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scarface786
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As we're all getting to know each other, I was just wondering what religion you all are?

I'm a Muslim.
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darius25
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I'm Hindu, but I believe in all religions.
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urbanlegend
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Muslim but respect all others...
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am a muslim
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Sanjay
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Hindu by birth, but personally I don't believe in any form of organized religion. I was raised to believe that all relegions pray to the same god, we just have different names for him and different ways to pray to him.
'There is no greater religion than humanity itself'.



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Zoran009
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I second, sanjay on that!!!so no need to say any thing further!!

I am a just a, humble, ordinary human! who just only try to be good!!if possible!
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theon
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i'm a christian. although i believe you run into a lot of philosophical problems if you "believe in all religions," i try to learn from other religions.
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sknath
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theon wrote:
i'm a christian. although i believe you run into a lot of philosophical problems if you "believe in all religions," i try to learn from other religions.

Theon well as you have stated ur religion let me ask you something.... are you a catholic ?, Protestant ?...or... what :)

Oh & BTW... what sayeth you abt the "crisis" in the Catholic church and all those sex-scandals ! etc. !

I am a non-believer (agnostic) as of today (have been that way since 1999)... though I was born a hindu, and was presented with the teachings from the Bible (Baptist Missionary) for 13 years during my primary and high school
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Another question theon which I would like to ask you.... sometime later in ur life u plan to get married (if u are not married already)... will u proselythise ur spouse to Christianity ? !
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pardesi
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Iam Buddhist but believe in Ravindranath Tagore's philosphy
that all the religions are rays of sunshine coming through the different holes in the basket.
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Mr_Khiladi
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darius25 wrote:
I'm Hindu, but I believe in all religions.

Just wondering, how can you truely believe in all religions? It's not possible. You can respect and learn from other religions and you may even see some unity amongst them, but you can't really believe in all religions.

theon I understand where you're coming from when you say you run into alot of philosophical problems when 'trying to' believe in all religions.

I myself am Hindu (by birth and by choice). I believe all religious teach common values, but I don't believe in all religions.
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Let me narrate an anecdote here.

In a similar animated discussion about the various paths and teachings to reach salvation or whatchamacallit a friend told us of his mother who was visiting from India. She was born and raised in a remote & rural part of India. She had not travelled much till she came to visit her son here in the USA. She was not very literate and yet her grasp of all things worldy was innately amazing.

Once my friend took her alongwith his young daughters (US born and bred) to visit the Cathedral of St.Paul near downtown St. Paul. It is a magnificent structure built along the lines of the original cathedral in Rome(i believe). It is the place that most visitors to the Twin Cities go to without fail.

As soon as this old lady stepped into the structure, without inhibitions she flung herself in front of the statue of the Virgin Mary and paid her obeisance. The young granddaughter was surprised and asked her in obvious bewilderment,

'But then grandma, are you not a staunch <whatever it was her faith>?'.

To which she replied in the affirmative, to which the young girl further posed,

'Then how can you do this?'

The old lady then asked her granddaughter back,

'Tell me how did you go to school today?'

'In Dad's Toyota' replied the youngster,

'And y'day?', queried the lady,

'In mom's Honda', answered the young lady,

'I see. So you were dropped by different people in different cars to the same spot.', continued the old lady.

'Similarly i think there are many ways to get to the abode of the one above, does not mean one is better or worse than the other', clinched the lady the discussion.

If this reads like a typical Reader's Digest tale, let me assure you it is not. This really happened with my friend and his mother. I wish if we were all half as educated as this illiterate person from rural India, we would not be having a tenth the problems we currently face.

I do not mean to sound a pompous ass patronising anyone, but truly felt I should share this with y'all.

Cheers.
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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
darius25 wrote:
I'm Hindu, but I believe in all religions.

Just wondering, how can you truely believe in all religions? It's not possible. You can respect and learn from other religions and you may even see some unity amongst them, but you can't really believe in all religions.

Ok, I'm Hindu by birth but am not a devout follower. I eat meat (actually it's a must for me!), drink and do all kinds of stuff that i guess conservative hindus aren't supposed to do. However even though I may be wrong (and I know that) I CHOOSE to believe in fate and god and a higher being... Meaning on some days I believe in god, bhagwan, allah, Jesus and on other days I just believe it's my luck.

