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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:24 pm 
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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
*LOL* It looks like I've upset a Shah Rukh lover in here!

Look, I'm glad I've done that, cos I love winding up Shah Rukh fans!
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I agree that Shah Rukh has a great influence to the industry, but that's not down to acting, that's down to 'star quality'. He has good screen charisma and tries to make most of his films towards the interest of the masses. But as an actor, I don't think he's that great. Sure, he's given some memorable performances - Anjaam, Dil Se, Mohobbatein, Asoka but I still wouldn't put him up with the greats. The reason? Because at times he repeats himself, he only knows about 3 or 4 character roles and their characteristics keep cropping up at varying degrees in all his films. He OVERACTS which means some times you can see that he's trying too hard and it looks too over the top...for example the part in Asoka where he says to his younger brother "I've won Vitasoka" (In Hindi of course) look at his face, he looks like he's lost it for a second, he looks confused rather than triumphant.

Now when you compare him with the REAL actors (Amitabh, Dilip, Raaj Kumar, Naseerudin Shah) then Shah Rukh doen't stand a chance. Shah Rukh himself says he's a bad actor, but will continue to dominate bollywood. He's a big movie star that's all!

As for my name, I just decided to choose it as this forum is bollywood related and I saw it wasn't a name that's taken. I don't think much of Akshay Kumar either and also wouldn't say he's a great actor.

look just answer this: which CURRENT actor has better charisma/acting/image/ (everything that makes up A STAR)?

and btw..i don't know about you but FRANKLY TO ME, amitabh's acting in his movies in the 70s was far from immortal...:)


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dograk,

Like I said I have no arguments when in comes to Shah Rukh being a big STAR, however I still hold by my views that while is a good actor he's not one of the greats.

I think Aamir Khan is also a good actor but he won't be taken seriously in some roles that SRK has done. For example he has a soft boyish look and you can't imagine him in roles like Anjaam. His small body means he won't be taken seriously in action roles like Koyla. You have to look the part to play certain roles.

SRK has the right look and image to suceed in many different roles, he can look like a good guy, a villain, a psychopath, a joker, a romantic lead, etc. All this contributes to his star quality. Plus he has charisma which many people mistake for talent...if you like a persons personality you'd obviously be quite drawn towards them.

But real acting talent is in the few actors that I mention.

RNJBOND,

Like I said the only one I think who can make it big at the moment is Arjun Rampal. I thought Hrithik was good in his 3 early films, but he's been making wrong move after wrong move ever since. However, he may one day come back if he flicks the right switches.

Abhishek....I'm sorry but I don't ever see him being successful unless he goes away, re-invents himself and comes back with a vengence! If he want's to really make it big like his dad he should do that ASAP.


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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
Plus he has charisma which many people mistake for talent...if you like a persons personality you'd obviously be quite drawn towards them.

Mr Khiladi
I think that statement applies to all bollywood star, including Dilip Kumar, Raj Kapoor, Amitabh and many more which could mean that these actors were really not that good.
In my opinion Naseerudin Shah was the best actor ever, in terms of acting and dilivering his lines.
But I have to admit, I like watching SRK films.


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Minesh,

No, I disagree. There's NO WAY that most bollywood stars have charisma...just in like society only a few possess it.

Dilip, Raj, Naseerudin and AB had something more, in that they could get totally absorbed in a role and convince anyone that they were the character. That was REAL talent....they were real actors. You could see it in any number of their performances.


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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
Dilip, Raj, Naseerudin and AB had something more, in that they could get totally absorbed in a role and convince anyone that they were the character. That was REAL talent....they were real actors. You could see it in any number of their performances.

that's what i am saying in regards to SRK!

yaar, frankly this discussion will lead to nowhere - neither of us will change our stance...

but still continue on :)


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Obviously what I've been saying is that I think SRK overacts a little which shows he's 'trying' a bit too much, which to me isn't entirely convincing. Whereas the actors I've mention don't overact.


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but obv for me, srk doesn't overract but more so gets immersed in the role!


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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
Obviously what I've been saying is that I think SRK overacts a little which shows he's 'trying' a bit too much, which to me isn't entirely convincing. Whereas the actors I've mention don't overact.

I thought Raj Kapoor overacted in Sangam, Naseeruddin Shah overacted in Mujhe Meri Biwi Se Bachao, Amitabh Bachchan overacted in alot of recent films (HKKN, K3G, Kohram, Hindustan Ki Kasam etc.) What's not to say that even greats overact?(except maybe Dilip Kumar & Sanjeev Kumar) or perhaps I've yet to see a film where they overact.

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A one-movie wonder?

