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It turns out that the longer cut of the documentary on the 3-disc set isn't even the full cut! The special edition LD had a longer doc, 2 hours, I believe. Just like the doc on Jaws, this is cut. Since I doubt anyone was chomping at the bit to get the '02 version, that should have been forsaken to include the entire documentary. If I can find a good deal on the 3-disc set, I may pick it up just for the longer doc, though perhaps I can find a VHS dub of the full version somewhere.


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Satyajit Ray...I'm sorry, but that's the very first word(s) or name i quickly think of whenever I hear or read "E.T."

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DVD Collector wrote:
Satyajit Ray...I'm sorry, but that's the very first word(s) or name i quickly think of whenever I hear or read "E.T."

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Marie Seton's book, "Portrait of a Director: Satyajit Ray" has a fairly detailed account of Ray's scenario for the film as well as some conceptual sketches of the alien. I posted a scan here a while ago. Does anyone want me to post some details from the book?


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Marie Seton's book, "Portrait of a Director: Satyajit Ray" has a fairly detailed account of Ray's scenario for the film as well as some conceptual sketches of the alien. I posted a scan here a while ago. Does anyone want me to post some details from the book?

Sure DragunR2, post some details from the book. Also, related to the same issue, I recommend you check out this link ::> Satyajit Ray's The Alien

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Here is the basic scenario of The Alien. Quotes from Marie Seton's book are italicized.

Ray wrote the germ of the idea for The Alien for one of his children's stories.

It formed part of his science-fiction series centred upon a Geography Teacher who encounters numerous adventures. In this one, the Teacher is in a somewhat depressed mood until he comes upon a spaceship which has landed on earth by mistake. The occupant, who was to evolve into the Alien and title the subsequent film script, possessed an extraordinary piece of glass through which amazing things could be seen. The encounter, which proved to the teacher that all is not what it seems, endowed the teacher with a new interest in life and ideas. The fact that no one believed what the Teacher says does not matter to him.

It will be recalled that as a small boy Manik Ray* would spend hours of his time experimenting with light coming through a hole in his uncle's door and falling upon a piece of glass which he held up to see what would happen. It was the adult Satyajit Ray's lasting interest in magnifying and microbes which pushed forward the evolution of "The Alien" script.

*Manik was a nickname for Satyajit Ray.

The martian first landed on the outskirts of a remote village, and was originally mistaken for a monster, then for God-and so on. This idea was taken out, as so many sci-fi films had a theme of a monster from outer space.

Early in 1967, a young international producer contacted Ray because he heard of his work on The Alien. He was connected with science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke, whom Ray admired. The producer suggested that The Alien was suitable for an international production, and due to a crisis in the Bengal film industry, Ray decided to take the risk.

Columbia eventually undertook to finance the production of The Alien. The film was to be shot on location, in the area of Santiniketan, with the sets such as the space ship to be in an Indian studio. It was to be a color film. Shooting was first scheduled to start in November 1968 then pushed to January 1969. More complications pushed it back further.

Ray revised his script during negotiations. The Alien is unarmed except for the possession of psycho-physical weapons. These are self-regulated means of special qualities of sight and a naturally potent life force which causes living matter, if looked at or touched, to grow instantly. The alien is a benign force apparently capable of producing miracles.

(to be continued)


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The Alien, continued.

The embodiment of power, as accepted in this world, is G.L. Bajoria, the industrialist... But in the course of the Alien's visit to an ordinary village where Bajoria is having a well dug, it becomes evident that the industrialist cannot control the mind and conscience of either the American well-driller, Devlin, whom he is employing, or the young, scientific-minded journalist, Mohan, who has come to make a study of village life.

Mohan and the Alien share a quality, an element of values, that of compassion. THe target of their compassion is the same-Haba, a small village boy who is being pushed by circumstances within the village into the existence of a beggar. The Alien takes this child away to another form of existence at the end of the film.

The only human who is allowed any direct impression of the Alien is this boy, Haba. It is the Alien's capsule that is assumed to be a miraculously revealed temple by the villagers, even by Bajoria. Devlin is in a perplexed position. It is mohan, newly married, who fits scraps of news and his own impressions together to add up to the convition that the mysterious object in the village pond has come from outer space. It has arrived just as "civilization" has invaded the village through Bajoria's scheme of sinking a well.

There are numerous fascinating aspects to the script. As mentioned, the dominant theme is the absence of menace in the presence of the Alien, whose motivation is joyous curiosity about life on earth-from the germs, amoeba and minute earthly forms in the pond where the capsule lands, to the cremation of the ancient villager, who, for a moment on his pyre, is revitalized due to the Alien's gaze. The unearthly visitor has "a large head, sunken cheeks, small mouth, nose and ears." In Satyajit's first sketches for the head, the ears had been eliminated.

