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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:50 pm 
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Abhijeet wants Adnan to quit

Playback singer Abhijeet has demanded that pop star Adnan Sami be banned from the music scene in India since he is a Pakistani. Abhijeet voiced his dissent against Adnan when he met former Bihar Chief Minister Laloo Prasad Yadav in Patna. According to Abhijeet, when Indian artistes are not allowed to perform in Pakistan how come a Pakistani be given royal treatment here? He also cited several cases of Indian artistes being treated shabbily by the Pakistani authorities. He asked Laloo Yadav to ask Adnan to leave the country. It is learnt that Adnan is not a Pakistani citizen. He holds a British passport and applied for Indian citizenship two years ago.


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I read this news article somewhere... Not only abhijeet but also Anup Jalota, Shakti Samanta and others signed the petition and sent it to the govt. ! With the current state of affairs, I think something might happen.


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here's Abhijeet writing a full length article in the Hindustan Times as to the hows and whys.....it does appear to be a case of professional insecurity on his part...

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Aarkayne, while Adnan Sami can be excused (hell he is panned by hiw own "countrymen".. read the letters published in the DAWN, JANG and Daily Times.. you will see that readers in Pakistan are spewing venom on him for singing a song for the Indian Cricket Team (their enemny) while being the son of a Pakistani air-force officer).

But on the flip side u cannot discount the fact that the points they have raised need some consideration. Pakistani singers, believe it or not, need the Indian market (1 billion+) to further their career ... Who knew abt Nazia Hasan (again a borderline case.. she was a Brit like Adnan Sami and a Pakistani later on), before she was spotted by Bidu and had that memorable number "Aap Jaisa Koi mere..".. It flourished in the Indian market.

I have a lurking suscpicion that, all the Pakistani singers, might soon face problems if they ever plan trips to India, as the atmosphere has become too acerbic and they may not receive a warm welcome (added to the fact that you have the BJP in the Govt.) .. What this might do is drive all their music from the shelves to the black market (something what is happening to Indian films and Music in Pakistan)... The effect is minimal for India, but this may spell trouble for budding Pakistani talent, as they will be deprived of a flourishing market...

I still remember the warm reception JUNOON had received when they performed in Bangalore a couple of years back. We had cheered for them as they were playing Sayonee... Would that happen now in India ?.. I dont think so... Added to the fact that this letter has been published in all the leading newspapers of India, even more unlikely.

Which again brings me to a point... Cultural collaboration between India and its neighbours goes in (Eg. Bangladesh and India... esp Bengali films)... Nepal & India (Manisha Koirala and her brother who will follow her)... inspite of all the political differences. But when it comes to Pakistan, it's a whole new Ball Game altogether !


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:18 am 
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Here is the article :-
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_213833,0030.htm

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For the past several days I have been in the spotlight for protesting against Pakistani artistes performing in India. Instead of supporting a patriot and a nationalist, a section of the media has accused me of ‘being jealous’ of the success of my Pakistani rivals.

It pains me to see a large section of influential people genuflecting before Pakistan, a country that considers India an enemy state. A few years ago when Pakistani singer Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan was the rage in India, he accused an Indian composer of lifting his tune for the hit song Tu cheez badi hai mast mast. The media gave wide coverage to his comments. But when renowned Indian composer Khayyam protested, saying it was an old folk tune and did not belong to Khan, the same media did not find it worth reporting. Indians made Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan famous but he in turn only abused our music industry.

I have nothing personal against Pakistani artistes and hold most of them in great respect — I have even touched Ghulam Ali’s feet. What I am trying to say is that when Pakistan has banned our artistes from performing in their country, why should we Indians give their artistes a red carpet welcome? Both countries do not play cricket matches against one other on their soils. Our television channels and films are banned in Pakistan. And every time one country sends back the other’s envoy, there is retaliation from the other side. Then why don’t we retaliate when Pakistan insults our performers and asks them to leave their country?

There have been innumerable instances of Pakistan humiliating our esteemed artistes. Jagjit Singh was asked to stop his ghazal recital mid-way and composers Laxmikant-Pyarelal, who had visited Pakistan to attend a marriage, were asked to return from the immigration itself. Even qawwali singer Akhtar Azad who had been invited by Pakistan to take part in a mushaira was later not allowed to perform because he was Indian. These are just a few cases that I am aware of. And what do we do in return? Welcome their artistes with open arms! Mehdi Hasan, Abida Parveen, Reshma, Adnan Sami, actresses Zeba Bakhtiyar, Somy Ali, Salma Agha… The list goes on. The achievements of our stars have never been highlighted on Pakistani television whereas our channels are busy promoting their talent.

In the US, Pakistanis taunt us saying the Indian music industry would have been bankrupt by now had it not been for Pakistani artistes. They keep on accusing us of lifting their tunes and never fail to rub in that their stars have kept our industry alive. On the other hand we in India love to insult our own stars. Look at what we did to Salman Khan. People die in accidents everyday — he did not deliberately murder anyone but the media did not spare any effort to humiliate him. But when it comes to artistes from an enemy state, we fall over each other to please them.

It’s true that the citizens of Pakistan love our films and our artistes. I would love to perform for them provided it’s a public show and not something done in hiding.

Here I would like to say that I am not challenging Pakistan’s policy vis-à-vis India. They are doing just the right thing. For Pakistan, India is an enemy state and they treat us the way enemies should be treated. It is the Indian Government’s policy that I am questioning. When Lata Mangeshkar has never been granted a visa to perform in Pakistan, why is the government considering granting citizenship to Pakistanis? Huge sums of money are paid to these artistes. It is alleged that the payments are made through hawala. Do the citizens of this country not have have the right to know the mode of payment? Especially since the government has come down with a heavy hand on Indian film producers with alleged mafia links. Are we not funding Pakistan? And how does it matter when a Pakistani artiste denies his roots saying he has settled in the West. He/she is originally a Pakistani and that is what matters.

