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What about Ayngaran? Their menus are too animated, and they surely pay quite a bit for the DTS licensing fee, since DTS is on every other release these days.


Having DTS cost an extra $300. As per my knowledge, one main reason to have DTS & DD5.1 is to make it a little tougher for stores who use simple disk copy tools to make DVD-5 replicas. having DTS results in very bad quality video on DVD-5s. Some are smart to burn the DVD-5s without the DTS track. Of course, one other reason could be some customers love DTS.

I see DTS is there just as a feature to make stores to stick to original DVDs than burning and renting out DVD-5s. Believe me, it's just a survival trick to make the pirates work HARDER! :cry:


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The dvds of Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and Kill Bill (even with its problems), they are extremely faithful to the original cinematography. So it is possible to produce an image similar to the original presentation on a home video format like dvd


Of course it usually happens when you are willing to spend money on proper restoration

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The Indian movie fans are screwed if they want to see a good presentation of their favorite movie on dvd until the damn Indian dvd companies get their sh!t together.


Maybe they can get their shit together if they are given a half decent chance to make money and spend it. Buying 2 in 1 and pirates doesn't help much :lol:

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I wouldn't call people who regularly rent pirate copies "movie lovers." :lol:


DR2 I gave you credit for being a lot smarter . Thats the most assinine remark you have ever made. They may be cheap and doesn't appreciate quality but that hardly makes them non "movie lovers" :lol:

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How much you can spend to make a DVD directly depends on how many you can sell


Absolutely! and I would go further to say that this also determines the quality! :lol:


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The dvds of Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and Kill Bill (even with its problems), they are extremely faithful to the original cinematography. So it is possible to produce an image similar to the original presentation on a home video format like dvd


Of course it usually happens when you are willing to spend money on proper restoration


Kill Bill and Matrix Revolutions don't need "restoration." Just look at K3G, for how good an Indian DVD can look. I'm sure that sold quite a bit too.


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I wouldn't call people who regularly rent pirate copies "movie lovers." :lol:

DR2 I gave you credit for being a lot smarter . Thats the most assinine remark you have ever made. They may be cheap and doesn't appreciate quality but that hardly makes them non "movie lovers" :lol:


Well if they loved movies they would know the original, however bad, will be better quality then the pirate. What kind of experience is that, watching a pirated copy? If all you can find are pirates around you, I can understand, but some people are just plain impatient. I don't know about anyone else, but at the stores in my area the pirates cost the same to rent as the originals, which come pretty quickly after the theatrical release. At least for Hindi movies.


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I know GOOD dvd e.g HSSH compliment average film, BAD dvd like DEVDAS/KHAKEE make it BELOW AVERAGE even a GOOD MOVIE!


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kits, with a company like YRF that seems to be making quite a bit of money at the box office, it seems hard to believe that they lose money with DVDs. If it is the case that they are losing money with DVDs and compromise on quality as a result of this loss, why is it that some of their big name DVDs like K3G, KHNH, Mohabbatein, and DDLJ have so many special features? It seems more logical that if they were losing money, they would not spend the time and money it takes to put together a 2-disc special edition. Thus it seems reasonable to believe that YRF is in fact making money in the DVD business, and only puts in special features to justify inflating their already high prices to $21.99 USD. This seems to go against your "If they were making more money they'd have better quality" theory. YRF puts out good DVD packages, but does not care for picture quality. The fault lies with them, not the pirate buying consumer.


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Kill Bill and Matrix Revolutions don't need "restoration."


So you are saying no restoration was done, zilch, nada? and how or where you get this information from? :lol:
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Just look at K3G, for how good an Indian DVD can look. I'm sure that sold quite a bit too.


And I thought Yash was stuck in your craw! :lol:

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Well if they loved movies they would know the original, however bad, will be better quality then the pirate

And your point? I am under the impression that a true movie lover will watch any quality just for the love of movies and wouldn't really put much emphasis on anything else and would endure any condition or "experience"! :lol: Being impatient I would think buttress their love for movies instead of diminishing it! :lol: I also cannot make the connection between the love of movies and the ability to distinguish originals from pirates or the priceing of rentals! :lol:


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Kill Bill and Matrix Revolutions don't need "restoration."


So you are saying no restoration was done, zilch, nada? and how or where you get this information from? :lol:


They may need shot-to-shot adjustments, but restoration implies major changes to the image, like with an older film.

