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WILL IT CLICK WITH INDIAN MASSES
YEs 43%  43%  [ 6 ]
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Rita wrote:
The subject matter of this film is not my cup of tea (no
offense to people who have an alternative lifestyle) but
I feel it is inappropriate for family entertainment. :shock:


Is films like HAWAS depicting sexually explict scenes of adultery more suitable for family viewing? Either you criticise all sexual obscenity and immorality in bollywood films (and that won't leave much else at today's standard) or you just advocate yourself as simply homophobic....


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Rita wrote:
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If the story is good then there should be no reason. Remember this is not the first lesbian movie in India....

was there a movie called deep fire


Also the movie "Kama Sutra: A Tale of Love" has a lesbian theme.


Was that abt Rekha? the KAMA SUTRA GURU?

BTW! IMHO, this theme has been used very tasyefully and wickedly in MOksha!! Film is Great otherwise too..watch it!


I saw "Kama Sutra: A Tale of Love' in the 1990's on TV.
Rekha was cast as Rasa Devi, teacher of the Kama Sutra.
The same-sex scenes were protrayed very modestly and discreetly.

Haven't seen "Moksha"--enjoy watching the erotic 'Jaan Leva' song and dance with Arjun Rampal on some of my Bollywood song dvds.


Watch it again Rita!! with a bit more dedication, going through, B&W and COLOR stuff!! I personally thought COURT ROOM scenes were very well done!! Not LOUD/DRAMATIC or OVER THE BOARD!


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I saw HAWAS and MURDER on the same day, one after another, and it was really like a 'spot the difference' game, as both films were almost identical. The topic is essentially about a sexually unsatisfied wife that seeks physical relief in an adulturous affair, which eventually leads to murder.

Although I understand that films with themes around lesbianism are not suitable for family viewing, if the film is artistic and well made like FIRE, it is better than hetrosexual porn. Perhaps, that is why an actress of SHABANA AZMI's calibre played the role of lesbian in Fire. But admittedly, neither are suitable for family viewing!


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armaan wrote:
I saw HAWAS and MURDER on the same day, one after another, and it was really like a 'spot the difference' game, as both films were almost identical. The topic is essentially about a sexually unsatisfied wife that seeks physical relief in an adulturous affair, which eventually leads to murder.

Although I understand that films with themes around lesbianism are not suitable for family viewing, if the film is artistic and well made like FIRE, it is better than hetrosexual porn. Perhaps, that is why an actress of SHABANA AZMI's calibre played the role of lesbian in Fire. But admittedly, neither are suitable for family viewing!


If films like MASTI can flourish and prosper with all kinda LACHAR THEMES! in every society!! then I think sky is the limit!!

I totally agree!! Fire/Kama sutra/murder/Hawas/ECSLS/TUM etc,are not Family films at all, along with MASTI!!

But they have FOUND their NICHE any ways!!whether you or me watch it or not!!

It is VARIABLE , defination of DECENCY from different people's perspective! :shock:


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Arsh, you're right about decency being all about a person's point of view. For example I find it OBSCENE to stamp a logo right in the middle of a Hindi DVD screen throughout the movie, or put a print out that's so laughably bad you can't make out what's happening. :evil:

I can deal wit two girls caressing each other.. as long as the print quality is good! :lol:


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Girlfriend inspired from real life story

By IndiaFM News Bureau, June 10th, 2004 - 1400 hrs IST





Director Karan Razdan's lesbian drama Girlfriend all set to hit the marquee tomorrow is also an inspired film. But in this case the director was inspired from one of his real life incidents. The director confessed that a hot babe was quite obsessed with his girlfriend and even attempted to rupture their relationship. However Karan realized it soon enough and terminated all her deceitful ideas. He translated his real life story into the script of Girlfriend.

Meanwhile after his first two erotica treat Hawas and Girlfriend, Razdan is all set to start work on his next film titled Eight which has a scene of complete nudity (though implied) where the lead couple of the film chant in the forest to evoke a spirit. The film will introduce late actor Raj Kumar's daughter Vastavikta and a new model Raj Tara. The film also stars Meghna Naidu, Gulshan Grover and will be the comeback vehicle of yesteryear actress Padmini Kolhapure


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Girlfriend inspired from real life story

By IndiaFM News Bureau, June 10th, 2004 - 1400 hrs IST





Director Karan Razdan's lesbian drama Girlfriend all set to hit the marquee tomorrow is also an inspired film. But in this case the director was inspired from one of his real life incidents. The director confessed that a hot babe was quite obsessed with his girlfriend and even attempted to rupture their relationship. However Karan realized it soon enough and terminated all her deceitful ideas. He translated his real life story into the script of Girlfriend.

