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From Kadhalan to Mudhalvan, all five films directed by Shankar have been huge hits. Naturally, expectations are high for his Boys which releases August 15.

So far, Shankar has always cast big stars, whether it was dancing sensation Prabhu Deva and Nagma in Kadhalan or Aishwarya Rai and Prashant in Jeans or Kamal Haasan in Indian or Arjun in Gentleman and Mudhalvan (which was remade in Hindi as Nayak, with Anil Kapoor).

For the first time, Shankar has roped in unknown faces between the ages of 19 and 24 in Boys.

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Having seen the trailer and a few clips, the film surpasses many big Hollywood films which have released this year in terms of special FX. The way the songs have been shot, including Boom Boom are pretty impressive. I also love the new crazy editing techniques and use of varied film speeds from 30fps to 120 fps.

But I doubt Indian audiences are prepared for such a change in film conventions. Also the story/screenplay doesn't look that impressive either. Gone is the screenplay magic that was seen in Kadalan, Gentleman and even Mudalavan.

Also the acting by the new cast looks and sounds awful. I only enjoyed the clips involving the excellent supporting actor Vivek.

My two cents:
The Rs. 30Core expenisve film will flop in India, but will be a massive hit with the NRI (Tamils) in the USA, UK, UAE and all far east countries.

I will look forward to the DTS DVD coming from Ayngaran :)


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I think it'll do well in the metros, but not in other areas in Tamil Nadu. The songs feature quite a few English lyrics, particularly "Dating."

One of the stills on the official website shows what looks like a bullet-time or stop-time setup. The technique has been overused in Matrix parodies, but I'm curious to see what they do with it.




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I saw the movie tonight and here are my thoughts (mild spoilers).

Boys started out nicely. The tone was light and humorous, the acting by the boys and girls was relatively natural, and the songs were good.

But even before the intermission, Shankar ramps up the melodrama, as usual. Lots of crying and screaming. Some humor is interspersed into these scenes, but overall it turns into melodramatic mush, with some inane plot twists. One particularly over-the-top incident towards the end really pissed me off.

I think I have seen the prostitute scene before in some American movie. The dialogues are pretty funny and Vivek is okay too. Unlike in most of his films, he is integrated into the plot.

The cinematography by Ravi K. Chandran (Kannathil Muthamittal, Dil Chahta Hai) is good, and the songs are interestingly shot, though they usually run too long. "Ale Ale" features ridiculous overuse of the stop-time effect, so much so that I could predict when these shots would come up. If they jump in the air, you know a stop-time shot is coming up. It wasn't even well done. The effect was somewhat stuttery. The Gap television ads have used the technique more smoothly. "Girlfriend" features a CGI girl, which looks like something out of a cheap video game. I cringed throughout "Boom Boom." Once again, Shankar introduces crappy CGI, this time with people made of discarded bottles and other trash.

Verdict: This is what we've waited all this time for?! See it for the songs if you must, but the story is terrible. It is only a little better than Jeans :bangbang:


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Hopefully they don't send this for Oscar from India.


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'Shankar has taken Tamil films to new depths'

N Sathiya Moorthy in Chennai | September 09, 2003 18:40 IST


Ravi, a medical student, was excited.

He and a group of his friends from medical college had first day, first show tickets for Shankar's Boys.

Inside the cinema hall, they were in for a shock. As the film began to unspool, the boys in the group found themselves squirming uncomfortably.

"The film was vulgar, though the concept itself is not," says Ravi. "As teenagers and medicos, we have no problems discussing sex with girls our age. But this film was revolting."

The story is about five teenage boys, their escapades and sexual awakening.

Boys has not only earned the disapproval of its target audience, teenagers and moviegoers at large, it has also angered political leaders and the film industry by its vulgar content.

"The film lacked aesthetics. Otherwise, it could have made a difference in presenting teenage inquisitiveness towards sex. The five boys are shown sharing the same call girl. They are also shown preparing for this in great detail. And that's one of the better scenes," says Mohana, a college student.


"You cannot go for the movie with your parents or with your male friends," she adds.

