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Inspired by 1960s hit Bahu Beti, Baabul is a non-starter.
The Ravi Chopra movie does not come anywhere near his earlier hit Baghban, and is Salman Khan's second flop this year after Jaan-E-Mann.

Note: Films are ranked according to their release dates.









Baabul

Cast: Amitabh Bachchan, Salman Khan, Rani Mukerji, John Abraham, Hema Malini.
Director: Ravi Chopra.
Great bond between Amitabh and Salman.

Too slow, often over-emotional.

Number of weeks: New.
BO Verdict: Poor opening.
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Dhoom 2

Cast: Hrithik Roshan, Aishwarya Rai, Bipasha Basu, Uday Chopra, Abhishek Bachchan.
Director: Sanjay Gadhvi.
Hrithik is amazing, great look, thrills.

Silly, senseless plot.

Number of weeks: 2.
BO Verdict: Superhit.
Review 1 | Review 2







Vivah

Cast: Shahid Kapur, Amrita Rao.
Director: Sooraj Barjatya.
Sweet story.

Outdated film.

Number of weeks: 4.
BO Verdict: Hit.
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Deadline: Sirf 24 Ghante

Cast: Konkona Sensharma, Irrfan, Rajat Kapoor, Sandhya Mridul and Zakir Hussain
Director: Tanveer Khan.
Some good thrilling moments.

Poor sound and background music, poor direction.

Number of weeks: 4.
BO Verdict: Flop.
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Apna Sapna Money Money

Cast: Ritesh Deshmukh, Shreyas Talpade, Celina Jaitley, Koena Mitra, Riya Sen.
Director: Sangeeth Sivan.
Ritesh Deshmukh.

Run-of-the-mill sex comedy.

Number of weeks: 4.
BO Verdict: Flop.
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Umrao Jaan

Cast: Aishwarya Rai, Abhishek Bachchan, Shabani Azmi.
Director: J P Dutta.
Ash looks stunning, beautiful sets.

Too long and melodramatic.

Number of weeks: 5.
BO Verdict: Flop.
Review 1 | Review 2







Don

Cast: Shah Rukh Khan, Priyanka Chopra, Kareena Kapoor, Isha Koppiker, Arjun Rampal, Boman Irani.
Director: Farhan Akhtar.
Great performances, good music.

Cannot match the original Don, starring Amitabh Bachchan.

Number of weeks: 7.
BO Verdict: Semi-hit.
Review 1 | Review 2







Jaan-E-Mann

Cast: Salman Khan, Akshay Kumar, Preity Zinta.
Director: Shirish Kunder.
Good performances, and good direction.

Done-to-death love triangle.

Number of weeks: 7.
BO Verdict: Below average.
Review 1 | Review 2







Zindaggi Rocks

Cast: Sushmita Sen, Shiney Ahuja.
Director: Tanuja Chandra.
Good performances.

Bad script, Moushmi Chatterjee.

Number of weeks: 10.
BO Verdict: Flop.
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Woh Lamhe

Cast: Shiney Ahuja, Kangana Ranaut.
Director: Mohit Suri.
A great performance from Kangana.

Second half tends to drag.

Number of weeks: 11.
BO Verdict: Doing well in multiplexes.
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i bet overseas will be a hit
when i went to the imax to see it it was also playing on 2 regular screens so was d2, at silvercity, as soon as they said that the regular screens are also sold out ( all 3 shows left for baabul that day were) then eveyone started buying d2 tickets which also got a sold out show


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I'm glad it flopped, but expected it to be a hit. Mr Bachchan annoyed the hell out of me last week when he was on TV giving an interview. He started to annoy me since last year when he gave an interview where he said bollywood was a derogatory term and we should call their industry "Indian cinema", just so it gets the same respect with other world cinema and can compete, because their films best represents India and is "unique" and "original" full of bright ideas! This was just around the time he was starring in the 'Man on Fire' rip-off "Ek Ajnabee", the same year he did 'the miracle worker' rip-off "Black" and not to forget the weak 'Godfather' adaptation "Sarkar". :roll:

Anyway however bad Baabul may be it must still be better than KANK. It will be a hit in UK, because Indian families over here are so sad it's tragic. They will make any crappy film a runaway hit! :evil:


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arsh wrote:


BTW, thanks to the link that I was able to see Rediff Box Office #s.
Otherwise, I had thought that Rediff stopped providing Box Office Reports. My routine was going to Rediff movies page
http://in.rediff.com/movies/index.html
Then try to find Box Office and only link I ever found was "Film Business"
Hit that and Box Office #s are a few months old (Oct 3rd #s)
http://in.rediff.com/movies/box.html

Now how do you get to Box Office report page, beats me.
Great Web Page Design, I guess.