However seeing as I'm confused as hell, why shouldn't I believe in all religions. I mean I don't know whether bhagwan exists, or god or allah. And if I chose to believe that my god exists then you should choose to believe whether or not your god exists. And what gives me the right to decide who's wrong and who's right.

I don't think about the technicalities or contradictions - I just believe that everyone's right and don't worry about anything else. Cause if when you start worrying, then you seriously get fucked!! and shit like Sept. 11 happens!!!

So politics aside (i don't believe in harming people due to religion or politics or any other nonsense excuse), yeah I just want to say that yeah everyone's right.

Instead of arguing over religion we should band together and fight the people who most deserve our hate - Indian dvd makers :D :D :D :D
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i'm loving this thread since i'm studying philosophy and religion!

sknath: i am a protestant, who believes that those sex abusers should be punished as other sex abusers are; no one forced them to be a priest. it is really sad that people who are supposed to be close to god, are doing these things. and by agnostic, do you mean that you do not know if there is a god, or do you believe that one cannot know if there is a god? as for my marriage plans, i'm not married, and if i did marry a non-christian, i would not proselytise my spouse (if by "proselytise" you mean "force them to convert").

and darius25, it doesn't sound like you are "believing in all religions." it more sounds like you're confused what to believe, so you figure you'll believe every religion is true. here's where problems arise since religions contradict, and they can't both be literally true at the same time. only if you believe religions teach symbolic truths and not literal truths can you hold such a position, which leads to further problems...

and i don't see the logical connection between people believing their religion is true, and things like sept. 11. only if a religion says something like "kill all who don't believe in religion X" can something like that happen, and i'm confident not too many people follow this kind of religion. i just don't see why arguing/worrying about religious truth should necessarily lead to violence.
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theon wrote:
and if i did marry a non-christian, i would not proselytise my spouse (if by "proselytise" you mean "force them to convert").

hey theon that is wonderful quite wonderful indeed. However what i meant was not proselythise as practised by the hordes of muslims who descended onto different parts of the world.. or the Crusaders of Christianity who shed so much blood in propagating their faith...
What I meant was.... would you accept someone from a different faith, without resorting to "emotional blackmail" (cos i have tried unsuccessfully but have not been able to meet gals from religions other than Hinduism (as whether i like it or not..I have to live with it) who are willing to share a life with ppl from other religions.... at least amongst the desis here in Canada ( I presume you are in Canada as well...)

So Theon... you a protestant... If someone were to ask me what religions I follow closely I would say Judaism, Buddhism and Christianity (protestant... though I abhor the tele-vangelists...)... I admire the Dalai Lama and if someday I were to convert my religion I would choose Buddhism or Judaism....

I was a firm believer in the lord almighty as we define it (i would prefer not give it a gender here).... Used to be apart of my school choir for 7 years..so I can say I am very weel versed with Biblical studies..(more than the scriptures in Hinduism.. however i participated in all the religious festivals proscribed in Hindusim with equal fervour)... But due to some unforseen incidents in my life i completely gave up my faith..and turned my attention towards something else..in life....

We tend to take many things in life for granted..like the food we eat, the air we breathe, the books we study...etc. I have a few idols in my life ( some very close family members who are no more with me)..and i consider them as my guding force...thats how i became an agnostic in not subscribing to the traditional notions of god... but having my own set of beliefs vis-a-vis "God" (almighty) etc. The food i eat everyday, the water I drink... is "GOD" for me, rather than an idol or praying to someone i dont know.... Here I would like to add that I dont disparage others religious beliefs but just choose to be different... and like you

I do disagree with practices in religions which subscribe to use of force and killings...
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wow, an indian interested in judaism, who would've thought!

as for this "emotional blackmail" i'm not sure what you mean, but i sincerely hope i wouldn't use any sort of blackmail when it comes to religion, and especially when it comes to a spouse! and as for the question on whether i'd marry someone of a different faith, the answer is yes. the problem is, when marrying outside of one's religion, one not only has to worry about the partner, but the partner's family, one's own family etc. and by the way, i also share your dislike of tele-vangelists as they promote a version of christianity which is far from "true christianity," and make others think we christians are crazy.

although i'm sympathetic with your turning away from traditional religions due to circumstances in your life, i don't think your substitute is adequate. though food, water, and all those other things that sustain you in day to day life are important, i don't see how they can answer questions of meaning, origin, morality and your final destination. i suspect there is much more to your untraditional view than what you have mentioned.
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