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I dont know if it really go thru censor here, because I never hear any indian movie production house finding issues with censor here. Not sure how they allow these movies to begin with. Few months back in SunTV news, while reading the headlines they were showing the "beheading" of americans (actually someone cutting the throat). But later during the description of the news, SunTV was blocked for the duration of the details of the news. I was really happy that these people blocked. But this is only where it was american.They too didnt block in news when they were showing other nationals. So it seems censor here also is biased. Its okay to behead non-american but not okay to show american beheading.

My sincere advice to my family is to avoid news from suntv apart from all kids programmes.

Speaking of this... we had an incident. One couple bought Ramayan Cartoon DVD few months back and they returned the DVD with in 2 days. They said that there is too much violence on the DVD. While I couldnt control my laugh, I fully understand that for American standard it is too much. May be they should watch some tamil movies first before buying any kids product!


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Censors topic brings in another possibility.

Consider MUMBAI EXPRESS, where a certain scenes are deleted by Indian Censors/ Producers just to avoid an 'A' certificate. What's seen as unacceptable for screenings in India may be viewed favourably in the overseas or on DVD. I wonder why don't the producers/ distributors include these deleted scenes in Extras?? I would rather have an option to see what the director intended instead of EXTRAS giving us REJECTED scenes, passing them as deleted scenes??

Of course different people have different standards of what's acceptable and what's vulgar or too much violence. But, while playing EXTRAS in a DVD, we aere in control with remote in hand. We don't have to see what we don't like, but others may want to see it.
In my case, I don't like vulgarity, even Dada Kondke style comedy.


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rana wrote:
Censors topic brings in another possibility.
I wonder why don't the producers/ distributors include these deleted scenes in Extras?? I would rather have an option to see what the director intended instead of EXTRAS giving us REJECTED scenes, passing them as deleted scenes??

I have the same thing in my mind. When I saw "extra" features in the Hindi DVD, I tought its all deleted scenes but was disappointed that its not included.

I dont know who is releasing Tamil DVD, but I do hope that someone will add the deleted scenes in Tamil version atleast.


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In the US films are not required to be submitted to the MPAA for a rating, unlike in the UK where every film must be rated by the BBFC. So for US screenings, the only restrictions placed on a film are those placed by the Indian censors. Have any Tamil films gotten into trouble with the BBFC?

It would be cool if the cut song from MX was included in non-Indian prints, but that could increase people in India buying pirated versions to see what was cut. Of course, piracy is widespread anyways.

That song was cut from the Hindi version of MX as well, but since the Hindi version was not shot in Tamil Nadu and is in Hindi, why does the Chennai censor have jurisdiction over it? Because the producer is based in TN?


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DragunR2 wrote:
So for US screenings, the only restrictions placed on a film are those placed by the Indian censors.


Why and by whom??

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why does the Chennai censor have jurisdiction over it? Because the producer is based in TN?


I think the rule is that any film can be submitted for censors whereever the producers want. A Bombay made film can be submitted to be censored in Chennai or any of the Censor offices. I think many states have Censor offices??


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rana wrote:
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So for US screenings, the only restrictions placed on a film are those placed by the Indian censors.


Why and by whom??


I mean simply that any content can be shown theatrically in the US. If the producers wanted to release prints in the US with lots more violence and sex, they could. But they usually release the version that was passed by the Indian censor.

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why does the Chennai censor have jurisdiction over it? Because the producer is based in TN?


I think the rule is that any film can be submitted for censors whereever the producers want. A Bombay made film can be submitted to be censored in Chennai or any of the Censor offices. I think many states have Censor offices??[/quote]

I thought that this was not the case? Wasn't there some controversy about Boys being censored in Hyderabad instead of Chennai?


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DragunR2 wrote:
rana wrote:

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why does the Chennai censor have jurisdiction over it? Because the producer is based in TN?


I think the rule is that any film can be submitted for censors whereever the producers want. A Bombay made film can be submitted to be censored in Chennai or any of the Censor offices. I think many states have Censor offices??


I thought that this was not the case? Wasn't there some controversy about Boys being censored in Hyderabad instead of Chennai?