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I'm glad it flopped, but expected it to be a hit. Mr Bachchan annoyed the hell out of me last week when he was on TV giving an interview. He started to annoy me since last year when he gave an interview where he said bollywood was a derogatory term and we should call their industry "Indian cinema", just so it gets the same respect with other world cinema and can compete, because their films best represents India and is "unique" and "original" full of bright ideas! This was just around the time he was starring in the 'Man on Fire' rip-off "Ek Ajnabee", the same year he did 'the miracle worker' rip-off "Black" and not to forget the weak 'Godfather' adaptation "Sarkar". :roll:

Anyway however bad Baabul may be it must still be better than KANK. It will be a hit in UK, because Indian families over here are so sad it's tragic. They will make any crappy film a runaway hit! :evil:


Amitabh Bachchan has long scolded the use of the term "Bollywood," as have I (no connection: I hated the word before I ever knew that Bachchan shared the sentiment). I find it a horrible message to send when you refer to your industry as the alteration of America's cinema; what does it say, really? I feel it robs Indian films of their own identity, and grants all kudos to the U.S. I understand that it's a lost battle at this point, but I still prefer to write "Hindi-film industry," or "Indian film industry," to "Bollywood," whenever possible. It's more typing, but I don't think we need to write (and say) "Bollywood" just for the sake of economy.

I haven't yet seen Baabul, but hope to catch a showing to-morrow or the day after. Fingers: crossed, hoping it's superior to the hyper-two-dimensional (yet watchable for Bachchan, Hema-Bachchan, and the songs) Baghban of 2003.


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Somewhat like Ravi Chopra's Baghban, Baabul is a film that has garnered mixed reactions from me. I'll admit, first, that, with Baghban, my expectations were very high. The promotions looked great, the cast was über-promising, the songs rung inspired, and the "B.R. Chopra" name implied something grand. In the case of Baabul, there was less publicity, I didn't care much for the songs (from what I had seen in commercials), and Ravi Chopra's name was already reasonably tarnished by the ultra-clichéd, hyper-contrived Baghban. Nevertheless, Baabul (again, like Baghban) has its share of great moments, and, in the end, is probably worth the price of admission.

I promise that this will be the last (or close to it) time that I type this (it's not that it won't apply further, but just that I'm getting sick, myself, of writing it), but, like Baghban, the success of Baabul lies largely (read, largely) with Amitabh Bachchan. Bachchan — indubitable — is one of the most talented actors in the Indian film industry (or, for that matter, in the world). Given an uninspired, trite part, he can work such wonders that the audience genuinely enjoys his work. In a film that actually grants him something with which to toy, Amitabh Bachchan is unstoppable. As the concerned, thoroughly loving "Baabul," Bachchan is pitch-perfect. During the first half of the movie, he walks breezily through his part, having little to do but enjoy himself and impart a very few delicate words of wisdom. He's done the "cool dad" bit some times before, now, and it's good to see that the act hasn't gone stale. Post-intermission, the mirth and merriment are gone, and an earnest, mature, grieving-yet-burdened-by-the-tears-of-his-daughter-in-law Amitabh shows up, and he's just awesome to watch. His performance at the film's climax is the sort of thing that Amitabh-Bachchan fans wait to see, and, after his work in some scenes of Khakee, we get to see the man really go all out with his histrionics. The perfect combination of strength-of-will and respect-for-family lead to a performance that's as authentic and as enthralling as any director could hope to get from his actor.