Mohana's friend Archana says she will have to give an explanation to her mother, now that magazines and newspapers are writing about Boys. She had told her mother that she was going for the film's first show. "I thought I could silently bury the idea [about discussing the movie with her parents]. But now she [her mother] may ask questions, not only about the film, but about the company I keep, my tastes and my innocence."

Moviegoers are irked as much by Shankar's involvement in Boys as they are by veteran writer Sujatha Rangarajan's script. An electronic engineer who made it big as a new wave writer in Tamil in the seventies, he is close to being a cult figure today.

"We did not expect Sujatha to write such dirty and double-meaning lines. Not at his age," says Revathi, a regular reader of his books and columns in Tamil magazines. Her elder cousin Priya, who is in her early forties says, "He [Sujatha] became popular by writing serialised stories in Tamil magazines. When he switched over from the mundane to the sublime, we thought age had weathered him." As for Boys, Priya has decided she will not see the film.

Boys obtained the censor certificate from Hyderabad, not Chennai, as should have been the case ordinarily. An industry source says the trailer of the movie went through eight censor cuts in Chennai. The filmmakers, who feared the film would be cut, reportedly decided not to produce the film for certification in Chennai.

It is learnt that the Chennai censors have now questioned the propriety of Hyderabad clearing a Tamil film.

Following pressure from political leaders like the Dalit-strong Puthiya Thamizhagam founder K Krishnaswamy, who has said the movie is a bad lesson for the youth, the producers have deleted some scenes and dialogues from the film. They have also carried out newspaper advertisements, stating the objectionable scenes and dialogues have been cut and the film is now appropriate for 'family viewing'.

Krishnaswamy, who is a medical doctor, had earlier forced Kamal Haasan to change the title of his new venture, Sandiyar (meaning rogue), reportedly a reference to the anti-Dalit Thevar community in southern Tamil Nadu.

An industry person says, "Filmmakers were irritated about Shankar's high price tag after successive hits. He is believed to have charged Rs 50 million for this film. The cost of the project is said to have escalated from Rs 100 million to Rs 200 million after Shankar was forced to reshoot much of the film. Apparently, an earlier film had a similar story. This made Shankar to want to save the project one way or the other."

Few Tamil films in recent times have prompted as much hope and expectation, from the audience and filmmakers alike, as Boys. Shankar is known for a slew of superhits, from Gentleman to Kadhalan to Indian and Jeans.

Indian, a Kamal Haasan-starrer, was dubbed in Hindi as Hindustani. Shankar's Mudhalvan was a superhit in Tamil, but bombed when remade in Hindi as Nayak with Anil Kapoor and Rani Mukerji.

The pre-release reports for Boys were good. And, like all Shankar films, this one too had good music from A R Rahman.

However, Boys has tanked at the box office. "We thought after the failure of Rajni's [Ranijikanth] Baba, Shankar would revive the industry. Not only has he not helped, he has also taken Tamil filmdom to new depths. Now, it has suddenly become the target of derision and possible contempt," says a film veteran.

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arsh wrote:
"The film was vulgar, though the concept itself is not," says Ravi. "As teenagers and medicos, we have no problems discussing sex with girls our age. But this film was revolting."

However, Boys has tanked at the box office. "We thought after the failure of Rajni's [Ranijikanth] Baba, Shankar would revive the industry. Not only has he not helped, he has also taken Tamil filmdom to new depths. Now, it has suddenly become the target of derision and possible contempt," says a film veteran.

Boys is revolting, but not because of vulgarity. The script and direction stunk.

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Boys obtained the censor certificate from Hyderabad, not Chennai, as should have been the case ordinarily. An industry source says the trailer of the movie went through eight censor cuts in Chennai. The filmmakers, who feared the film would be cut, reportedly decided not to produce the film for certification in Chennai.


A.M. Rathnam's influence?

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However, Boys has tanked at the box office. "We thought after the failure of Rajni's [Ranijikanth] Baba, Shankar would revive the industry. Not only has he not helped, he has also taken Tamil filmdom to new depths. Now, it has suddenly become the target of derision and possible contempt," says a film veteran.


