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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:10 pm 
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At $15 a ticket I'm shedding no tears for the distributors :roll: :nopity:


Shed the tear for the guy who had to go through 3 hour make up for 1 minute clipping.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:13 pm 
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No one has liked the film and said its on the same level as RGV KI AAG!!!!


Infact I saw someone calling "Don Muthusamy" a better movie than Dasavatharam. Just ignore those guys. Watch this if you want to come out of "traditional movie"


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:39 pm 
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Who ever is bashing - they didnt understand the movie.

This is a very complex story, told in a very simple manner.

Go, watch the movie, speak for yourselves.

I dont want to post few good things about this movie and create spoilers. For those who didnt understand this movie (unfortunately they are educated people, who think they are smarter and think too much out of it), please read

Chaos Theory
Butterfly Effect

If you have any questions (link between 12th century, current happenings, whats the relationship between all the characters etc), I can explain very well. I have spent so much time analyzing this movie and discussing with friends and fellow bloggers across the web and has very good idea and now that I know, I can say that no one can attempt this movie.

Kamal has taken Indian movies to a new dimension. Unfortunately we get such complex story once in a while in Tamil and Malayalam and we could take it, but Hindi movies are still running around trees and for normal hindi viewer, this is beyond what they can even dream to take, but even for them, they can just sit, enjoy the screenplay, comedy and songs and walk out.


But with all those SFX etc, Abhay was not a very GOOD FILM imho!

Music was better though even not the best.

BTW it sounds like GAJA GAMINI to me conceptual wise and I did understand that lol :lol: from where MF was com,ing from and did enjoy both MEENAXI and GAJA GAMINI as ART put on celulide with different MF HUSSAIN's perspective :D

BTW there are films doing well, that should not be called films in the first place any ways, BHOOTON KA NAATH, VARMA KA JUNK, MR B&W, ONE TWO THREE , LOUZY 4 etc etc etc......


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:25 pm 
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LOL

so u have to 'educated' to watch this 'film' as u would call it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:41 pm 
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thats nothing, down here its £40 a ticket :shock:


£40 for a cinema ticket ?! That's quite shocking :shock:

Is it on national release or just specialised cinemas?

Ali


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:47 pm 
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Zoran009 wrote:

BTW it sounds like GAJA GAMINI to me conceptual wise and I did understand that lol :lol: from where MF was com,ing from and did enjoy both MEENAXI and GAJA GAMINI as ART put on cellulite with different MF HUSSAIN's perspective :D

BTW there are films doing well, that should not be called films in the first place any ways, BHOOTON KA NAATH, VARMA KA JUNK, MR B&W, ONE TWO THREE , LOUZY 4 etc etc etc......


ART put on cellulite :shock: Madhuri and Tabu weren't that out of shape in these movies!!! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:06 pm 
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ali wrote:
sengh_15 wrote:
thats nothing, down here its £40 a ticket :shock:


£40 for a cinema ticket ?! That's quite shocking :shock:

Is it on national release or just specialised cinemas?

Ali


There have opended more prints then Sarkar Raj apprently. Some place are doing their prices around 10-15 pound but some of the busy places like more towards London, its more between 40-45 pounds


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:22 pm 
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This movie and more importantly kamal disappoints. My own ramblings are here

http://senthlpk.blogspot.com/2008/06/da ... oints.html

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Dasavatharam - Kamal disappoints

Let’s get this straight – Kamal Hassan is a national treasure and KS Ravikumar is a very bad director.

Indian movies for most parts merely serve as a vehicles for hero worship – from the days of Bhagavathar to “Dr Illyathalapathi”. every decade has its favorite “hero-pair” be it MGR/Sivaji, Rajini/Kamal, Ajit/Vijay and so on. Our directors (with a few exceptions) are either slaves to these heros or mere puppet in their hands.

Kamal is a rarity – he is both an actor (national award winning I might add) and a director (some obscure Korean award for virumandi?). Anyone even remotely doubting his penchant for making movies has probably been sleeping under a rock for the last forty year – simply put he is a living legend who makes mistakes. What is additionally interesting with kamal is that he is a “known” rationalist and spiritually inquisitive – look no further than Anbe sivam for what I mean. This particular aspect is what draws this writer to “kamal films” – Nayagan, Thevar Magan, Guna, Pushpak, Anbe Sivam all stand tall in repertoire.

Kamal , post Indian has developed a fixation with makeups – probably from his drama routes. This fixation has only helped soar his reputation as a great actor – be it the atrociously simple Indian or the sweet Avvai Shanmugi (my favorite ). Alas “this” kamal seems to have gone overboard with his fascination resulting in disastrous consequence – namely his over hyped magnum opus “Dasavatharam”.