Rani Mukherjee, though she'll probably never again land a part that exercises her thespianic muscles as did her role in Black, is a notch above great in Baabul. After her critically-acclaimed-yet-to-me-unimpressive work in this year's over-blown, over-appreciated Karan-Johar flick, Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna, Rani again gets a part that's identifiable, human, and, simply put, "good." In Baabul, Mukherjee gets to be sweet, intelligent, charming, and sad, and she goes through each characteristic with conviction and élan. Yes, I gripe that I'm fucking sick of the artifically-induced tears that every director seems to be bent on having stream interminably down his actress's face from the point at which that crucial "bad thing" in her life happens, to that at which the film's credits roll, but, truthfully, this isn't Mukherjee's fault, and so she ought not to be faulted for her excessive, inappropriate, generally-annoying volume of tears.

Salman Khan — who I think I've loathed and lambasted ever since he chose to trade in his personality for his pecs, and decided that "acting" was something that was meant to take a back-seat to "star-presencing it up" — is actually very good in Ravi Chopra's film. As he did in Baghban, Salman Khan seems to put his best foot forward when working alongside Amitabh Bachchan. Perhaps it doesn't make sense to try to steal stardom from the man who's had a claim to the word since about four years after he first hit the world of acting, but, for whatever reason, when he's by Bachchan, Khan keeps his shirt on, and he does what I thought he'd taken an oath never again to do: he acts. His is the part of the "light-hearted lover-boy," and, though pushing at the upper-limits of the age at which doing this sort of role still evokes sympathy instead of vomit, Khan manages to make the part right for himself. He shares a pleasant on-screen chemistry with both Bachchan and Mukherjee, and, for the first time in a while, doesn't leave me sighing, "if only someone else has landed the role, this film could, perhaps, be watchable."

Unfortunately, the three aforementioned actors are the only ones in Baabul who are truly comendable. Hema Malini, in my opinion, has always been just a "good" actress (I only ever "loved" her in Ramesh Sippy's impeccable classic, Sholay), and, in Baabul, she's not even that. She's not "bad" so much as she's just "not good." In all honesty, it's a small part, and there's not much for her to do within its confines, but, even when Malini finally does get a few lines, it feels as though she delivers them half-assedly, if for no other reason, then simply to spite Chopra for not giving her more screen-time. John Abraham ostensibly teeters always between "good" and "bad" when it comes to his performances, and, in Baabul, he meanders betwixt the arenas of "bad" and "acceptable." Post-interval, he has ample time on screen to make his presence felt, yet — albeit working with the most hackneyed, unimpressive lines that have been being tirelessly penned for at least the last two decades — Abraham never really seems to do more than fill a necessary role. He's there, but his heart appears not to be, and a more enthusiastic portrayal might have elicited more sympathy, and less base tolerance, for what should have been a very important character. Om Puri is a magnificent actor, and thus there's no point in berating his abilities. We've seen him clash with Bachchan before (in Dev), and, in as much, we've witnessed him match the "angry man" blow-for-blow. This, however, isn't Dev, and Puri's role in Baabul is so poorly-written, so obligatorily-conjured, that justice simply can't be done to it. As the elder brother, Puri has, not little, but nothing, to do but snarl between bouts of uncalled-for shouting. I understand that his is the character to be "overcome," to be bested by "progressive thinking" and "humanistic values," but, challenging old ideals doesn't have to (and shouldn't) go hand-in-hand with debasing those characters who are meant to represent them. Maligning a particular stand on an issue by voicing it through two-dimensional, unappealing characters is not something a "successful" film does, but is, instead, the act of a desperate, unable-to-pull-any-other-trick-out-of-its-hairy-asshole movie. My biggest problem with Ravi Chopra — having seen Baghban and Baabul — is that he actually doesn't "tackle" salient social issues. You "tackle" an issue by representing it accurately, with real, well-imagined, convincing characters; not by having a well-spoken, impassioned, right-from-the-start protagonist easily best an Ernst-Stavro-Blofeldesque caricature of the opposing view. The "kids" in Baghban were nothing but space-filling, nauseous cretins who spoke as though from the dumbest soap opera ever fathomed, and the "bad family members" in Baabul aren't much better. To the credit of the latter film, there are fewer situations this time around that make you cringe, fewer moments of bull-shit line after bull-shit line; and so there's less time spent waiting for the inescapable eventual cessation of such scenes. The only real "conflict" (i.e., "obstacle," beyond the grieving widow [who I feel, too, grieves for just a bit too long, and in a few too many moments]) presents itself during the picture's penultimate moments, and is resolved in just as much space. A quick exchange of words, and it's happily ever after. The tears and sorrow are drawn out to fill nearly half the film, yet the strife between ideals (which, I believed, was supposed to be the main "point" of this whole movie) is introduced and ameliorated in all but about ten minutes. That's... not cool.