When it comes to our artistes and channels, Pakistan calls them part of a ‘cultural raid’. But I would call what they are doing to our country a ‘cultural rape’. It’s a conspiracy. In the guise of artistes, they are destroying our industry and promoting their own. And we Indians are just helping them succeed in their designs. Switch on any channel and you will find a Pakistani artiste there. They are there all over, in TV shows, commercials, mingling and dancing with our film stars. We are bending over backwards to help them destroy us.

I want to create awareness among Indians, give them a wake-up call before it is too late. But if the citizens of this country do not support me, I will think that I wasted my time doing my bit for my country. The next time there our political leaders talk about desh-bhakti, I will take it with a pinch of salt.

What I find most painful in this entire episode is the attitude of a section of the media and our music industry. I am doing whatever I think is right at the cost of my livelihood, as a duty towards my country. These same people will cross over to my side if I am proved right tomorrow. Only a handful of Indian artistes have stood by me because they understand the seriousness of the issue.

India is increasingly facing Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. After the Kargil war, I had performed for a fund-raising event for the army men’s widows. Our boys died out there fighting for India’s honour and sovereignty. Today we are honouring the same enemy. I cannot even explain how I feel. Do we not owe anything to our martyrs? My head hangs in shame at our attitude.


Wow someone actually defending Salman Khan !


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Laloo still minister after stealing fodder from poor cows?


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Laloos wife Rabri is the official CM although it is widely known that Laloo still runs the sarkar.


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all this is very well BUT at the end of the day adnan sami and the others are contributing to India's economy be it through legal or illegal methods ie orignals or pirates !!!

as far as i can see if the indian govt is happy for them to make money for the country then so be it its seems to be Pakistan loss !!!

so those that are disputing this should either put up or shut up !!!


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I confess I have never understood people who want to protest what they consider an unjust policy by adopting that same unjust policy themselves!

I say let India continue to try to be an example of open-ness and democracy - it will only be for the good.

(Although Laloo and democracy in the same thread does seem oxymoronic...)


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Although I don't like to get into this kind of stuff, Abhijeet does seem to have a point. But I believe this is were India shows their superiority to the enemy by allowing cultural exchanges freely. Pakistan shouldn't be our competition as an example of democracy; it's the case where if they jump down the toilet, should we too? India doesn't need to respond to Pakistan's democratic standards, rather we need to set our own. So I see no problem in allowing Pakistani artistes to perform freely in India. If Pakistan doesn't allow the same, it's their loss. I just don't understand why we have to match them in stupidity. I hate it when they bring politics into entertainment and sports.


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MalFUnXiON wrote:
Although I don't like to get into this kind of stuff, Abhijeet does seem to have a point.

Notwithstanding the high moral ground, I would say Abhijeet is saying the very same things, I had stated sometime back (vis-a-vis Pakistani goods, services and products). You can call entertainment also as a service !
MalFunXion... consider this scenario.. It is Fact and not a secret that Pakistani sponsored terrorism is the bane of India and that is what Abhijeet has tried to point out. Now I presume, the Pakistani artists are loyal tax-paying citizens. So naturally they would be paying taxes to their Govt. Now they earn large sums of money from audio royalties in India, as well as money from musical tours. The money they earn (as Abhijeet has pointed out) is paid by Indians... Now when the govt. of Pakistan collects Taxes, it is channeled to you-know-where... (JeM, LeT, HuM etc. etc. and what not)..
So Abhijeet has a very valid point, indeed...
You cannot have musical interludes with your neigbours (read enemies), when you are battling them somewhere else !
What say you MalFunXion ? :O


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sknath wrote:
Now I presume, the Pakistani artists are loyal tax-paying citizens. So naturally they would be paying taxes to their Govt.

So when they ask for Indian citizenship, grant them the same....especially in the case of Adnan Sami....thus the tax monies fill the Indian coffers.....and in case they indulge in any hanky-panky (we can certainly depend on the right-royal Abhijeet to provide us proof of the same, since he seems to have total grasp of the hawala route etc.), we put them in Tihar along with the likes of Charles Sobhraj.....thus completing the saying...."Laathi bhi na toote, aur saanp bhi mar jaaye"....i quite like the ring to that......


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Come on..why should India restrict anyone? It is free country...


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Aarkayne wrote:
sknath wrote:
Now I presume, the Pakistani artists are loyal tax-paying citizens. So naturally they would be paying taxes to their Govt.

So when they ask for Indian citizenship, grant them the same....especially in the case of Adnan Sami....thus the tax monies fill the Indian coffers.....and in case they indulge in any hanky-panky (we can certainly depend on the right-royal Abhijeet to provide us proof of the same, since he seems to have total grasp of the hawala route etc.), we put them in Tihar along with the likes of Charles Sobhraj.....thus completing the saying...."Laathi bhi na toote, aur saanp bhi mar jaaye"....i quite like the ring to that......

Aarkayne... read the statements I posted earlier... Adnan can be excused... he willingly wanted to become a citizen of India :)... Though I cannot say the same abt the others !

*Congress* .... :angry:


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People like Abhijeet will turn India into another Pakistan. India is a free country and banning a musician/singer like Adnan Sami sends the wrong signal about India's democracy. If India sees that he is worthy of citizenship and is going to contribute to the economy in some way, grant him the citizenship. Before being a British citizen, and before being a Pakistani, before being someone who is genetically Indian and speaks the same language as most Indians, he is a talented musician and singer.


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