Now to the movie – with all the hype surrounding the film, the initial scenes captivate and glue you to your seats. It moves you deeply, leaves you with Goosebumps and makes you impatient while asking for more. Alas for most viewers the movie will start and end here, what follows after is probably the most contrived storyline one would have ever hatched together.

Kamal’s canvas is simply too large and too thin to paint and whatever happen on it leaves nothing but a-mess-of-a-film that’s scarred beyond recognition by its own auteur. Perhaps the giant who calls himself kamal has either taken up a task too big for him or was reined in by the more earthly commercial gimmicks – romance, comedy, fight, drama and yeah 10 different makeups !

The story is “simple” – its fate trying to connect the dots between people. Every action is inter connected and has a consequences. More importantly these actions have a meaning that’s all carefully put together by the master himself a.k.a the almighty. The people, as you would guess is kamal in 10 different roles criss-crossing each other in the most cinematic fashion. If “this” is how god planed, then he surely must suck at it!

The details – a biological weapon is out of the super secret labs in the US and reaches shores of India, following the “viral-bomb” is kamal the scientist, his boss sends out “terminator” kamal to wipe him out and retrieve the box. Kamal is stopped by naidu (his best role following the priest). The box is addressed to patti kamal, so our hero reaches Chithambaram to retrieve blah blah blah……, yawn… yawn – you get it right ?

Now that the stupid story is out of the way – let’s look at why one should hate this movie

- Plot holes – there are so many that this exercises is best left as an exercise for kindergarten kids.

- Inconsistent script, screenplay and not to mention the piss-poor dialogs, what could have been powerfully moving, rib-tickingly funny, bitingly sarcastic only ends being irritatingly repetitive and idiotically unfunny except of course our naidu who along with the priest stand tall among all other insignificant characters.

- Hollywood influence – being clearly inspired by the “terminator” assassin, the butterfly effect, the crash/babel style screen play and day after tomorrow type tsunami only proves that the director has either seen these movie or own these dvds (thank god for these wonderful little invention!) . I still don’t understand how this tsunami special-effect was accepted – we simply don’t know how to create special effects , by even somalian standard it looks very amateurish.

- Makeup – as numerous others have complained online and elsewhere, we come to see kamal movies for his acting skills, the way he would flex his facial muscle to show off character nuances, not hide behind some ramsay brother horror show makeup. As they used to say “the make-up fails once the character vanishes and the actor emerges”. Alas the film’s greatest gimmick is also its failure !

- Overly symbolic - With characters named as Govind Ramaswamy, Andal, Chritian Fletcher etc. there were opportunities galore to leverage them but nothing happened along these lines – Andaal was good at being more stupid than taking care of lord, and our “periyar” was more confused than a dog on a highway.

- Tsunami – In an effort to showcase a point-of-view, the creators of this magum opus have leveraged tsunami to explain “intelligent design”. In order to save millions of victims a few 100 thousand need to be destroyed !!!! This accordingly to this reviewer is the single most obscene cinematic act that Indian cinema has ever experienced. No one and I repeat no one can justify what happened when nature unleashed her fury on unsuspecting, innocent people. Its heart breaking to notes these people were also socially and economically weak. Tsunami is the absolute truth – one cannot justify why it happened, trying to do that would only result in rubbing salt in “real” wound of victims. Along with india how does one explain over 100K death in Indonesia, 30K death is srilanka and over 200K missing in total !
Of course kamal does question the act but leaves it at that and starts romancing the very next minute while the backdrop is filled with people either dead or dying or crying for their dead. This cinematic time-splice experiment is so disgusting and so forced this viewer felt like throwing his slipper at the screen.

Fate, chance, religion, actions, consequences are too big of a topic to wrestle with – it’s best left with people who can handle it. As much as I complain about running-around-trees-signing-songs-type-films, I would prefer that over this half-baked insulting piece of trash cinema.


So let me repeat Kamal is a national treasure – his movies are looked up on as quintessential good Indian movies, but his latest outing is a travesty is film making. In an effort to create a record of some sorts kamal et. al. merely resemble the fellow who stopped cutting his finger nails to enter the Guinness book – yes it’s a world record but pretty disgusting to look at!

Kamal fans (unlike others) are of two types – one who like him as a brilliant actor and the other who worship him for his persona. I am the former, for me Kamal is our Robert De Niro – numerous times have I seen his films and enjoyed them but alas in Dasvatharam Kamal the persona takes over and when all chaos ends only his mountain size ego remains.


