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bhaskar
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 9:55 am 
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Vikram Bhatt as best director, Nadeem Shravan for best music.... :baaa: :stupid:

http://www.indiafm.com/scoop/03/jan/060 ... ndex.shtml
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Zoran009
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hollyshit, iss admi ko halka kutta kaat gaya hai!!!

Thats why he is also known as MORON!
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shuman
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vikram bhatt? and best director.. this guy cannot be sober.
VB isn't all that bad, but isn't that good to be called 'best'.
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sknath
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Geez.. Vikram Bhatt and a director... He is at best a pathetic piece of cheapo... who needs his Hollywood films to complete any film he directs...

On the river Front - Ghulam (Marlon Brando vs Aamir Khan)
Jagged Edge - (Glenn Close vs Lisa Ray)
What lies beneath - Raaz (Harrison Ford/Michelle Pffeifer vs Dino Morea/Bipasha Basu)

The whole 9 yards - Awaara Paagal Deewana(Bruce willis / Akshay Kumar)...

What this joker needs is public disgrace and humiliation ! :angry:
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BIGvcr
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awaara paagal deewana : best action ???????????????

he's realy a donkey

he must say the most SILLY action scenes



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kamran
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Biggest hit - Raaz.

I think it's quite pathetic that he still maintains that Devdas is an average grosser just to save face. I think it's much more noble to admit you're wrong and then move on.
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Sanjay
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By Taran Adarsh

Biggest Hit : Raaz

Best Director : Vikram Bhatt (Raaz, Awara Paagal Deewana) & Rajkumar Santoshi (The Legend of Bhagat Singh)

Best Actor : Ajay Devgan (The Legend of Bhagat Singh & Company)

Best Actress : Aishwarya Rai (Devdas)

Notice his list states "Biggest Hit" not 'Best Film" that in itself shold tell you lots about this guys priorities. He is no better than a whore, for all he cares about is the money and success, so typical of Bollywood.
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sknath
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Sanjay wrote:
He is no better than a whore,

Sanjay you mean a Gigolo... ala Deuce Bigalow the Male Gigalow :D
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congress
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I still don't know why in India a commercially successful film is considered a good film. I think if Lagaan was a flop, people would called it a bad film. Consider this a lot of people think Judaai is a better film than Dil Se, just because it was a hit.
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DragunR2
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congress wrote:
I still don't know why in India a commercially successful film is considered a good film. I think if Lagaan was a flop, people would called it a bad film. Consider this a lot of people think Judaai is a better film than Dil Se, just because it was a hit.

That is how it is in the US too. But at least here, there are some really good critics who recognize that some popular films are bad films and some limited release films are good films. If some critic put Spiderman on a top 10 list of the year's best films, he would be called an idiot.
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Sanjay
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DragunR2 wrote:
If some critic put Spiderman on a top 10 list of the year's best films, he would be called an idiot.

The problem is that in India, the critics (or so called critics) are all a bunch of illiterate buffoons who would not know a good film if it hit them smakc in the face. Not only to Indians but to almost all Indian critics (the so called ones) success at the box office is the only barometer of the film being good or bad.
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sknath
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Sanjay wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
If some critic put Spiderman on a top 10 list of the year's best films, he would be called an idiot.

The problem is that in India, the critics (or so called critics) are all a bunch of illiterate buffoons who would not know a good film if it hit them smakc in the face. Not only to Indians but to almost all Indian critics (the so called ones) success at the box office is the only barometer of the film being good or bad.

Sanjay... in India there are a few seasoned critics also...

Take for example... Bhavna Sowamayya & Khalid Mohammed... I would say KM's reviews are the best that India can have !

Fiza was a flop film.... but i would say it was a very thought provoking film .... much better than that year's super hit film KNPH !
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rana
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We may or may not agree with Taran's Picks. Not every body thinks the same or likes the same things. As the title says, these are Taran's Picks.

