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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:39 am 
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Sony, Toshiba presidents to meet on new DVD format

TOKYO (Reuters) - The presidents of Japanese electronics giants Sony (6758.T), Toshiba (6502.T) and Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. (6752.T) will meet to try to break a stalemate in talks over a unified format for next-generation DVD technology, a source close to the matter said on Tuesday.

Sony and Toshiba, leading rival camps, have waged a three-year battle to have their new technology standards adopted by the industry.

The winner will have pole position in the multi-billion-dollar markets for DVD players, PC drives and optical discs.

The high-level talks offer new hope for negotiations that appeared to have reached an impasse.

A senior Toshiba official was quoted by the Nihon Keizai Shimbun on Monday as saying one format based on Sony technology would be "extremely difficult."

Both sides still believe one standard is the best scenario, knowing that a prolonged format battle like the one between VHS and Betamax two decades ago would likely discourage consumers from shifting to advanced discs and stifle the industry's growth.

"We continue to believe in the merits of establishing one format but discussions up until now have not been able to produce an agreement," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "So the talks will be taken to a higher level."

The source said it had not been decided whether Toshiba would send its current president, Tadashi Okamura, or incoming president Atsutoshi Nishida.

Likewise, it is not clear whether Sony will be represented by Ryoji Chubachi, who is scheduled to become president in June, or current president Kunitake Ando.

Kunio Nakamura, president of Panasonic products maker Matsushita, will likely attend the talks, the source said.

"The exact timing and place of the meeting has not yet been decided. It will be held when a time that fits the schedules of all three company heads is found," the source said. "It could be as early as this week but we are now at the planning stage."

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Officials from Toshiba, which backs a new DVD technology called HD-DVD, and Sony and Matsushita, which support a rival standard known as Blu-ray, began meeting earlier this year to try and establish a format incorporating technology from both sides.

The negotiations have been leaning toward unifying the formats based on the Blu-ray disc structure.

But Toshiba continues to maintain that adopting the HD DVD structure would be more cost efficient because it is closer to the current DVD.

Toshiba has also been under pressure from parts makers and film studios in the HD DVD camp not to give in.

Just last week Toshiba announced that it had developed a triple-layer HD DVD disc with data capacity of 45 gigabytes, 50 percent more than a previously unveiled version and enough to hold 12 hours of high-definition movies.

Warner Home Video and Universal Studios Home Entertainment both issued statements endorsing Toshiba's new disc.

The announcements were seen as a move to help steer talks more in favor of the HD DVD side.

In addition to Sony and Matsushita, Blu-ray members also include computer giant Dell Inc. (Nasdaq:DELL - news), Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. (005930.KS) and Philips Electronics NV (PHG.AS).

HD DVD technology is also backed by NEC Corp. (6701.T), Sanyo Electric Co. Ltd. (6764.T) and several other firms.

In Blu-ray, a layer to hold data is put on the surface of a substrate and covered by thin protective layers. In HD-DVD discs, a memory layer is sandwiched between two substrates.

At the core of both formats are blue lasers, which have a shorter wavelength than the red lasers used in current DVD equipment, allowing discs to store data at the higher densities needed for high-definition movies and television.

The outcome of the meeting between the presidents of Sony, Toshiba and Matsushita could have a significant impact on future product launches.

A move toward unification could actually lead to a delay in the introduction of next-generation devices.

Toshiba has already unveiled plans to launch HD DVD players in the last quarter of 2005 while Sony announced plans this week to introduce its new PlayStation video game console in the spring of 2006 equipped with a Blu-ray disc drive.


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... pan_dvd_dc

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:21 pm 
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Oooooo could get nasty;

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... ech_dvd_dc

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 5:13 pm 
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haha, this is like the World Wars of technology

"stop now or we blast you" - with japanese accent.

it's only the consumers that are at loss here :( if there are going to be 2 formats, we should boycott both of them. unless they going to sell me their sh*t at sub-$200 for the hardware, and sub-$15 for the software


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Don't worry guys there is only ONE real High Definition format, i.e. Blu-Ray. The other so called HD format being HD-DVD is going to be toast, which it deserves to be anyhow. If you ask me, we are better off with 'two' formats, if that is what it takes to keep from getting Blu-Ray filtered down any more than it already has been. I am sure you all realize that ;One' format would mean compromising the technology ogf Blu-Ray to accomodate Toshiba led HD-DVD specs. HD-DVD is 'dead on arrival' technology which is already obsolete and the only reason it is even in the picture is due to the greed of Warner and Toshiba, both of whom have a major stake in anything 'DVD'.


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I don't understand the basis of your argument against Toshiba.

but from what I understand, i have 2 hands. and if 2 formats are released, i'm going to give both formats the finger! :bash:


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:55 am 
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Two format war reminds everyone of the VHS and Beta-max saga which from the consumer point of view should be avoided.

Blu-ray is already getting a lead as it’s the format chosen for the PS3 giving it an instant user install base. The media also allows more storage capacity than HD-DVD;

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/19 ... 25979.html


But like the VHS v Beta-max war, the better technology doesn’t always win.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:59 am 
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"Sony, Toshiba deny next-gen disc pact", more reading here;

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/10 ... 24013.html

Whos supporting what;

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Sony's Blu-ray discs are said to offer 25GB of storage space in their single-layer form and are supported by MGM, Sony Pictures, and Disney, although Disney's agreement with Sony is nonexclusive. Blu-ray discs are also designed to work with the PlayStation 3.

Toshiba's HD-DVD format can hold 15GB of information in a single layer. The format is supported by Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., and New Line Cinema.


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Bah 100gb is so yesterday.. anyone for 800gb DVDs?

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8372/800G ... -Patented/

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:09 pm 
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Next-gen HD-DVD war to happen,

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000590044641/

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