Meanwhile after his first two erotica treat Hawas and Girlfriend, Razdan is all set to start work on his next film titled Eight which has a scene of complete nudity (though implied) where the lead couple of the film chant in the forest to evoke a spirit. The film will introduce late actor Raj Kumar's daughter Vastavikta and a new model Raj Tara. The film also stars Meghna Naidu, Gulshan Grover and will be the comeback vehicle of yesteryear actress Padmini Kolhapure


Hmm... very interesting. But what in the world is the big deal over "implied nudity"?? What does that mean anywayz? ARe they gonna have a scene where they show the girl from the shoulders up and cut to the guy sitting across, his eyes wide open and drool coming out of his mouth?? Is that how they're gonna imply it? :lol:


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if u see trailor 3 at indiafm, it kinda sums up what film is about!!

Isha Kopikar's role seem pretty strong , and she seem to be doing very well!! She is making a lot of progress especially, coming out as ITEM GIRL!

I think she willget a lot of critical ACCLAIM for that role, pretty daring and experimental for here!

Music is not bad either! It is not as REFINED and SIMPLY CREAMA LA CREAM like JISM but decent over all!!

Looks like more skin for AMRITA ARORA with ASHISH!

I think there might be scenes from guys perspective re two girlfriends! in thesame way, WIFE SWAPPING WITH SOME ERROTIC SENSE was shown from BOBY DEOL's MIND in AJNABEE where he dreams/ sees AKSHAY and POO doing it ALL IN ALL!!

I expect it willbe CROWD PULLER because PREVIEWS will show more of what is not there!


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Girlfriend is best left friendless!

Shalini Jain | June 11, 2004 20:09 IST


Before you watch Girlfriend, it is important to be clear why you are going. If it is to watch a sensitive, mature film on lesbianism, stay at home. If it is to watch a flesh fest featuring Isha Koppikar and Amrita Arora, what can we say? There's plenty to ogle at.

Two characters in love with the same third character, and one is even ready to kill the other out of jealousy. Suffered through a zillion films like this? Add Girlfriend to the list. With one minor difference: It is not two guys fighting over one girl, it is a girl trying to kill a guy to get the other girl, whether she [the other girl] wants to be won over or not, depending on her alcohol intake at the moment.

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Amrita: Homosexuals are not from another planet

This week in Bollywood


Girlfriend has two 'best friends', Tanya [Isha Koppikar] and Sapna [Amrita Arora], who live in several countries and cities at the same time. While their home is a luxurious beach house in Mauritius, they work in Mumbai and party every night in the pubs of Goa.

Enter Aashish Chowdhary aka Rahul, hero (to Sapna) and villain (to Tanya). Here on, all three characters have a single agenda and facial expression — Sapna to giggle vacuously at whatever the hero says; Tanya to grimace murderously at the same; and Rahul to alternate between giggling vacuously and frowning murderously, depending on which girl he is with.

Many jealousies later, Rahul and Sapna, plagued by each other and the 'best' friend, decide to split.

But director Karan Razdan is determined not to let such a thing as a lesbian separate true lovers. So the story drags on to a predictable ending.

The acting is mediocre and stereotypical — Isha at her villainous best, Amrita at her brainless best, Aashish at his harried best. There is no scene or dialogue worth remembering.

Sample the lines: Amrita to Aashish: "Jab main soti hoon, main behosh hoon. [When I am asleep I am unconscious]." Well, really?!

The songs are more about the flesh fest than melody.

What really riles you about Girlfriend is that it is promoted to be a film dealing with the subject of lesbianism.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a lesbian owing to child abuse, while the other is a lesbian only when she's smashed drunk. In fact, one can judge the intellectual richness of the story when we have a girl, on the morning after, vowing to stay clear of alcohol to avoid homosexuality! There is no exploration of or sensitivity to any other cause to promote an understanding of this still-taboo topic in India.

