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ali
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They don’t get bigger than this :laugh: 664 minutes :oh: of video compressed onto one dual layered DVD - both film are sourced from YRF originals which retain the anamorphic video, DD5.1 audio and subtitles in all languages :O Average bit rate is 2.4/2.5Mb/sec;

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pretty good quality for all that data one disc. excellent divx quality, haha.. imagine if companies such as eros et al used the authors of the two-in-one dvds to author their authentic stuff, man, we may see something that can rival dei. hmm... don't know, could be!

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Chebji wrote:
pretty good quality for all that data one disc. excellent divx quality, haha.. imagine if companies such as eros et al used the authors of the two-in-one dvds to author their authentic stuff, man, we may see something that can rival dei. hmm... don't know, could be!

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Don’t beat around the bush, if you wanna know if it’s progressive encoded or not just ask - yes there both progressive! :p :laugh:

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Don’t beat around the bush, if you wanna know if it’s progressive encoded or not just ask - yes there both progressive! :p :laugh:

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nice sarcasm... but it does accurately portray the way a lot of threads have become about damn prog vs. interlaced, which this zulmi doesn't give a damn about.. as long as it's clear, sharp, and good colors, that's all i'm looking for. by the way, something i noticed, and maybe you noticed, but i don't think there are 660 minutes of video!! that's 11 hours of video yaar! i mean, that would be a f'ing great mpeg encoder to fit all that!!! lol.. i believe it's more like 420 minutes.. not that fitting 7 hours is a feat in itself! :oo:

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Chebji wrote:
nice sarcasm... but it does accurately portray the way a lot of threads have become about damn prog vs. interlaced, which this zulmi doesn't give a damn about.. as long as it's clear, sharp, and good colors, that's all i'm looking for. by the way, something i noticed, and maybe you noticed, but i don't think there are 660 minutes of video!! that's 11 hours of video yaar! i mean, that would be a f'ing great mpeg encoder to fit all that!!! lol.. i believe it's more like 420 minutes.. not that fitting 7 hours is a feat in itself! :oo:

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What exactly are they doing to fit so much video onto a dual layer disc? Are they ripping the data, filtering out some finer detail, and compressing it more? I recently got a pirate songs DVD with around 6 hours of songs. Of course, it doesn't look quite as good as the original DVDs would, but it doesn't look horrendous considering how much is on the disc.
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I have this one as well. The K3G disc is decent, but the Mohabbatein one isn't really that great. I'm not complaining as it's 2-in-1 and both are long movies...didn't really think all that much of the latter movie to begin with!
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Chebji wrote:
nice sarcasm... but it does accurately portray the way a lot of threads have become about damn prog vs. interlaced, which this zulmi doesn't give a damn about.. as long as it's clear, sharp, and good colors, that's all i'm looking for.

"Sikkey aur Insaan mein shaayad yehi Fark hai" (Sanjeev Kumar.. In Sholay ... :stupid: )
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$15 Canadian for this disc, good quality video, works for me :D

Also have Dil To Pagal Hai/Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, Ishq/Pyar To Hona Hi Tha, Lagaan/Dil Chahta Hai, Humraaz/Yeh Hai Jalwa, Deewangee/Jeena Sirf Mere Liye, Satya/Vaastav, Hathyaar/Dil Vil Pyaar Vyar. All of which are very good quality.
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Chebji wrote:
... but i don't think there are 660 minutes of video!! that's 11 hours of video yaar!


Yeh you're right, me confused hours/mins - sux at maths! :p

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What exactly are they doing to fit so much video onto a dual layer disc?


Well all these pirate guys have to-do is half the bit rate of 'original' DVD and two films fill fit on a DVD - and that's all they are doing - there's one touch software available to-do this now. If you look at the internet piracy of Hollywood films; typically a movie fit onto one CD (700Mb) if it's encoded in DIVX otherwise two CDs (1.4GB) if encoded in SVCD mpeg 2 - same encoding standard as DVD. Lower the bit rate does reduce the quality in terms of compression - but you'll only notice the difference when viewed closely or on a bigger screen - check the comparison from KNPH here

Quality of Indian DVDs has always depended on the quality of their digital sourcing - an area which is sadly neglected by most authors. I think the typical mentality of many authors is to get the digital source as cheap as possible and do your own 're-mastering' and authoring - the recent Angoor DVD is typical example of this.