With seven movies flopping at the box office out
of his eight movies in three years track record, Hrithik Roshan seems to have relived being a one-movie phenomenon, says Aman Singh

New Delhi, August 10

The next Shahrukh Khan. The man with the bulging biceps, the charmer, the looks, his dancing style that swept off the entire nation off its feet. He was the star son with all everything perfect for him. However, the phenomenon that was Hrithik Roshan, started and ended with his first film, the (ad)venture by "father dear" Rakesh Roshan.

He was dubbed the next biggest star to happen in Indian film industry, which was facing a vacuum of upcoming stars in 2000 when Roshan Junior was launched in Kaho Naa…Pyar Hai (KNPH) opposite debutante Amisha Patel. While the film got rare reviews and rang the box office like never before, Hrithik became the millennium surprise not only for the industry but also for the entire nation.

Offers started piling in and even marriage to Suzanne Khan didn't deter Bollywood directors who made a beeline for the new star on the horizon. Flattered definitely, but Hrithik remaining modesty personified. However, two years have passed since his celebrated debut and Roshan Junior's image is fast eroding with no other success having come his way after the initial debut.

While his costar Amisha Patel complained of not having received any mileage from her debut, she has on the contrary done better than Roshan after her first film. After KNPH, came Fiza with a lot of expectations with him experimenting the action hero image but sadly the only one who gained was Karishma Kapoor, his costar and not him. In fact, he was given average reviews with his fans sighing with disappointment despite a performance delivered with panache.

This was followed by another stint at building his "action hero" status with Mission Kashmir. But, again sharing the limelight with Priety Zinta and Sanjay Dutt, an established action hero in Bollywood, made Hrithik look shamefully ill-equipped for the role. With another ace gone down the box office without much for him except lessons, reviewers had a day out criticising him, his technique and even the fact whether he could stay on for more in the industry.

No longer was he compared to the reigning Khans, with Shahrukh Khan jokingly even claiming in the press as to the "audacity of comparing a newcomer with me". Yaadein followed amidst speculation of Hrithik's future making Kareina Kapoor a popular name but the former once again facing the dust for a completely "gone wrong" film. Despite the huge banner supporting the film, a poor script, bad directing and a lackluster performance the film recorded another flop for him.

With a career spanning four films in a single year and three being flops, Hrithik did not have much to boast of when the much celebrated Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham (K3G) was released in 2001. With the film showing off a huge cast with big names of the film industry like Shahrukh Khan, Kajol in the lead roles and an established and appreciated actress Kareina Kapoor costarring with him, Hrithik once again lost out on the otherwise gains that this stupendously budgeted film made because of it being multi-starrer.

After K3G came his next film, Aap Mujhe Acche Lagne Lage in 2002 opposite Amisha Patel in an attempt to re-ignite the chemistry they shared in KNPH. Again, multiple factors scarred the flick as a flop making Hrithik's fate in Bollywood seem imminently facing downhill. With six movies in his bag and only one having been an acknowledged hit and two others having fared averagely, Roshan Jr. had all it took to keep him in the minds of the audience.

Next came Na Tum Jaano Na Hum opposite Esha Deol, a newcomer, a film that there isn't much to say about except the fact that it recorded the 6th film for him besides it being his 5th flop. Even Esha Deol didn't gain much from this film that boasted off nothing more than some song sequences and romantic scenes.

And here now is Mujhse Dosti Karoge, a remake of Dil To Pagal Hai, another love triangle between best friends starring Rani Mukherjee and Kareina Kapoor besides Roshan. And not surprisingly, the Indian audience isn't buying it, yet again. Not only because it is a reflection of Dil To Pagal Hai but also because they are bored stiff of the entire concept and storyline involving the magical triangle.

While critics went to town saying that the "bicep hero" was facing downhill, what he really lacked or shall we say overdid was the intensity bit. In K3G especially, his attempt at being over-intense is what sealed his (ill)fate for him. Another style of him that worked at an advantage for him in KNPH now has begun to act against him. This is his style of dancing that is constant with similar movements in all his song sequences. While in the beginning it was a craze, it has now melted down to nothing more than a repetitive act, something that the audience has never been able to stand, always wanting "something different".

With eight movies to boast off in three years, Roshan hasn't done badly in the number game for himself, but where flops and hits make history and the future, he has lost out terribly. While he blames it on the lack of good scripts, it seems like Roshan Jr. has a lot to learn before he can repeat KNPH. For the moment, however, he is facing the latest flop of his life. How long he can now retain the audience's interest is anyone's guess!


http://www.tehelka.com/channels/ane/200 ... 002hri.htm


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