What is more distressing is that Razdan does a great disservice to the lesbian community by portraying the only lesbian character in the film as an out-and-out psychopathic villain.

CREDITS:
Cast: Isha Koppikar, Amrita Arora, Aashish Choudhury
Director: Karan Razdan
Music: Dabboo Malik


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INDIAFM, seems to be IMPRESSED:

The story of GIRL FRIEND rests on three characters and all three look the parts they are enacting. Isha Koppikar gets the meatiest part and she delivers effortlessly. Her overtly possessive attitude is amongst the highpoints of the film. Even her look towards the second half adds to the character.

Aashish Chowdhry does go overboard in the initial reels, but does well in latter parts. Amrita Arora carries off her role well. This time, the curvaceous actress not only gets a chance to display her anatomy, but talent as well and she rises to the occasion.

On the whole, GIRL FRIEND has two strong points to woo the Indian masses – sex and shock-value. At the box-office, moderately priced GIRL FRIEND should keep its investors safe.

Rating:- * * ½.

PS: u can catch UR DOSE! of :shock: on DVD just released today! :wink:


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Right from the scene one, Isha mesmerizes the viewers. Her portrayal of the role of Tanya, may make many in Bollywood sit and watch her performance again and again. It is the exotic locales that complement the lusty beauty of Isha one to one. Before Isha, Amrita Arora looks like a barbie doll. Though she too tries to do a skin show in some scenes but it is Isha who reigns in here. Karan Rajdan has taken a simple love and hate story and put Isha in the villain's role but has added the lesbian angle to her personality and that may make many traditional film viewers hold their breath as even today many in India are not aware that like gays, lesbians too do exist.

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Karan Rajdan may boast that he has made business to his producers. And, Censor Board chief Anupam Kher may pull up his color for being more than liberal to pass the film with its soul intact, but the worshippers of the art will name it as a sin to filmmaking. Nowadays when filmmakers like Mahesh Bhatt who rose to fame with films like 'Saransh' and 'Arth' are making 'Jism' and 'Murder', where is the path of decency left for strugglers? These buds have found the lovers at an early age; they may not blossom in full but the success at an early age tastes so sweet that they are not even thinking about ethics and norms. Daboo Malik's music tries to make pace with the film but the lust wins and everything else rests behind in this new film of Karan Rajdan that is 'Girlfriend'.


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This is why i support censorship - mediocre filmmakers like these just prey on the freedom given to serious filmmakers. From the promos, the film looks like a joke.

I'd suggest anyone interested in the topic to watch Monster.


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Girlfriend
Producer: Harry Baweja
Director: Karan Razdan
Starring: Isha Kopikkar, Amrita Arora, Aashish Choudhary
Music: Daboo Malik
Lyrics: Praveen Bhardwaj

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Genre: Drama
Recommended Audience: Adult
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Released on: June 11, 2004
Reviewed by: Surjyakiran Das
Reviewer's Rating: 7 out of 10
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Terrible, self-indulgent, and melodramatic Bollywood cinema certainly makes for some outstanding unintentional comedy. Just like Raj Kumar Kohli’s unforgettable “Jaani Dushman” and Mani Shankar’s equally hilarious “Rudraksh,” Karan Razdan’s “Girlfriend” is so consistently and inadvertently awful, that it is an absolute riot to watch.


Amrita Arora recently gave an interview in which she remarked that homosexuals deserve to be treated with "dignity and respect." She went on at great length to make comments about the intense admiration she harbored for homosexuals that persevered and persisted in the face of societal disapproval. What, then, is Ms. Arora doing starring in a film where lesbianism is seen as an injurious psychological disorder?


The simple answer is, exploiting. Arora, director Karan Razdan, and co-star Isha Kopikkar exploit the enigmatic appeal of lesbian sensuality throughout the initial reels of “Girlfriend,” before condemning lesbians and labeling them mentally unstable in the third act. Indeed, the most striking thing about this film is how deeply hypocritical it is on every level.