The only Tamil movie i enjoyed this year is Anjathey - that one inspite of its faults is a gem, this one is a colossal failure imo.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:06 pm 
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Other side of REDIFF coin( black side ) as ever:

Kamal Haasan disappoints

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There are two actors in India whose films I find very difficult to judge objectively; they are Kamal Haasan [Images] and Mohanlal. Despite my very conscious efforts to find loopholes in their films, I end up enjoying the fine nuances of their superior performances laying aside my critical microscope.

Like Mohanlal has been letting me down of late with his inane films and indifferent and bored acting, Kamal Haasan has also been disappointing me with his predictable and repetitive expressions and actions. But no film of his has disappointed me as much as Dasavathaaram did. Not even Mumbai Express.

Also Read: Showcasing Dasavathaaram

In fact, it is very easy to dislike the film and get dissatisfied with the much hyped ten performances.

But first, let me talk about the 11th role that Kamal Haasan has performed; that of the script writer, which he has failed miserably. Perhaps the idea was to write a script akin to Babel [Images] or Crash where the story bounced from one place to another with the basic thread connecting all of them remaining intact. But in Dasavathaaram [Images], there is no solid story and there is nothing to connect the various characters that popped up with plaster of paris pasted on their faces.

The biggest failure of Dasavathaaram is the lack of a proper story, a tight screenplay and well connected characters. One gets the feeling that because Kamal Haasan wanted to make history by portraying ten different characters, he created them. Otherwise, one cannot think of any justification in him appearing all sorts of get-ups.

Yes, the film starts amazingly well; the 12th century sets, Kamal Haasan as the temple priest and above all Ravi Varman's stunning cinematography raise your expectation levels. As the film progresses, you tend to feel trifle let down and by the time the film ends, the only feeling you have left is that of disappointment.

Of the much hyped ten avatars of Kamal Haasan, except for two -- Rangaraja Nambi, the 12th century priest and the investigative officer Balram Naidu -- the rest looked as if they were participating in a school fancy dress competition. You go to a Kamal Haasan movie to watch his subtle performance but in this one, in his over eagerness to disguise himself, he has denied the viewers a chance to view his face and the expressions. The thick layers of opaque make-up on his face hid all the expressions. The eyes were so sunken below the mask that you could not see any feeling in them.

Okay, had it been a fancy dress competition, Kamal Haasan as George Bush [Images] and the Punjabi pop singer would have won consolation prizes, but definitely not any prize for Christian Fletcher, who looked more like a mannequin than a menacing villain. The Japanese martial arts expert was more wooden than human, the tall Afghan, Kalifulla Khan was pathetically synthetic and the worst was the 100 year old paatti. She would be disqualified for the most atrocious make up.

One nostalgically thought of the four different characters Kamal had done exceedingly well in Michael Madana Kama Rajan; mind you, without the aid of any mask. But what a performance it was, especially the Palghat Brhamin! True, he was aided by an excellent script.

Now, to the much talked about tsunami scenes. Agreed, Brian Jennings and his team worked hard to recreate the fury of the sea. Were they successful in their efforts? I don't think so. Those who have seen the ferocious tsunami and its aftermath will shudder at the casualness with which the disaster has been picturised. The scenes which are supposed to shock you do not even touch you mildly.

No other actor in India can be as good a lover on screen as Kamal Haasan. His films have been loved for the electrifying chemistry he exhibits with his leading ladies whether it was with Srividya in Apoorva Raagangal or Sridevi [Images] in Moondram Pirai or Madhavi in Raja Parvai or Amala in Pushpak, but for the first time, you see him so detached from his leading lady. There is absolutely no chemistry between the leading pair; in fact, he also looked far too old to be paired with a much younger Asin.

Lastly, what was the filmmaker trying to achieve by throwing a gem like this; that the 'bullet flew away with the cancer from the pop singer's throat? A dig at the 'superstar', perhaps?

In Dasavathaaram, I did not see the Kamal Haasan who moved me to tears like he did in Mahanadi, who made me laugh uncontrollably in Pushpak or Michael Madana Kama Rajan, or stumped me like he did in Nayagan or bowled me over with his intellectual innocence as he did in Sagara Sangamam.

To tide over the disappointment of watching Dasavatharam, I am going to watch again the DVDs of timeless classics like Nayagan, Moodram Pirai, Sagara Sangamam, Michael Madana Kama Rajan and Pushpak. Let me see the Kamal Haasan I missed in Dasavathaaram.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:18 pm 
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Kamal Tussauds

Some of the get up's worn by Mr Kamal Haasan, should be given to London's Madame Tussaud's and that's only because of a simple reason - The people in London love to laugh out loud!