On a side note, there can be no argument on his Box Office Barometer for the Year 2002.

http://www.indiafm.com/scoop/03/jan/060 ... ndex.shtml

By Taran Adarsh

A11 (Super Duper Hit) : -

A1 (Super Hit) :
Raaz

A (Hit) :
Devdas
Ek Chhotisi Love Story

+B (Overflow) :
Awara Paagal Deewana (in Mumbai, Delhi-U.P.; ‘Good B’ elsewhere)
Deewangee (in Mumbai; ‘Good B’ to ‘B’ elsewhere)
Die Another Day (Dubbed)
Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam (in Delhi-U.P., Bihar, Rajasthan, Nizam)
Humraaz (in some circuits)
Kaante (in some circuits)
Spider-Man (Dubbed)
16 December
The Guru (Dubbed; in Mumbai, Delhi-U.P.)
Yeh Dil Aashiqanaa (in Delhi-U.P., Bihar, Punjab, C.P. Berar)
XXX (Dubbed)

Good B (Commission/Overflow) :
Mere Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai (in some circuits)
Men In Black II (Dubbed)
Saathiya (in some circuits)

B (Coverage/Commission) : -

Mixed Response :
Aankhen
American Desi (partly Hindi)
Company
Dil Hai Tumhaara
Kya Yehi Pyaar Hai
Leela (partly Hindi)
Makdee
Maine Dil Tujhko Diya
Na Tum Jaano Na Hum

Rana

P.S.
One must admit, the biggest profit margin was given by the movie Raaz in 2002 and hence is # 1 Box Office Success.
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Sanjay
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sknath wrote:
Sanjay... in India there are a few seasoned critics also...

Take for example... Bhavna Sowamayya & Khalid Mohammed... I would say KM's reviews are the best that India can have !

Fiza was a flop film.... but i would say it was a very thought provoking film .... much better than that year's super hit film KNPH !

I am sure there are a couple of decent critics in India but they are way outnumbered by the quacks of cinema. As for Khalid Mohammed and Fiza, my opinion is that the film was good in bits and parts. You could see the potential in parts of the film but overall it was a pretty hackneyed job. Khalid must have had a totally different set of standards for his reviews because the blatant compromises and crass comercialization of a potentially great script was very evident from the final cut of Fiza. The whole Karishma love angle including the boring and tedious songs were absolutely unneccesary in the film. What I specially cannot understand is why the crappy disco song was included in the film, after all not only was the song totally out of place in the film but it was a rank bad song. As great as the Hrithik training scenes might have looked, can someone explain why he was training so hard when all he had to do was sniper practise for the job at hand. The fact of the matter is that the story of the film ended when Karishma finds her brother, was'nt the catch phrase of the film "In search of her brother" or somethign to that effect? The rest of the film was just stretched to justify Hrithik's star status and to make up the mandatory minimum 150 minutes of a Hindi film.

It is sad to see that so many decent films with a lot of potential getting screwed up just because the directors/producers don't have the conviction to just make a product they believe in. The funny part is then they wonder why the film failed. I'll tell you why it failed, because when you make a decent film but end up compromising it, you no longer have an audience for it. The regular hindi movie audience (the so called masses) does not want a good, decent and/or different film and the audience that does, will not tolerate compromise. I am a firm believer in that if Bollywood made different films, but without compromising, the rate of success of Hindi films would be much higher than what it is today. Don't you think that someone ought to be able to figure out something must be wrong when your true and tried methods only achieve a success rate of around 5% Can you imagine any other industry and field of life where the success rate was so pathetic and the people from that industry have the gall to walk around with an air about them as if they were all so great.

Ok, I think I should stop now. :) Hmm I wonder where that came from.
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sknath
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Sanjay..Do you read the film reviews in Stardust ? Its been ages since I read a stardust mag. How do you find the reviews there ?... And Cine Blitz and Femina ?... I remember Bhavana Somayya once made a very critical review of a film in the magazine "G"... I forget which film it was... But i followed up her reviews with responses from readers and they literally barraged her with comments.... ( clearly it goes to show their inbuilt biases).. but surprisingly that film actually did flop !
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