Time once again to ditch your Yahraj Version of Satyam Shivam Sundaram Copy .

Compare the picture quality (shown below) with the screen caps of the shown here from the Lousy Super-Digital authored Yashraj Films version
http://www.zulm.net/modules....sid=170

My reasons for ditching the YRF version
1.) Definately not a good Master used
2.) More expensive
3.) Pseudo DD 5.1 used
4.) Colors not vibrant

The Shemaroo version is also not a world class susbtitute but it excels in 3 aspects :-

1.) Original film source used for transfer
2.) Vibrant colors
3.) Of cos Much cheaper than the YRF version

It does have its drawbacks in that DVNR has been used excessively and u can (during the progress of the movie) see double images for very fast motion !

Secondly the copy that I obtained for the preview is definately a replicated DVD from the original DVD as the cover artwork is poor and also no inlay card with the DVD.

However the content of the DVD made me feel that it was indeed a good bargain afterall !

My verdict :- Ditch the YRF version and Grab the Shemaroo version

I am not satisfied with this or that version, either..not to my likening..BTW! i did get BOBY shemroo! :vangry:

Michel & Ali have mentioned earlier that double images are due to mix-up of film frames (24 fps) and video (60 fps) frames. This implies encoding problems. Do these encoding problems originate at the replication (legal or illegal) stage or are these features present in the original Shemaroo encoding??

Even though it is evident that this Shemaroo replicated version is better than YRF release, I will go for the original Shemaroo version if void of this problem, no matter if it costs more.

Rana

I have a chance to ask my wife to pick up some Shemaroo dvd’s from India. Does any body know how much they cost and whether there are all original Shemaroo not copied/pirated versions of it ?



Edited By ganti on June 06 2002 at 14:55

Ganti...ask her to pick them up from Mumbai.... (provided Mumbai will still exist by the time she reaches there ).. from Shemaroo's main office itself

And the cost is 750 Rupees (approx 15 Dollars US) flat for each DVD... (which makes them pretty expensive ! vis-a-vis the Replicated Dvds)

Thanks Sknath, but she is not stopping at Mumbai. I can’t imagine how can people pay Rs 750 for a DVD. That is higher than Indian monthly average income.

Precisely thats why They still think VCD's are the best !! (unlike the filthy rich Sindhi's & Marwaris..whos kids have cash to spare and hence can afford these DVDs)

Encoding problems; yes but not at the replication stage - you’re (still) missing the point of replication - there is no loss of quality in replicating original discs in terms of video and audio quality.

Ali

As I said before! somewhere? on forum! Most of these WHOLESELLERS are SELF SUFFICIENT with REPLICATORS!

Making cLONES after CLONES!! ?? WAr of The Clones!!??

Hi Ali & arsh,

So, can I conclude from this that there can be no additional problem or degradation in video quality introduced at the replication stage, legal or illegal; by competent or by incompetent.

If that is the case, what stops illegal replications of DVDs sold at give away prices and also, why would any one pay an arm and a leg to buy DVD rights, spend money to author it and then see it being replicated illegally?? I just wonder. As far as law is concerned, we all know, it is toothless.

Rana

P.S.
Is replication by wholesalers the reason which prompted DEI to respond (mentioned somewhere in forums as DEI's e-mail response) that they have no control over which DVD media (gold/ silver) is used for their DVDs??



Edited By rana on June 11 2002 at 13:55

Ali and Arsh,
I have the same question as Rana has. So I can copy a dvd by using a dvd RW drive with out degrading video and audio!



Edited By ganti on June 11 2002 at 13:46

Ganti yes you can....
Here are the steps...

Go to http://www.doom9.org

then go to downloads and there you will find something called SMARTRIPPER.. download that.

Make sure your DVD rom has no ASPI barrier. If it does (complains while ripping) go and get the ASPI (search in Google for NERO ASPI and you will find it).

Now the advantage of Smartripper is that you make it RegionFree and also Macrovison Free... You can also rip chapter by chapter or any selected portions of the DVD also.
However you will have problems while ripping anamorphic DVDs. Whereas those VOB files will play perfectly well on ur computer, they wont be anamorphic when u play them say on ur region free DVD player.

This was a case when my friend purchased a copy of Har Dil Jo Pyar karega (EROS) and it had an aspect ratio of 720 x 480 on his TV screen but as it was widescreen anamorphic it should have been 850 x 480. This implies that the DVD which he had purchased was a pirated DVD ( replicated and not properly re-encoded).

Sknath Thank you for the help on ripping.

This will surely help me to copy some parts of a dvd like songs and stuff.
What about a dvd copy from standalone DVD RW player like Panasonic? It behaves the same way as with ripping?

Dunno abt DVD burning as yet... Dont have one...There are issues like Dual layered etc..which can affect performance as well as space. You should know how to use that feature inorder to get perfect replicas. DVD burning is still in an infancy . I know abt ripping as I use it to rip the VOB files so that I can watch them under LINUX - MANDRAKE