The film can be submitted to any of the censor boards. Its up to the regional censor board to see if they can censor the film based on the lanhuage. They can refer the film to another censor board if they do not have the capacity to understand the language - which practically means that they are always submitted to the proper censor board. The rules were amended in the past decade so that a dubbed film does not need to be recensored. I assume that Kamal submitted the Tamil version to Chennai censors. As no re censoring is needed the Hindi film has the same cuts.

Controversies are created by people. Getting the telugu version of Boys censored in Hyderabad was the producer's prerogative and completely legal


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Ah, IIRC the controversy over Boys was that the Hyd censors were more lenient on the film than the Chennai censors would have been, presumably, and Tamil audiences found the film to be vulgar.


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DragunR2 wrote:
Ah, IIRC the controversy over Boys was that the Hyd censors were more lenient on the film than the Chennai censors would have been, presumably, and Tamil audiences found the film to be vulgar.


Thats debatable. It was exactly the reverse in case of Naani/New - The role of Ramya Krishna(Kiran) was completely cut in telugu. Even after that the film flopped in telugu since it was deemed too vulgar by some (A pity since the film had some potential). However it was a hit in tamil. Do you think people dont find other films vulgar? Controversies are created by some organizations who are looking for an example (nothing wrong with that either). The presumption does not seem to be valid


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That's what I recall reading about it. There was some controversy in TN over its supposed vulgarity, though. I don't know if it was regular citizens that were offended, though I know some women's group petitioned for it to be banned. But someone's always protesting something.

Boys got a U/A cert from Hyd with quite a few cuts. The cuts for Chandramukhi were not available.


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jag wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
Ah, IIRC the controversy over Boys was that the Hyd censors were more lenient on the film than the Chennai censors would have been, presumably, and Tamil audiences found the film to be vulgar.


Thats debatable. It was exactly the reverse in case of Naani/New - The role of Ramya Krishna(Kiran) was completely cut in telugu. Even after that the film flopped in telugu since it was deemed too vulgar by some (A pity since the film had some potential). However it was a hit in tamil. Do you think people dont find other films vulgar? Controversies are created by some organizations who are looking for an example (nothing wrong with that either). The presumption does not seem to be valid


thats total crap though. If you look at stills of most telugu films, there is so much skin exposed. New is nothing compared to that.


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kchan wrote:

thats total crap though. If you look at stills of most telugu films, there is so much skin exposed. New is nothing compared to that.


"thats total crap"??:roll: Vulgarity has nothing to do with skin exposure. If i made assumptions based on posters I would never watch any malayalam movies. I was just giving an example of censoring. I dont want to get into childish discussions about which movies are more vulgar


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Bottom line is, Rajni, Kamal should learn lesson from Big B and should stop romancing/kissing instinct with 16 years old gals! and should play their age!

Both are spectacular performers in their own right, and if they can get into bollywood and play their own age will give AB run for his life!! :lol:

Anil, and Sunny should follow and SRK just a couple more years of chaiya chaiya! :wink:


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jag wrote:
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thats total crap though. If you look at stills of most telugu films, there is so much skin exposed. New is nothing compared to that.


"thats total crap"??:roll: Vulgarity has nothing to do with skin exposure. If i made assumptions based on posters I would never watch any malayalam movies. I was just giving an example of censoring. I dont want to get into childish discussions about which movies are more vulgar


Sorry I was not talking about your post. I was talking about telugu people saying New was too vulgar. I didn't say skin show was vulgar, but look at some telugu movie stills with Shriya, Charmy or something like Naa alludu. I think that is vulgar.

I didn't say anything against telugu films in general.
By the way, Malayalam films (excpt the side products of Shakeela and co) are the cleanest films in the world. The actresses don't even expose their navels. What are you talking about?


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arsh wrote:
Bottom line is, Rajni, Kamal should learn lesson from Big B and should stop romancing/kissing instinct with 16 years old gals! and should play their age!

Both are spectacular performers in their own right, and if they can get into bollywood and play their own age will give AB run for his life!! :lol:

Anil, and Sunny should follow and SRK just a couple more years of chaiya chaiya! :wink:


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Fans won't let go of Rajni and Kamal: Tamil cinema's 50-plus lodestars who don't—or can't—show the way[/url]


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