Just to mention the songs, only one shines. Baghban had a sublime soundtrack, but no one number was "song of the year." Baabul, on the other hand, has a good soundtrack, and it houses what I'd consider Amitabh Bachchan's best song since Silsila's, "Rang Barse." "Kehta Hai Baabul," which Bachchan both penned the lyrics to and composed the music of, as sung by Jagjit Singh, is just another "good piece." The version crooned by Bachchan, however, is easily one of the most impressive sound recordings of 2006. Of course, there's no point in comparing a song such as this to Dhoom 2's "Crazy Kiya," but, as far as slow, somber works go, Amitabh's "Kehta Hai Baabul" is out of this world. It's especially effective, in my opinion, for the film to have ended on it, as it at least leaves a positive impression of the movie as you walk down the aisle to leave the hall.

Overall, Baabul is a good movie with a message that, in fact, is still quite relevant, still important, in to-day's "modern" world. Ideas regarding women and marriage haven't changed so much as people might like to think, and a movie such as Baabul serves to remind that the issue must be addressed. The picture's exection, sadly, is almost as heavy-handed and one-sided as that of Baghban, and thus it is a film that feels amateurish. What could have been a great study of human emotion and societal burden and expectation, inevitably (well, not really, as Chopra could certainly have taken a different path) turns into the boxing-match from Rocky IV: There's no struggle, no empathy for the "villain," no sense of humanity — really, nothing at all; it's just a one-two from the politically "just," and the enemy is down and the crowd rejoices. If Ravi Chopra is, indeed, learning from his mistakes, then his third "family drama" with Bachchan (it'll probably happen) is likely to be a cut above this type of sophomoric film-making mentality. Nevertheless, I hope that it'll not be another twenty years before we finally see from Chopra what we should have been seeing from him all along: A well-written, well-executed venture, that's brace enough to give us believable potrayals of both sides of the argument, and confident enough in its abilities to convey to us which angle it supports.


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Commando303 wrote:
Amitabh Bachchan has long scolded the use of the term "Bollywood," as have I (no connection: I hated the word before I ever knew that Bachchan shared the sentiment). I find it a horrible message to send when you refer to your industry as the alteration of America's cinema; what does it say, really? I feel it robs Indian films of their own identity, and grants all kudos to the U.S.


I hated the word too, but now realise that it is the perfect word to describe the Hindi-film industry (or at least some of the rip-off films that come out of it). The reason I say this is that Bollywood DOES copy Hollywood not just the storylines but even some of the characters are based on hollywood. E.g. Kareena's Poo character from K3G and her 2 friends is a bad rip-off of the "Clueless" girls. I don't think Indian college kids are really as fake and as 'Americanised' as they are represented in Bollywood. They certainly don't come across as so dumb when I see them on the Indian channels.
I understand that some films are unique to India like Baghban and these films do not deserve to be called Bollywood. Sanjay Gupta, the Bhatts and Sanjay Leela Bhansali all deserve to be degraded as "Bollywood" directors.
Mr Bachchan should think twice about what he says when he himself willingly acts in these mediocre unofficial remakes of Hollywood films.


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Well, first of all, Kabhie Khushi Kabhie Gham's "Poo" does not attend an Indian college; she's in England, and should act as English-college students do. Second, the character's portrayal is more comical satire than anything else: The "Clueless" girls don't represent American college students, and "Poo" is meant to be no more realistic than they. I don't really mind Indian characters acting "Western," either, when it's believable. I agree that I'm sick of seeing what are supposed to be "common people" in Indian cities softening their "r"s and dipthoning their vowels — all in their "Gap" jeans and "Aeropostal" tops — only because similar things happen in American films. Nonetheless, it's not unrealistic to show Indians living their lives as affected by global and Western culture; in fact, that is reality.