Good.


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It all depends on what they classify it as. Under rules which were changed 2 to 3 years back, a film needs to be certified only once. So they may have called it a telugu film and got it censored at Hyderabad. Dubbing into any other language doesnt need recensoring.


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jag wrote:
It all depends on what they classify it as. Under rules which were changed 2 to 3 years back, a film needs to be certified only once. So they may have called it a telugu film and got it censored at Hyderabad. Dubbing into any other language doesnt need recensoring.

Don't all films have to be classified in the state of the original language? So even a Tamil film dubbed in Telugu would still have to be certified in Madras.


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True. But since they made both the versions at same time - even reshooting some portions wherever they have tamil or telugu signs and they declared it as a bilinguall - they can technically call it a telugu film. How do you define the original language? I guess they rely on the producer's word - which I am sure changes by convenience


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jag wrote:
True. But since they made both the versions at same time - even reshooting some portions wherever they have tamil or telugu signs and they declared it as a bilinguall - they can technically call it a telugu film.

Hmm...I thought the Telugu version was just dubbed from Tamil and not a separate version. Or are you saying that only the shots with Tamil signs on them were reshot with Telugu signs? If that is the case, that's a poor excuse for calling a film "bilingual." In any case, the production of this film was such a mess that shooting in two languages would have made it more complicated.




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"We did not expect Sujatha to write such dirty and double-meaning lines. Not at his age,"


Sujatha is a dude?!!!!? : :laugh:


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Another cheap shot. Shankar is a cheapo commercial director. He doesn't have the artistic licence to do this. And god, will someone tell the Indians to go easy on their so-called 'special effects'?


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Boyz was a shite film, but I do admire Shankar for breaking the trend of conventional Indian cinema, by introducing the casual conversation of sex from a bunch of 15 - 18 year olds.

If Shankar had shot the film on a lower budget and deleated all the melodrama & Special fx crap in the second half I rekon the film could have been a totally cool movie...

The film belongs solely to the young actors, who do have talent, and to Rahman for his phat background score...

Still there is always Thullamo Ellamai, which I think is the best Indian teen flick of all time!


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Shahran Sunny Audit wrote:
Boyz was a shite film, but I do admire Shankar for breaking the trend of conventional Indian cinema, by introducing the casual conversation of sex from a bunch of 15 - 18 year olds.

If Shankar had shot the film on a lower budget and deleated all the melodrama & Special fx crap in the second half I rekon the film could have been a totally cool movie...

The film belongs solely to the young actors, who do have talent, and to Rahman for his phat background score...

Still there is always Thullamo Ellamai, which I think is the best Indian teen flick of all time!

It's weird that Boys breaks the trend of Indian films with a teenage cast and sex talk while simultaneously embracing the worst Indian film conventions. I loved the beginning of the film. It was light and funny. But after that it turned incredibly depressing for this type of film, especially the end. Was that one tragic event necessary?

I also liked the gradual progression of the characters towards fame, with the recording of the Ayyapan cassette. This section was again light and humorous, but being duped into writing a revolutionary anti-government song was incredibly stupid. The self-referential moment where we see the billboards for Boys (when they get the record contract) and the CDs being pressed was typical of Tamil films, in which there are often self-referential jokes or references to other films, such as the boys singing "Sabari Malai" to the tune of "Marutha Malai" from Chocklet.

Shankar's films would be better if he directed good scripts written by others. Though his direction sometimes is as subtle as a sledgehammer, he has extracted good performances from the new actors in Boys. I wonder how much technical credit we should give to Shankar's cinematographers, since they seem to do good work with or without him.

Sunny, any word on whether Thulluvatho Illamai will be released on DVD? Did Ayngaran ever release that 2-CD set of Boys with background score? All I've seen are one or two Ramiy and Ayngaran CDs with Boys and some other film.

I saw a trailer for another AM Rathnam film, Enakku 18 Unakku 20, with Trisha, and two Telugu actors, Tarun and Shriya. Looked like another silly film, but I'm interested in hearing ARR's music for it.




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