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If only that happened, that would be tragic!


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that is actually a still from an upcoming movie, a subhash ghai film I think


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glad to see you back arabica :wink:

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Katrina Kaif must be p***ed off by this new development.


ya, varma fortunately seems to have made a clear sweep of her from his camp.. first sholay and now this..


good riddence, i'd say. she doesn't seem like she can bring anything to the table


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n00bs should feel lucky and grateful to work with established directors. if they don't have confidence in his work, they can take a hike. but i doubt that is the case with kaif


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sweetfriend wrote:
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n00bs should feel lucky and grateful to work with established directors. if they don't have confidence in his work, they can take a hike. but i doubt that is the case with kaif

Full a crap--are u in the pay of RGV that turd.


Yeah, the factory pays my bills :roll:

put things into perspective...

Fresh Grad from college. 0 work experience. fortunate enough to get an interview with a forture 100 company. asks the interviewer "I've got nothing to show you, but what can you show me??" "I've got no experience, gimme this gimme that"


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Just because someone is a "newbie" with "no experience," does not mean that he or she does not have the right to know what he or she is getting involved in; this is especially true in the world of performing arts. As a matter of fact, if I'm "new" to the business, I have all the more reason to be interested in the script of the first big film I do, in which I play a critical part. It's important that I establish myself as I wish, and I certainly can't do so if the director is unwilling to so much as share with me what my role will entail, or what the story of the film will be. I understand that certain directors — especially with certain stories — are hesitant to hand out scripts to just everyone; I feel they may be justified in feeling this way. Nonetheless, if an actor is uncomfortable working without a complete sense of his project, then I don't feel he ought to be scorned for walking away from it.


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commando, just as you feel an actor might have the right to access a script, a director (especially an established one) has the right to omit accessibility to his/her script.

I don't know what the deal is behind the whole RGV thing, I'm just speaking in general terms. if either side doesn't like the terms, either side can take a hike, as they both have alternate solutions to their needs. nothing is set in stone.

sweetfriend, I have learned my lesson. Just as most others here, I am finished with communicating with you. you are the weakest link, good bye!


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Yuvan wrote:
commando, just as you feel an actor might have the right to access a script, a director (especially an established one) has the right to omit accessibility to his/her script.

I don't know what the deal is behind the whole RGV thing, I'm just speaking in general terms. if either side doesn't like the terms, either side can take a hike, as they both have alternate solutions to their needs. nothing is set in stone.


Again, I'm not claiming that a film-maker does not have the "right" to keep the script of his film from his actors:

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I understand that certain directors — especially with certain stories — are hesitant to hand out scripts to just everyone; I feel they may be justified in feeling this way. Nonetheless, if an actor is uncomfortable working without a complete sense of his project, then I don't feel he ought to be scorned for walking away from it.


Nonetheless, I disagree with the notion that a "newcomer" does not have the right to be picky. Indeed, again, it is the "newcomer" who has great reason to be concerned with what he's getting himself in to, as it is he who as an identity to establish in the industry.

*I'm not restricting this to "Ram Gopal Varma," either.


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ugh. again, they also have the right to take a hike if they don't like the terms is all i'm sayin :P


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Yuvan wrote:
ugh. again, they also have the right to take a hike if they don't like the terms is all i'm sayin :P


Yes, they do; everyone has the "right to take a hike," unless he or she is in prison. I feel that, eariler, you tried to make the point that newcomers don't have the right to ask to see the script of a film, as though they — because of their sheer "freshness" — somehow are not entitled to. It is this idea with which I disagree.


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Yuvan wrote:
good riddence, i'd say. she doesn't seem like she can bring anything to the table


agreed, especially after I found out her lines were dubbed for sarkar. though in the case of sholay, sush makes for a pretty sad replacement imo

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Just because someone is a "newbie" with "no experience," does not mean that he or she does not have the right to know what he or she is getting involved in


an 'actress' who can't even speak her own lines has no business asking for scripts


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ugh. again, they also have the right to take a hike if they don't like the terms is all i'm sayin :P


Yes, they do; everyone has the "right to take a hike," unless he or she is in prison. I feel that, eariler, you tried to make the point that newcomers don't have the right to ask to see the script of a film, as though they — because of their sheer "freshness" — somehow are not entitled to. It is this idea with which I disagree.


I guess I should've been detailed. yes, I agree with what you've got to say. Let me be clear, there is something missing in this peculiar equation, the difference between asking and demanding. sure,they can ask. but the original notion was in regards to demanding? in that case I would have to disagree.


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Mola Ram wrote:
glad to see you back arabica :wink:

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Katrina Kaif must be p***ed off by this new development.


ya, varma fortunately seems to have made a clear sweep of her from his camp.. first sholay and now this..


First of all, Good to be back Mola ram :D


yeah its good that Katrina Kaif was fired, more so from Sholay.
She was all wrong for Jaya Badhuri's role. It would be awkward if her lines were dubbed in a much eloborate role in sarkar II.

I didn't mind her that much in the original.


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abbas tyrewala is writing this now, this is getting a lot more interesting! though I still wish amit&son were not in this...

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Ash Soon As Possible

Subhash K Jha

Ram Gopal Verma has rubbished rumours about Aishwarya Rai having second thoughts about doing Sarkar 2, thereby ending all speculation about the project being shelved. The film, which starts shooting in March 2007, has already acquired the stars' dates.

"Amitji, Abhishek and Aishwarya have confirmed their dates. There's no question of Aishwarya having second thoughts. She consented after finding out every detail of her role. She plays a very strong character, far stronger than the women in Sarkar. You could say Aishwarya is as much a part of the central drama as the Bachchans. I went to her because I needed a leading lady of her stature. I wouldn't waste my time and hers by offering her a nondescript role," he says.

Written by Abbas Tyrewala, Sarkar 2 carries the story of the desi Corleone family forward. "But you must understand Sarkar 2 won't be akin to Godfather 2 in the sense that it won't have the son taking over the family business from the father. Amitji will continue to be a powerful force in the drama. I had openly acknowledged my debt to Francis Coppola's Godfather. Sarkar wouldn't have been possible without The Godfather. But Sarkar 2 will owe no debt to Godfather 2," says Varma.

Elaborating on the plot, Ramu says Sarkar 2 will go into the politics of rural Maharashtra and into the power corridors of Delhi. In this prolonged seasoned of remakes and sequels is Ramu jumping into both bandwagons to be fashionably marketable.


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