I, too, abhor films like Ek Ajnabee, Hum Kaun Hai?, and Bhoot (though the last to a lesser extent). I wish more financially-significant Indian films opted to out-and-out steal less from successful Western movies. For an industry that seems keen to finally appeal to the world-wide market, I hardly think it's a good idea to represent itself as a confused, unoriginal child who can do little but poorly imitate big, bad America.

Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Black strikes me more as an adaptation of The Miracle Worker than a as a "rip-off." The movie has its own identity and is well-made and well-acted, and shouldn't really be ranked alongside Sanjay Gupta's lazily-compiled re-hashes of Western cinema.

No matter the plagiarism present in some Indian films (and let's not fool ourselves into thinking that India is alone in this copy-cat behavior), I can't defend proudly referring to one's own industry with a mutated word used to cite another. Unless it's done for a comical reason, ripping off the title of a famous institution just doesn't sit well with me.


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Indian films confuse American High Schools with college. Movies like 'Clueless' & 'Return to Riverdale' are set around American schools and not college. There is a marked difference between High School and College and I don't recall ever watching a Hollywood film that was set in a college where the characters were shown to be such juvenilles as in 'Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham' & 'Kuch Kuch Hota Hai'. Actually Karan Johar is not alone in this but rather almost all Indian films incorrectly set their characters in colleges while actually potraying high schools. Even an otherwise good film like 'Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander' makes the same mistake of referring to the schools as colleges and a more recent example is that of 'Main Hoon Na'. I think the reason for this is intentional so as to somewhat justify the ages of Indian stars. After all it would be kinda hard for Shah Rukh to justify going back to High School.


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Sanjay wrote:
Actually Karan Johar is not alone in this but rather almost all Indian films incorrectly set their characters in colleges while actually potraying high schools.


I wondered about this, since I have no idea what college is like in India. MHN struck me as more like (the cliches of) an American high school than of college life. Is this how college is in India? :?


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Sanjay wrote:
Actually Karan Johar is not alone in this but rather almost all Indian films incorrectly set their characters in colleges while actually potraying high schools.


I wondered about this, since I have no idea what college is like in India. MHN struck me as more like (the cliches of) an American high school than of college life. Is this how college is in India? :?


How abt RDB where there was KHALBALI only no college, no classes, no class rooms, no teachers :roll:


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Well, first of all, Kabhie Khushi Kabhie Gham's "Poo" does not attend an Indian college; she's in England, and should act as English-college students do. Second, the character's portrayal is more comical satire than anything else.


Sorry to disappoint you but no English students of Indian decent or otherwise act as rediculous as Kareena did in K3G. She was embarrassing to say the least. I should know, I live in UK and had all my education here. If that's the case Indians have a very warped image of Indians abroad or maybe it's just Karan Johar. Also no Indian girl by the name of Pooja would like to be called "Poo" in the UK, in case you didn't know Poo means sh!t over here. I remember when K3G came out a girl in my area was jokingly called poo for a while...she didn't like it one bit.

As for Poo's friends in K3G, I didn't find them comical, I found them stupid. Some people in the audience did find them comical - they were 10-year old girls.

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I, too, abhor films like Ek Ajnabee, Hum Kaun Hai?, and Bhoot (though the last to a lesser extent). I wish more financially-significant Indian films opted to out-and-out steal less from successful Western movies. For an industry that seems keen to finally appeal to the world-wide market, I hardly think it's a good idea to represent itself as a confused, unoriginal child who can do little but poorly imitate big, bad America.


I agree, but they shouldn't steal at all. Is India so boring that they can't produce great films or are the directors lazy or less talented? What's more tragic is when they promote themselves as the world largest movie industry, almost as old as Hollywood, that churn out the most number of films each year. Who cares if the films are so mediocre? With the so many years of experience they have in filmmaking, more than most other countries, they should be producing excellent films that clean up at the oscars every few years. They should've been a well known industry by now, not just trying to break into the world market.

