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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:29 pm 
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Readon for a fairly funny interview ....

http://www.indiafm.com/features/2007/01 ... index.html


"Wine and women are God's greatest creations" – Ram Gopal Varma
By Khalid Mohamed (HT Café), January 12, 2007 - 03:28 IST

We gab about his Sholay, which is all quite stimulating, but then you’ve heard it all before in a million magz. I steer him towards his other film Nishabd – which he swears on my head (see, he doesn’t want me to live long) isn’t a lift from Lolita. You know that Nabokov classic in which an ageing Humbert flipped out over a seductress of a nymphet.

Bring Nishabd up and the Kathakali eyes of the 40-very-something filmmaker dance wildly. His words waltz, “I’ve got a feeling that you’ll be surprised… It’s your kind of a movie.” Eeesh, and all these years, I’ve been trying to figure out this conundrum. Forget it, at this very instant I want to know

Your Nishabd is about a girl and a very much older man. Isn’t this true of you and your relationships in real life, my friend?
Arre, please let me remain young…as long as girls don’t realize this, what’s your problem? Please let me have fun.

Wish granted…go on.
Listen, bodies may age but love doesn’t. Whether a woman is attracted to a man or the other way around, neither love nor sex has logic. A young guy can be incredibly lousy in bed, an old guy can be incredibly terrific. Last year, I’d read that Amitji (Amitabh Bachchan) had been voted as India’s sexiest man. And that’s because of his presence, his over all persona.

How do women reach to you?
They get bored of me after a while. They tell me I speak too many intellectual things. Still, I think they’re happy that I can con them with my words.

Are you ‘intellectual’ Ramu?
I’m very intellectual but I don’t apply this to practical purposes, not to the desired extent at least.

That’s a head-banger. You’re a man who loves women, right?
Wine and women are the greatest things created by God. And wealth is one of the means to get them.

(Embarrassed) I don’t like the sound of that. It suggests that you have to buy love.
Money is not about buying. It’s about having a certain position, confidence, energy and mechanism.

Have you ever told anyone, “I love you”?
I said that to a woman till she went away.

Urmila Matondkar?
No names, please.

How many woman have you loved?
Oh so many, from the time I was in college – the girl sitting in the third row, the girl buying a Coke at a cinema counter, a construction labourer, Sridevi, a junior artiste when I was shooting a Telugu film with Chiranjeevi. Stop, what kind of interview is this?

Come on, don’t stop.
(Waiters rematerialize with vodka refills) Women are works of art as long as they don’t speak.

How chauvinistic is that?
I’m being honest. I see them as ‘freeze’ images. The problem is that I want to edit women, I see them as uncut rushes. I get caught among the bad and good rushes. (Suddenly) I live in a fantasy world.

So when you were shooting say Jiah Khan for Nishabd, did you fall in love with her?
No. At times, it’s like creating a beautiful composition way you would get a photo-shoot done for a magazine. I became a director to look at beautiful women, beautiful images.

I don’t understand where intellect comes into all this?
(Silence, crunch of peanuts)

Ramu, how do you remember Antara Mali?
You! She’s one of the finest actors I’ve worked with. She is more intelligent than I can ever be.

What’s up between you and your newish heroine Nisha Kothari?
(Laughs) Let’s say we’re good friends.

It seems Ajay Devgan didn’t exactly approve of her being cast as Basanti in your Sholay?
From the time I approached Ajay for Company till today, there’s been problem between Ajay and me.

Can you deny the reports that you have been spotted dining cosily with Nisha Kothari at the restaurant Urban Tadka?
I’m bound to be seen with my heroines. You got an issue with that?

Nope. Now tell me how do you best like to see women?
In bed…in poses composed, photographed and edited by me.

What’s your idea of pornography?
A woman in bed...full stop. The rest can be left to the imagination.

Ramu, will you talk to me after this interview is published?
Shut up. You know neither of us has a choice…now what did those waiters put in our vodkas?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:01 pm 
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that explains, ramu off the track, long time now :(


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"Come on, don’t stop.
(Waiters rematerialize with vodka refills) Women are works of art as long as they don’t speak.