The thin semblance of a plot that propels the film from one gratuitous skin-show to the next is, in essence, a substandard rehash of the classic Bollywood “love triangle gone wrong.” Characters A and B vie for the affection of a third character, C, and when B and C go off together, A becomes dangerously obsessive and must eventually be destroyed by B. The only difference between “Girlfriend” and earlier entries in this genre such as Yash Chopra’s “Darr” and Rajat Mukherjee’s “Pyar Tune Kya Kiya” is that, this time, the obsessive lover (Isha Koppikar) is a lesbian in love with her best friend (Amrita Arora).


Not that the plot really matters in a film like this. The characters are poorly written, entire scenes and sequences lack even the most remote traces of causality, and whatever doesn’t have to do with lesbianism is as hackneyed and clichéd as possible.


In reality, the plot is one of convenience aimed only at maximizing the number of intimate encounters between Kopikkar and Arora’s characters. Take, for example, this plot element - Arora’s character suffers from an affinity for alcohol. When she finally gets entirely drunk, she ends up sleeping with her lesbian friend, but only by mistake. If sober, of course, she would never engage in such sinful behavior.


Which brings us to the central tenet of Razdan’s film – lesbianism as a dangerous breach of nature and tradition that must ultimately be eradicated. One of the female protagonists in the film was subject to grotesque abuse as a child. As a result, she becomes a full-fledged lesbian; she comes to hate men, develop unhealthy sexual fixations with women, and harbor various homicidal and sociopathic tendencies. The other woman in the film becomes a lesbian only sporadically due to substance abuse. The lesbianism in both women is ultimately destroyed in the film’s predictable, status-quo upholding, “happy” ending; one of the women resolves to stop drinking and the other is subjugated by the hero as all villains eventually are in Hindi films.


A film like this doesn’t require performances, and none of the actors involved are the kind to deliver when it’s uncalled for. Kopikkar, who is quickly becoming a reliable over-actor, sneers and hams through her role; her pathetic turn really reinforces the overwhelming theme of lesbianism being a psychological disorder. Arora looks stunning, but stumbles through her lines and forces preposterously awkward expressions of delight and disgust as they are required. Whereas both of these actresses could have done something interesting with the roles given to them, they do nothing more than prove that they belong in the industry ditch they are stuck in; an item number here, a sleazy B-movie there, and they’ll be gone in a couple of years before audiences even fully learn their names. Aashish Choudhary and the rest of the supporting cast turn in similarly miserable performances.


All of this is combined with terrible direction, awful songs, ridiculously sexual music videos, and some of the worse cinematography ever committed to celluloid, to make for an absolutely fantastic, thoroughly entertaining three hours of unintentional comedy.


Whether its Kopikkar’s utterly absurd take on what a lesbian behaves like, the dreadful “Matrix”-inspired fight scenes between Kopikkar and Choudhary, or the idiotic melodrama that permeates the film’s conclusion, nearly every aspect of the film will have an intelligent audience in splits.


“Girlfriend” is a truly pathetic and cowardly attempt to exploit lesbian sexuality to attract horny moviegoers, only to then condemn homosexuality as a whole for its inherent immorality. Razdan and the actors involved will insist that they did not create the movie for titillation, but attempted a “mature,” “honest,” and “dignified” exploration of the theme of homosexuality. Evidently, this claim is just as laughable as the film itself. Would Razdan have made a film in which the lesbian couple was in the right and Choudhary’s character was the obsessive one? Or a film that dealt with male homosexuality complete with sensual music videos and shamelessly exploitative sex scenes? Clearly, the answers to these questions are even more predictable than the film’s ending.


Unlike perverted trade analyst-turned-critics who may recommend this film because of the box-office success the sexual content of the film promises, it can only realistically be recommended as something to be laughed at and ridiculed. Karan Razdan’s highly-offensive lesbian exploitation flick is a laughing-stock and comes recommended only for those that can enjoy making fun of the shoddiness of its filmmaking and the hypocrisy of its creators. The phrase “so bad, it’s good” has seldom been more applicable.


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Aryan wrote:
I'd suggest anyone interested in the topic to watch Monster.

Are you talking about Patty Jenkin's Monster? Because that film was beyond lame!

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DVD Collector wrote:
Aryan wrote:
I'd suggest anyone interested in the topic to watch Monster.

Are you talking about Patty Jenkin's Monster? Because that film was beyond lame!

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Keeping the CONTEXT !! IMHO, absolutely BRILLIANT, CHARLEZ THERON in MONSTER!


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