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No matter the plagiarism present in some Indian films (and let's not fool ourselves into thinking that India is alone in this copy-cat behavior)


But it is what the "bollywood" film industry is well known for. I remember a co-worker thought that ALL bollywood films were copies of hollywood films, that's why they have been termed so. It didn't help as the only Indian films he'd seen were Bicchoo and Kaante, lent to him by a friend who called them "Mind-blowing cinema". :roll:


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I'm not saying that students at English colleges act as Poo did, but that she was, indeed, at an English school, and not an Indian one. Also, of course people don't behave the way her character does. Again, it's meant largely to be funny and over-the-top, not a believable representation of students (or human beings) anywhere. "Poo" means "shit" in America as well: I think the ridiculousness of it was supposed to be part of the joke. I'm not saying whether or not the comedy worked for me, but just that that's what it was meant to be: comedy; not reality. I didn't find it "plagiaristic," but a decent use of a popular theme in movies (Indian or not).

I agree that there's no good "excuse" for making a scene-by-scene-re-shoot film such as Ek Ajnabee. It's not "making global cinema accessible to the Indian population"; it's taking the back-door out of hard work and creativity, hoping that enough of your target audience won't know what you're trying to pull, and that you might just come out of it with a hefty profit. When even superficial details are left intact (characters' careers, backgrounds, hobbies, etc.), there's just no hiding the fact that the director hadn't a clue as to what to do himself, and so opted to just re-do, as accurately as he could, another's work. As for India's not being globally-recognized, I think it involves much more than just the quality of work. India does produce some fine cinema (and, yes, its share of shit, as well), and factors of global status (money, politics, history, etc.) play into its position at least as much as anything else. Further, I don't think India needs to be bent on "world-wide recogntion": if other like what they see, fine; if they're not the right audience for a film like Laawaris, then that's fine, too.


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Indian colleges are nothing like what is potrayed in 'Main Hoon Na'. By the way the shooting of the film has been done at a High School. I think the school is Bishop Cotton a well known Boarding school.


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I'm not saying that students at English colleges act as Poo did, but that she was, indeed, at an English school, and not an Indian one.


I think they filmed it at King College which is part of London University, but I'm not too sure. Thankfully I can't remember it too well.

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I think the ridiculousness of it was supposed to be part of the joke.


I don't think Mr Johar knew the difference. Alot of Indian directors are unfamilar with foreign culture although they try to be hip and show their characters are well travelled and down with it. I remember Salman Khan's character Prem in Hum Aapke Hain Kaun, wore a hat that said 'Boy' on it. He as well as the whole Indian crew must've been unaware that the hat is targeted mainly for the gay community in the early 90's in UK. :lol:

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As for India's not being globally-recognized, I think it involves much more than just the quality of work. India does produce some fine cinema


When it comes to be globally recognised, I think it's parallel cinema or the films of Satyajit Ray that are recognised more by the rest of the world rather than "bollywood". Bollywood is still treated as second-rate cinema, sort of like B-movies. Many non-indian audiences have liked films like Mr & Mrs Iyer but not films like Don. A few bollywood films have recently being recognised such as Lagaan, simply because of oscar consideration. Since then the Indian film industry are desperate to promote their films every year for oscar consideration. A film like Devdas had Indian audiences raving about it but in the west people were wondering what all the fuss was about.
I think sometimes the films India promotes are not always the the films the rest of the world wishes to see (e.g. Andaaz) and the films Indian audiences reject are sometimes the films that would be appreciated in the west.
For example at a film festival in London I went to, the films Yahaan and Hari Om went down well with the western audience. These films were probably flops in India and are not your typical Hindi cinema.

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Further, I don't think India needs to be bent on "world-wide recogntion": if other like what they see, fine; if they're not the right audience for a film like Laawaris, then that's fine, too.


Like I said India is desperate for this recognition, look at their efforts after Lagaan. A film like Black looks like it was made simply to win awards. It's not what we think Indian film industry should be like it is how the film industry is like at the moment. They are seeing that other film industries like HK are very successful with non-chinese audiences across the world and I think India wants that success too. Mr Bachchan certainly wants it...what was the whole point of the IIFA awards?


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