How chauvinistic is that?
I’m being honest. I see them as ‘freeze’ images. The problem is that I want to edit women, I see them as uncut rushes. I get caught among the bad and good rushes. (Suddenly) I live in a fantasy world."

I think I understand what Varma's getting at here, but, personally, I find it artsy-fartsy bull-shit, still tainted with sexism. I've read a couple of times before that Varma doesn't like "his women" "to talk," albeit in fashion. I admit that it isn't so bad as it looks to be in an out-of-context quotation, but, even in context, it's a pretty supercilious, male-centric perspective.

"It seems Ajay Devgan didn’t exactly approve of her being cast as Basanti in your Sholay?
From the time I approached Ajay for Company till today, there’s been problem between Ajay and me."

I wonder if this is more serious or tongue-in-cheek. If it's the former, "ha-ha"; if the latter, why would Varma choose to work with Devgan again? Maybe no other actor would take the part... :lol: .


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:14 pm 
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I don’t understand where intellect comes into all this?
(Silence, crunch of peanuts)


:rofl: that one just cracked me up, I can just imagine RGV sitting there with gormless face thinking about that one. :rofl:

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ali bhai, have a few to drink. you too will need a break :P

commando, re: Ajay, as I translate it is that he is insinuating that they've always had artistic differences, but not enough to not work together.

You guys really want to tear this guy apart.

If this interview is real, I can' sooo respect him for it.

and come on, which guy here doesn't ever wish the women in their lives would keep their traps shut? :lol:


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Yuvan wrote:
commando, re: Ajay, as I translate it is that he is insinuating that they've always had artistic differences, but not enough to not work together.

You guys really want to tear this guy apart.

If this interview is real, I can' sooo respect him for it.

and come on, which guy here doesn't ever wish the women in their lives would keep their traps shut? :lol:


I don't want to "tear him apart." Perhaps not to the extent that you do, but I, too, like a decent bit of the work Ram Gopal Varma has done. If his responses in this interview are totally sincere, and not at all tongue-in-cheek, then I have more contempt than respect for him. I get that you're kidding about shutting women's "traps," but, if we try to be serious, of course I'm not fond of sexism... :lol: .


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Commando303 wrote:
I get that you're kidding about shutting women's "traps," but, if we try to be serious, of course I'm not fond of sexism... :lol: .


I'm not sure if I'm serious or not. Frankly, I'd like everyone to shut their traps regardless of sex/background :D

but yeah, I'm not fond of FEMINISM (which is basically reverse discrimination against men) either. I like the fight for women's rights, equality etc.., but feminism isn't about women's rights or equality, rather a hatred for men.


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Yuvan wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm serious or not. Frankly, I'd like everyone to shut their traps regardless of sex/background :D

but yeah, I'm not fond of FEMINISM (which is basically reverse discrimination against men) either. I like the fight for women's rights, equality etc.., but feminism isn't about women's rights or equality, rather a hatred for men.


As long as it's "everyone," it's a statement and a sentiment I can most certainly support.

"Feminism" means different things; and has meant different things at different times, and in different parts of the world. Generally, I accept "feminism" as the word referring to the basic movement to secure for women the same social rights as fought for for men — in that regard, it's one I wholly favor. I don't favor what you've termed "reverse discrimination against men," and actually perhaps too frequently find myself getting pissed by the abundance of said phenomenon in most modern "sitcoms." It was great in mid-1950s America, as Alice bemoaned her fat, child-like, ultimately likeable husband, Ralph Kramden, but, the "formula" seems to have moved way past what it was in The Honeymooners, and now too commonly just has an utterly mean, psychopathic wife upbraiding and demeaning her doting husband week after week, channel by channel. ... :x

Anyway, feminism is most certainly not one big vile thing that should be termed "hatred for men." No movement has ever been "one thing" (even "general goals" have varied from person to person, group to group), and, even to-day, it's absurd to label whatever wave of feminism is going on currently (third, probably), "simple man-hating" (I'm not quoting you). Movements are different things to different people, and, at best, I'd say that the misandristic aspects that plague some branches of feminism ought to be scorned; not the entire movement disowned.


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