by the likes of zEROS, uTv, YashRaj, Shemaroo.... ELITE is the BEST, absolute best from what I've seen overall...but if bollywood continues to give shiiiiiit work, i'll continue to improve on them as I personally see fit. does this make you happy? don't bother replying...because frankly my dear, i don't give a damn.


thanks.. hehe.. you make me laugh!!

regards


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:17 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:17 pm
Posts: 802
Location: USA
The price of this DVD is really low compared with other new releases. I wonder if UTV were fully aware of the screw-up earlier in the process and hence have priced it accordingly. Either that or they are ensuring that anyone who buys will double dip if a BD is released.

I haven't seen the movie yet - but I'm in no hurry to get this DVD as it's not worth wasting 3.5 hours watching a poor quality image (unless it's a Guru Dutt movie or someting very rare) - oh and UTV are a bunch of knobs for letting this movie get released in such a shoddy way.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:31 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:06 am
Posts: 90
If this movie gets released on Blu Ray while leaving the UTV version as the only DVD option, does anyone think this is a conspiracy between Sony and UTV to get Indians to convert to Blu Ray? Here is one of the most professionally-made epic Indian films in recent times - it's a pretty good title to get people to convert....ironically, the idea of "technology conversion" would be hippocritical due to the theme of this movie - let all religions/people live together in peace - come on, let DVD and Blu Ray live together in peace!;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:08 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:14 pm
Posts: 2256
Location: National Capital Region (India)
ali wrote:
NewDeep wrote:
quick question -- if you have a conventional 4x3 TV which does not have a 16x9 or squeeze mode, would you still want to buy an anamorphic widescreen dvd or would you want to buy a non-anamorphic widescreen dvd of the same movie?


Anamorphic every time. TVs ability to have 16x9 or squeeze mode is irrelevant as the DVD player will take care of outputting the video is the right format.

Ali

That's right on the money. Unless the material presented is 4x3 there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to ever make a DVD without anamorphic. UTV & BIG Home Video have really screwed up this DVD big time. Watching this on a 106" screen is absolutely painful. Compared to this crap from UTV, even the normal Yash Raj DVDs look very good. It is a real shame when companies like BIG Home Video, a company owned by Anil Ambani no less, cannot put out a half decent product. After all it's not like they don't have the funds to compete with the best, if only they had that desire.

Another thing, the audio seems too front centric to be correct. The surround speakers are active for no more than maybe 5 minutes in this 210 minute plus movie. I find it hard to believe that a movie of this scale could have such a poor audio mix. In fact, the music mix by A.R. Rehman in most films, makes excellent use of 5.1. Whereas, atleast on this DVD, there is absolutely ZERO use of the surround channels in any of the songs, including 'Azeem O Shaan Shahenshah'. I must say I have not been this dissapointed in a DVD, in a very, very long time. So is it just a poor job of transferring to DVD or does the sound mix of the movie really suck big time?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:18 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:14 pm
Posts: 2256
Location: National Capital Region (India)
NewDeep wrote:
If you have a 4x3 TV without an anamorphic mode or squeeze mode, you will have to set the dvd player to play at 4x3 mode. A player set to 4x3 mode will play an anamorphic dvd by deleting a line after every few lines from the anamorphic transfer uniformly from top to bottom -- doing so means that to fit the anamorphic source to a 4x3 display, the dvd player is eating lines (and therefore picture information) even from the "movie area".

However, if you have a 4x3 TV and a non-anamorphic widescreen DVD, the one plus of such a combo is that none of the information is deleted from within the movie area, if you know what I mean.

So on a 4x3-only TV, playing a non-anamorphic widescreen dvd gives you full information in the movie area (between the black bars) ---while--- playing an anamorphic dvd would give you lesser information in the movie area.

The above applies only to 4x3 TVs without squeeze or widescreen mode -- and true only for players set to play even anamorphic dvds at 4x3 mode.

So I suppose, you are championing the typical Indian mentality of catering to the lowest common denominator. Based on your logic, we should be prepared to be watching non-anamorphic Indian DVDs with mono sound, until the very last 4x3 tv incapable of a vertical squeeze mode exists. Which presumably would be for atleast another 10-15 yrs in a country like in India. Or better yet, they should be releasing the DVDs in Black & White, after all there are still quite a few of those around in India and as you must be well aware a B&W video is much better on a B&W tv, compared to colour video on a B&W tv. I suppose you must be a very happy man with the excrutiatingly loud 5.0 mono Indian DVDs which have audio mastered catering to the low end television sets in India.

Bottom line is, on a 19"-21" tv, the most common size of tvs in India, does it really matter about a few lines of resolution. I don't think so. Anyhow, without getting into the nitty gritty technical details, you really don't lose very much, if at all, with an anamorphic DVD on a 4x3 tv without vertical compression. That is simply because the non-anamorphic DVD has far less lines of resolution than the anamorphic DVD. Thus with an anamorphic dvd played on a 4x3 tv even without vertical compression, you still end up with approximately the same lines of resolution in the picture area, as you would get from a non-anamorphic DVD. The dropped lines are basically the ones that had been gained from the anamorphic transfer which utilizes the resolution of the entire 4x3 frame unlike the non-anamorphic DVD. Basically there is no real difference for the 4x3 tv without linear compression, the only difference being between losing the resolution at the time of transfer or losing it at the time of playback.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 2776
Location: I N D I A
no i am not championing anything -- i am as disappointed by the jodhaa akbar dvd as any other zulmi. What i was saying was it's always good to be well informed before taking up sides or trashing something -- which is not to say that bad products should not be trashed -- yes they should be -- but we should be well informed on what we are fighting for...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 8:14 pm
Posts: 1086
vjmajic2002 wrote:
speaking of decent HD transfers,when is dim chahta hai bluray coming out mhafner? I don't understand what went wrong here with UTV as they are usually pretty good with their transfers. :shock:

DCH BR not before spring 09. UTV is not involved.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 2776
Location: I N D I A
mhafner wrote:
vjmajic2002 wrote:
speaking of decent HD transfers,when is dim chahta hai bluray coming out mhafner? I don't understand what went wrong here with UTV as they are usually pretty good with their transfers. :shock:

DCH BR not before spring 09. UTV is not involved.

looks like the dvd authoring was neither done by utv nor by BIG -- it was Ashutosh G's decision all the way... and both have used the same source material.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 263 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 ... 18  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 25 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group