ok guys,
what should we do in order to get the indian dvd quality up to the standards?
i mean, we have given these indian dvd companies a great chance, a very long time to improve their dvd quality by doing quality transfers, but all we have so far is mediocre to very poor quality in most cases, and it is only getting worse as time goes on
i mean what the hell is up with eros, in their dvd's trailor of the movie would have very good quality but the feature itself would be absolutely dark, lifeless!!!
this is rediculous!!!!!!!!!!!
only dei have come close to making very good indian dvd's but they are not detail oriented at all, i mean they do sloppy job of using digital filtering, why can they not get it straightened out, i mean they have the equipment why don't they use it carefully to produce an excellent quality dvd
lately they have also been going down the hill, more toward like YRF/SD quality
there is not a single reference quality indian dvd out there, don't you guys think we should have one by now
seems like majority of indian audience do not care or they just put up with it, which is really a shame
well i can't take it any more, b/c all these companies (dei, YSF, SD, VS, eros, spark) have means to give us good quality dvd's but they decide to always give us very poor ones, b/c they know that nobody is going to do anything about it
well that is going to change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok what are your thoughts:
should all of us send them e-mails on regular basis until they respond and give us what we demand?
i want to keep this a peaceful process as long as we can
i hope we all get together on this effort, b/c this should be a group effort
lets join

Unfortunately what you say is very true - majority of people couldn’t care less about quality. To make quality DVDs takes money, time and effort which none of the Indian DVD labels do. Why would they when they sell the crapper stuff?

Eros are not interested listening – I remember they had a guest book for feedback on their new website – that got bombarded with message of how poor quality their DVDs are. So instead of responding positively they took down the guestbook, so people couldn’t read what people thought about their DVDs.

Yash Raj Films in the past have said they’ll look into changing authors – even consider going with DEI. Nothing happened, its all talk.

Video Sound – is in total gaga land (or is it cockoo land! ). They don’t want to listen and everything they do is right. One of the person once emailed me from Video Sound after I said their version of HDDCS was crap compared to DEI one. The reply said they really ‘appreciated DEI quality’ but their ‘market research’ indicated people prefer cropped video (with of course crap video to go with it :rolleyes: )

DEI – one lie after the other. Give out so much misinformation its unbelievable. Their inability to hold down a DVD deal is legendary beyond belief. And more recently have joined the ranks of Eros, Video Sound and YRF. They have two new film releases coming up which will be a big telling sign - Haan...Maine Bhi Pyaar Kiya and Yeh Dil Aashiqana – I hope for their sake these DVDs are good. Views from people about their old films have dropped; Bees Saal Baad and Kohinoor being the new low from DEI. But if anything there's still hope from DEI as they have proved in the past they have the ability to make good DVDs - maybe it's just bad times for them at the moment.

..and there’s outside interest from likes of Colombia Tristar and Metrodome with Lagaan and Asoka DVDs – which is only the last prayer left. You might be better of firing emails to these guys in a last ditch attempt to get them to adopt more Indian film titles than banging you’re head against the wall with Eros, YRF, VS an DEI.

Ali

Ali,
Take a breathe now, well said. Hurrah for piracy!

Not yet! Now that you’ve mentioned it - most of the excuses relating to poor quality is because of piracy, so these guys will tell you, but reality is that they talk utter crap! And from views of the people here - poor quality from them is why people choose to buy pirates.

Deep breath and out... :sleep:

Ali

If you fall for that excuse then you are dummer than I thought. Like I always said, the assholes only have greed in their minds and still thinks we have a sub-servient attiude and
will readily accept any shit they throw at us. INSULENT DOGS!

I emailed YashRajFilms the USA office and if I get reply it will be posted in here. So now we wait and see.

The only thing we can do is to try and make them realize that they stand to lose MONEY if they do not improve their quality. This can only be achieved if we can make them understands that their poor quality DVDs actually promote piracy of their products.

We should also try and start writing in to the directors and stars involved with the films and point out to them how shabbily their work is being archived in history by the shoody DVDs being produced. I realize that most Bollywood people eg. David Dhawan etc don't know the meaning of art or quality cinema and therefore would probably give a damn about the DVD quality. But even then I am sure there a few artistes and directors who do care about their work and how it is presented. If we can somehow involve them, I am sure we would stand a much better chance of getting these companies to produce half decent DVDs. I am sure if we could actually reach 'Yash Chopra' and/or Aditya Chopra and point out to how it is their work which is being presented poorly, they might just actually do something about it.

DVD's are fast replacing VHS and there's a wild rush to get those shiny disc's. At times many folks who buy DVD's of their fav movies without realizing the quality & technical aspects of DVD's. About 85%-90% Desi's are totally oblivious to technical aspects of DVD's and this is the group which is being targeted by DEI,EROS,YRF,BABA,Videosound & others to make a quick buck. Many of these folks don't know the difference bewteen a legit or a pirated version. So if these companies can earn devilish profits from this targeted group so why the hell they are going to listen 10% of us demanding quality.

We all know DVD's which are being sold for 10 to 16 buck are ususally produced for less than 5 bucks. Forget about reference quality DVD but just to find a decent Desi DVD is fast becoming like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

These companies are running like wild dogs and breeding like crazy & to get them neutered will take an act of God. So in the mean time what one can do, for me I ususally try to rent DVD's before buying but other's may not have this option so unfortunatley theres not a lot one can do except keep the pressure up,avoid bad DVD's like plauge,educate others by posting at site like Zulm.

For me buying pirated DVD's is not an option as at times I feel companies like EROS,DEI,YRF are behind marketing pirated DVD's as what wouldn't they do to make a quick buck first put out pirated DVD's and then turn around and release the same crap under DEI,EROS or YRF lables so they get both heads & tails of a coin.

In one of my earlier posts I called folks from DEI,EROS,YRF & others Mahachors & Pocket maar's but now I call them grave robbers as now they are using dead & buried prints for their transfers.

lakeshore



Edited By lakeshore on Jan. 23 2002 at 01:03

- boycott bad DVDs, rent only if you must
- buy good DVDs
- talk to people you know are interested in Indian DVDs and
show them how poor most DVDs are. Ask them not buy such
poor DVDs. Show them good ones to buy instead.
- Write to producers, directors etc. and complain about the
situation.
- Write reviews and warn the rest of the world about bad
DVDs if you have the necessary equipment and knowledge to
do so.
- for rich people only: Buy some rights and make good DVDs
yourself, exposing the junk dealers as what they are.

MH

MH unfortunatley many Indian producers,directors,writers don't care about quality of DVD's presenting their movies. When they didn't care how their work was presented on VHS why would they care how it appears on DVD's. This is the big difference bewteen Hollywood & Bollywood guys. So many Indian classics have been messed up by YRF,DEI & others but not a peep from these guys or studios associated with these movies. I have yet to come across any posts from producers,writers,directors or stars raising concerns over quality of DVD's.

lakeshore



Edited By lakeshore on Jan. 23 2002 at 01:05

I think we need a concerted group effort on this one. Dare I be frank but a time consuming effort in contacting all the influential people out there... we need some kind of a campaign to get them to buck up there ideas. Question is how? since I doubt we will boycott crap dvd\good movie combinations.


ps. campaign to get SRK to cut his hair may also be required.