I don't know whether Haasan was trying to save a bit of money on the casting department or simply he was trying to show that one actor can do every role in their respective film's. I go with the last one, as he is not the producer of this film. Then again, why hasn't he played the role's of the female lead's, just to show his fan's that he can do everything and anything - I mean we don't get to see one romancing himself these days and maybe Mr Haasan should take that into consideration for his next film. If only the maker's of this film, understood a simple fact of film making - put on as many get up's as you wish but without a stronghold story, any film from any film industry, will fall flat!

On the name of entertainment you can get away without a stronghold story but usually that happen's with slapstick film's and this film, become's a slapstick film, where you'll either laugh or fall asleep.

The film kicks off with the film going back to some 12th Century where an angry Mr Haasan is rebelling against some king, for the reason, that he doesn't want to see a Vishnu statue being thrown down an Ocean. A fight scene break's out with Haasan showing us a little bit of Taekwondo in the 12th Century! The king torture's him, with his wife(Asin) looking on. The statue goes down the ocean along with Mr Haasan tied to it. Modern day, he's a scientist making a chemical weapon, an accident occur's and Mr Haasan believes that this particular invention is very destructive. Errrrr....... The whole point of a chemical weapon in to be destructive. Some bad guy's want the weapon, Mr Haasan get's to know that and then begin's a film of a cat and mouse chase along with Mr Haasan's wax model's such as a Sardar popstar who keep's vomitting blood, a loony interrogation officer, some tv director, a senior citizen female, an Afghan speaking Tamil, an ex CIA officer whose a White guy, a Chinese kickboxer and the best one AS GEORGE BUSH!

The ending is so nonsense, where the story that was happening suddenly takes a turn when the Tsunami hit's South India and there was me thinking I'm sitting through a cat and mouse thriller!

Now with a silly story like this, the one good thing about the Tamil film industry, is that they'll redeem it by some catchy tunes, two or three hillarious comic scenes yet this film is just about wax works as both those department's are sheer Bull! acting wise is just ok because I don't think get up's are acting and nor do I believe that mister Haasan is acting anywhere near his capabilities. That Asin girl is talented from the two or three film's I've seen of her's but here she is sleep walking with a statue of God and moaning throughout like it's the time of the month. Mallika Sherawat, LOL.

Background music nonsense, visual's are Crap, editing is haywire, special effect's Suck, it's too long, it bore's you out of your brain's. I don't think there's anything to like in this nonsense. Oh yes there is....

Kamal's get up as the ex-CIA White officer is so funny. The get up look's like one of them drag-queen's walking around Times Square and although his George Bush waxwork is much more hillarious, the funny part come's at the end - where Kamal Haasan aka George Bush start's speaking in Tamil!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHA TOP STUFF!

This film is extreme nonsense and the next time I want something South Indian, I'll go for a Masala Dosa, thank you very much - LOL

0.5 out of 5


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:26 am 
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Watched 3 times, going again tomorrow. The graphics/vfx issues are there in Tsunami scene, but dont know how many people understand, but the VFX start from first scene to the end almost every where. They have done a wonderful job in VFX.

In a way, the -ve feedback is good for Kamal since his movies with good critic feedbacks failed at box office. So this is good for box office.

I will come back in a year from now to celebrate his next national award for this movie.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:28 am 
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dvdisoil, you might want to tune on Madan's thiraiparvai coverage. Dont know when they are telecasting, but Madan has a discussion going on in AVM studio on 28th.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:27 pm 
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bgee wrote:
Watched 3 times, going again tomorrow. The graphics/vfx issues are there in Tsunami scene, but dont know how many people understand, but the VFX start from first scene to the end almost every where. They have done a wonderful job in VFX.

In a way, the -ve feedback is good for Kamal since his movies with good critic feedbacks failed at box office. So this is good for box office.

I will come back in a year from now to celebrate his next national award for this movie.



So u are loving this film for the VFX? :?

I dont see any postive review from yet

Wat makes u think its gunna go to the awards?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:15 pm 
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sorry, dont want to waste my time on this. i will leave it up to you to watch/discard.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:49 am 
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bgee - i understand your passion but this one is plain wrong imo.

However recently i did come across the following article that was written well in "support" of the film. Here you go

http://passionforcinema.com/dasavathaar ... os-theory/

Enjoy :)


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