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dograk
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Asif Kapadia's The Warrier has been disqualified for submittion into the race of Foreign Language Film for Academy Awards. Since the films language spoken is in "Hindi", the academy disqalified the film because it isn't the origin language of Great Britian(Welsh). Instead, the official selection of the UK has now come to director Tim Lyn for his film "Eldra".

Official competition & screenings of the official 54 films from around the world begins within the next few weeks. Good Luck to Devdas!

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rana
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This is totally unfair.

What category do they have for this kind of film?

If they don't have any category for this film, they must create one.

Why can't Non Resident Indians/ Pakistanis/ Chinese/ Japanese/ ------, living in any country, make a film in a language of their choice and also compete for the oscars?

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Sanjay
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rana wrote:
This is totally unfair.

What category do they have for this kind of film?

If they don't have any category for this film, they must create one.

Why can't Non Resident Indians/ Pakistanis/ Chinese/ Japanese/ ------, living in any country, make a film in a language of their choice and also compete for the oscars?

Rana

"The Warrior" qualifies to be entered from India. But that ain't about to happen anytime soon, and I don't mean specifically just "The Warrior" but about all films not made by the idiots of mainstream Mumbai films. Monsoon Wedding pretty much did nto get entered for this particular reason.
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DragunR2
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Sanjay wrote:
"The Warrior" qualifies to be entered from India. But that ain't about to happen anytime soon, and I don't mean specifically just "The Warrior" but about all films not made by the idiots of mainstream Mumbai films. Monsoon Wedding pretty much did nto get entered for this particular reason.

I thought MW couldn't be submitted because too much of it was in English to qualify. Doesn't a certain percentage have to be in that country's language?
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Okay, this is total BS. I've seen a lot of foreign films that were not in the native language of the country get passed. And they feel like stopping "The Warrior" from getting nominated? Umm, hello... go to hell Academy.

First off, this film is completely a product of England, and thus probably could not be submitted by India. So there goes that choice...

Second off, I believe the rules state that the film must be in the country's original language or have a good reason for being in another language. Now, let's see... you have a person in Rajasthan... that would be India. Is location of the film not a good enough reason? If not, then how could a film as good as the Warrior go anywhere with the biassed Oscars? It's not an Indian film, and it's been disqualified from Britain. So what, do we just let it sit there?

To the Academy: Maybe you should seriously learn to stop soiling your underwear over issues like this. How about consider the fate and possibilities and actually consider more... or do you just hate the movie because it's Indian?

This is another nail in the coffin for my faith in the Academy. They've given way too many undeserved awards and tried too much in the way of political correctness. Apparently, their image matters more than their taste (or lack of it). An over-rated opinion: that's all the Oscars are.

Once again, please die now and never procreate again.
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Zoran009
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IT IS A REAL SHAME!!
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Sanjay
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DragunR2 wrote:
I thought MW couldn't be submitted because too much of it was in English to qualify.

That is not correct. In fact Monsoon Wedding was amongst the five short listed films for entry from India, but then the only reason it was not selected finally was because Mira Nair is considered by the idiots of Bollywood as being an outsider.
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Zoran009
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yep!! selection depends upon, politics, resourcefullness..called PAWA!!
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Mr_Khiladi
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I knew the film was not going to make it to represent UK. It's not exactly like Gandhi which had British, money, driector, actors & english language!
You know even if The Warrior could have been chosen to represent India, the Indians would probably still prefer to put Devdas forward, over The Warrior!
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Sanjay
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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
You know even if The Warrior could have been chosen to represent India, the Indians would probably still prefer to put Devdas forward, over The Warrior!

Actually The Warrior would have qualified as an Indian entry, but just like I said earlier and you have reiterated, the film would have stood no chance in the voting by the Bollywood controlled Film Federation.
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Sanjay
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Read the following for a more detailed report on why the film (The Warrior) was disqualified.:
Indiatimes report on the disqualification of The Warrior from the Oscars.
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RNJBOND
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Sanjay wrote:
Read the following for a more detailed report on why the film (The Warrior) was disqualified.:
Indiatimes report on the disqualification of The Warrior from the Oscars.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0295682

Would you mind pointing out to me where you find the word "India" in there?

The Warrior has Hindi in it and is made with Indian actors, but it's made by a British man. It's a British movie, not an Indian movie. Beyond the Hindi, what connection does it have to India? If it's only linguistic, does that mean that if a movie were made to America by a Hispanic man with Spanish language and Hispanic actors, it could qualify as a foreign film from any Spanish speaking country (ignoring Spain)?

We can continue to blame the stupidity of the academy that selects Indian films to be considered for Oscars for choosing Devdas over superior products (Kannathil Muthamital was a lot better)... but we can't put the blame on them for this.

I think the Academy is simply being unfair and incredibly stuck-up. I bet if the same thing happened with a British film with French, they'd accept it.

I said it once and I'll say it again: The Academy can go to hell for all I care.
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dograk
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ithna gusa honey ka zarurath kya hai??

nomination nahin mil gya...than ki? theri apni movie than ni hai!
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DragunR2
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RNJBOND wrote:
I said it once and I'll say it again: The Academy can go to hell for all I care.

When Titanic and Gladiator win Best Picture, you know there's trouble. And India rarely submits the best picture each year. Devdas was picked because it was a hit.
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DVD Collector
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DragunR2 wrote:
Devdas was picked because it was a hit.

I don't think that alone is the issue why Devdas got chosen, it must be mostly because its the only Bollywood film to get the most international recognition of this year(official selection at Cannes Film Festival) and I think that gave it a big push for it being selected.

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