"Eyes sunken-with pupils-if they exist at all-lost in the depths of the sockets. The character is descriptively visualized more completely than any other character in a Ray script. The Alien sees by means of different-coloured lights: green for observing telescopically; blue for microscopic examination; yellow for touch and energy; violet for looking into the brain-Haba's; red for examining the stilled respiratory system of the dead villager. When the red stream of light from the Alien's eyes turns to an intense white, the dead heart begins to beat again. The Alien's hearing is adjusted at will, even to the sound of amoebae drifting in the water and to ants swarming. It is uncertain how many fingers Ray will give to this figure.


(to be continued...)




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Part three of The Alien:

When it comes outside the capsule, which looks like gold, the weightless visitor "is a cross between a gnome and a famished refugee child; large head, spindly legs, a lean torso." Sex indeterminate. "What his form basically conveys is a kind of ethereal innocence, and it is difficult to associate either great evil or great power with him." It, the Alien, is the constant observer of ordinary human events. The strange and scientifically advanced oscillate with earthly reality. "Yet a feeling of eeriness is there because of the resemblance to a sickly human child."

In The Alien script Ray is an amalgamator of his established realist style with sequences of fantasy bounded by scientifically valid images. Something of this combination appeared in Paras Pathar-The Philosopher's Stone-his third film.

The inhabitants of the village are caught between the two invading forces-the materialist schemes of Bajoria, who is both a threat and slightly comic, and the Alien with unexplained energy as the corollary of his presence. The spaceship occupant is observer from the start. Only gradually do his surprising powers unfold.

Ray's sensitivity in the conception of his Alien is the furthest cry from the threatening monsters of accepted science-fiction. His creation is an intriguing creature with the curiousity of Apu translated on to a supranatural plane. In the last scene where the Alien is seen-the one before the final scene where the spaceship takes off with a sudden hiss which turns to a hum glidiing up "to a dizzy pitch, and with a sound like that of high-C pizzicato on a hundred violins"- he is sitting inside the space cabin "cross-legged on the floor in the classical manner of the Buddha, a red disc of sunlight on his face and around his head." The image has a mystic rather than monstrous element; a quality of innocence along with wisdom to be accentuated by the sound, for the Alien sings a simple folk-song about flowers, rivers and paddy fields taught to him by Haba.

In a state of weighlessness and suspended animation, the boy floats in the cabin, together with the other earthly specimens he helped his "friend" collect-a frog, a firefly, a snake, a lotus, a squirrel, and a bulbul bird, all of which are also in a condition of suspension. Inevitably, the conception of the Alien suggests that only those who are as little children can enter another plane, or planetary existence. This Superman is not endowed in Ray's imagination with the conventional qualities of power.

Meanwhile, there is the second dominant motif, that of G.L. Bajoria and his assumption that the dominance of money is supreme. But during the course of the story this assumption fails to be proved. First, he fails to win over the aspiring journalist, Mohan, who gradually fits scraps of information into a pattern which causes him to realize that a visitation from another planet has taken place. At the beginning, it might appear that the silent but shrewd Devlin is Bajoria's man, having been employed by him to well-drill. He makes no obvious protest to Bajoria's suggestion that he carry a gun to the pond, nor to using it if necessary. He uses it to no effect except to be mistaken for a hero. Then he throws it into the pond. Bajoria is totally pooped by circumstances beyond his control. His own standard of values appears to rebound on him, reducing him to helpess idiocy.


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Satyajit Ray claimed himself to be an optimist while at work on Kanchenjunga, saying that Ashoke was the embodiment of optimism. In The Alien, optimism in regard to individual human behaviour and the possible development of intelligence on other planets is even more emphatically optimistic. This is an attitude of mind hardly reflected in the work of other major directors. It is against current trends of despair and violence, even though Ray is working in a city saturated with uncertainty, despair and a considerable undercurrent of violence.


Though E.T. is a remarkable film, I can't help but wonder what The Alien would have been like if Satyajit Ray had made it. It's kind of a tragedy that he never got to make this film, as he obviously put much work into the script. Who knows what the Indian film industry would have turned into if such an international production was made. It would have been interesting to see a science fiction film set in rural India, and this could have been a gem of a film.

If you can find a copy of Marie Seton's book, "Portrait of a Director: Satyajit Ray," pick it up. It is packed with information on Ray's life and films and contains many pictures. It doesn't cover his films from the 80s and 90s, though.

Sketches of The Alien




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Great! Thanks for the information DragunR2. Also check out on the articles from Rediff today regarding this similar topic. Here's a excerpt

"Nearly 20 years ago, Oscar winner for Lifetime Achievement Satyajit Ray alleged that Steven Spielberg had plagiarised portions of ET from a script that the Bengali director wrote in the 1960s.

Spielberg denied the changes and to date ET has grossed $757 million worldwide."


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Why is Indiaweekly selling ET???

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why not?
i wish they were selling all of the dvd's being made?
may be they can provide some attractive prices for the all the dvd's
then i can do all my dvd shopping at one place :D


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dvd_pankhaa wrote:
why not?
i wish they were selling all of the dvd's being made?
may be they can provide some attractive prices for the all the dvd's
then i can do all my dvd shopping at one place :D

DVD yeah ...of cos...and above all you can price-match it with some other stores and combine it with ur other orders...and Voila you have a bargain in your hands !


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