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Just look at K3G, for how good an Indian DVD can look. I'm sure that sold quite a bit too.


And I thought Yash was stuck in your craw! :lol:


That's one of the few good DVDs YRF has produced.

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Well if they loved movies they would know the original, however bad, will be better quality then the pirate

And your point? I am under the impression that a true movie lover will watch any quality just for the love of movies and wouldn't really put much emphasis on anything else and would endure any condition or "experience"! :lol: Being impatient I would think buttress their love for movies instead of diminishing it! :lol: I also cannot make the connection between the love of movies and the ability to distinguish originals from pirates or the priceing of rentals! :lol:


Quality of the experience is important too. How can one admire the cinematography, for example, if it is artifact-ridden and fuzzy? Unless that is the artistic intent (there are a few films that actually look crappy on purpose), that's a pretty shoddy way to watch a film, especially one whose images are integral to the story. As much as I like Pyaasa, for example, I just don't want to bother with the DVD, especially after seeing a few other Guru Dutt DVDs. V.K. Murthy's hard work and creativity, completely ruined. At least we can agree that the "movie lovers" aren't working at Eros and YRF! :D

By pirates, I don't mean replicated, but the kind that come out the day of the theatrical release, with much much worse quality than the originals. Some video stores let you preview the DVD or VHS before you rent it. I don't know how common this is, though. To find out what is original and not, just visit some online retailer that has the latest new releases to see what the cover looks like.


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but restoration implies major changes to the image, like with an older film.


Oh really! :lol:

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Quality of the experience is important too. How can one admire the cinematography, for example, if it is artifact-ridden and fuzzy? Unless that is the artistic intent (there are a few films that actually look crappy on purpose), that's a pretty shoddy way to watch a film, especially one whose images are integral to the story. As much as I like Pyaasa, for example, I just don't want to bother with the DVD, especially after seeing a few other Guru Dutt DVDs. V.K. Murthy's hard work and creativity, completely ruined. At least we can agree that the "movie lovers" aren't working at Eros and YRF!

By pirates, I don't mean replicated, but the kind that come out the day of the theatrical release, with much much worse quality than the originals. Some video stores let you preview the DVD or VHS before you rent it. I don't know how common this is, though. To find out what is original and not, just visit some online retailer that has the latest new releases to see what the cover looks like.


:?: :?: :roll: :lol:


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but restoration implies major changes to the image, like with an older film.


Oh really! :lol:

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That's my interpretation, but correct me if I'm wrong.


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That's one of the few good DVDs YRF has produced.


Would you pay $20.00 for it? :lol: :P


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That's one of the few good DVDs YRF has produced.


Would you pay $20.00 for it? :lol: :P


I could probably find it for less, but since I hate the movie, I wouldn't pay a cent for it! :D


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I could probably find it for less


Yeah! pirates or dupes! :P Anyway I got the answer I expected. We bellyache for quality and are not willing to pay the price! yet we yearn for Hollywood quality! :P


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We bellyache for quality and are not willing to pay the price! yet we yearn for Hollywood quality! :P [/color]


There are many, willing to pay the price for a good DVD. Many of us bought, and are happy with, Metrodome ASOKA for $ 40 US, Fr. DEVDAS for $ 40 US, YRF K3G for $ 25 US, Warrior for $ 20 US, where as average price an Indian DVD sells for is $ 10 and most are not worth it.

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We bellyache for quality and are not willing to pay the price! yet we yearn for Hollywood quality! :P [/color]


There are many, willing to pay the price for a good DVD. Many of us bought, and are happy with, Metrodome ASOKA for $ 40 US, Fr. DEVDAS for $ 40 US, YRF K3G for $ 25 US, Warrior for $ 20 US, where as average price an Indian DVD sells for is $ 10 and most are not worth it.

Rana


What took you so long? :P :lol:


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I could probably find it for less


Yeah! pirates or dupes! :P Anyway I got the answer I expected. We bellyache for quality and are not willing to pay the price! yet we yearn for Hollywood quality! :P


Nah, I'm sure I can find the original copy for about $10-15 somewhere online. Two-disc version will be more expensive, but it would be worth it if the extras were good. If I wanted to own the film I wouldn't mind paying $20 since the quality is good.


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