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urbanlegend..can u comment on the 2in1 dvds that u got..like..which is anamorphic,which is not..which is 5.1..etc pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeeee
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vjmajic2002 wrote:
urbanlegend..can u comment on the 2in1 dvds that u got..like..which is anamorphic,which is not..which is 5.1..etc pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeeee

Dil To Pagal Hai - Original YRF 1st release (non 16x9)
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai - Original YRF 1st release (non 16x9)

Ishq - Video Sound release with subtitles (non 16x9)
Pyar To Hona Hi Tha - Super Digital original (non 16x9)

Lagaan - Columbia Tristar release (16x9)
Dil Chahta Hai - Spark Release (16x9)

Humraaz - ERO$ release (16x9)
Yeh Hai Jalwa - Spark release (16x9)

Deewangee - ERO$ release (16x9)
Jeena Sirf Mere Liye - Video Sound (16x9)

Satya - DEI release (non 16x9)
Vaastav - ERO$/B4U release (non 16x9)

Hathyaar - ERO$ release (16x9)
Dil Vil Pyaar Vyar - Spark release (16x9)

Tum Bin - Video Sound release (non 16x9)
Mujhe Kuch Kehna Hai - Video Sound release (non 16x9)

All have the original sound as far as I know...
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sknath wrote:
Chebji wrote:
nice sarcasm... but it does accurately portray the way a lot of threads have become about damn prog vs. interlaced, which this zulmi doesn't give a damn about.. as long as it's clear, sharp, and good colors, that's all i'm looking for.

"Sikkey aur Insaan mein shaayad yehi Fark hai" (Sanjeev Kumar.. In Sholay ... :stupid: )

What does that line mean... I don't know much Hindi.. to me says some thing like "maybe the dfference between man and something.." ... just say what's on your mind directly, sknath
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Chebji wrote:
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Don’t beat around the bush, if you wanna know if it’s progressive encoded or not just ask - yes there both progressive! :p :laugh:

Ali


nice sarcasm... but it does accurately portray the way a lot of threads have become about damn prog vs. interlaced, which this zulmi doesn't give a damn about.. as long as it's clear, sharp, and good colors, that's all i'm looking for. :oo:

Hasan

I believe ali, when he said "Progressive".

Progressive nature of authoring is what lets you fit more on a disc. You save 25% disc space or you can say, you can fit 25% more info on the same disc.

You may not care Prog/ Interlaced, but Prog is the reason for this quantity and quality on this disc.

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Progressive nature of authoring is what lets you fit more on a disc. You save 25% disc space or you can say, you can fit 25% more info on the same disc.

You may not care Prog/ Interlaced, but Prog is the reason for this quantity and quality on this disc.


Now that is the first practical answer i have heard to whether prog is better than interlaced. because as has been said on here before, you can have good interlaced and good progressive dvds in terms of sharpness, etc. for these 2 in 1 dvds, i can see how it would be better to free up more space. how about for regular dvds, wouldn't you want to use all the available space for a 2 hour movie? how would prog come in to help then, when you don't really need to save space (because it would be empty space, then, no?)? on these regular one-disc sets, it would seem to only change the combing artifacts, which not all interlaced dvds show unless you pause them. if you can tell me definitely that progressive is always SHARPER, or more detailed, or better color than interlaced, then i would agree with going progressive. if it doesn't really matter other than to save space, then it doesn't seem a big deal. all the best, rana,

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HASAN, just a minor clarification, combing artifacts, you not only see when you pause!!It is not only this/that!!

I dont want to go in details...

but, i dont want to deny the value!!of 2 in one dvds, cheaper...for esp who have to buy/not rent them to watch, all that shit that eros/vs etc are putting out!!

I am a hard core collector and for 25% or more price, for a quality dvd..note word quality, I will never buy, 2 in one!!I'll buy original, or If available..possibly, in good condition..pre viewed original....

But for the rest, who are buying these, if satisfy their hard core collectorness!! to buy this..I dont mind either!! :baaa:
esp, for a garden variety set up to watch!!

I spent a lot of money on my system and would love to get the best out of that...cheers!! :baaa:
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