What I meant was currently no LCD TVs can ever come close to Pioneer Kuro displays. Hope the new Panny displays match the Pioneer Kuro's in terms of quality and performance since Pioneer sold their Kuro technology to Panny. Hope the new Panny 3D HDTV live up to it's hype. Heard the black levels are sick.

I meant CFL not CFD. I was typing this when I was at work and was trying to set up a software which is for CFD (computational fluid dynamics). My brains was like CFD... CFD... CFD all the time . I know that TV industry likes to throw in fancy acronyms always to make people by newer stuff even when they dont need them.

I have one of the newer Samsung LED's. Its no kuro in the dark, but black levels on this model are better than any other LCD I have seen. The reason for getting it? Its much cheaper than finding a kuro in Australia. Also, the factory presets in "movie" mode for the samsung are amongst the best factory presets you will find (although as Sanjay pointed out, the default mode is "dynamic" mode which looks terrible).

The new Samsung's "so called" LED TVs are not bad either. Their black levels are pretty good too.

i havnt seen that perticular pioneer kuro displayes but when abt a year ago i baught my sony bravia 46 inches............at that time when i compared it with many plasma displayes available at that time and its image appered to be far much better to me though i admit there is black level issue present even the angle isssue also but then the general image apperas to be much better in this.............and this cons of lcds are somewhat maybe not 100% but imroved in so called samsung-sony led tvs..........scene has changed with introduction of these tvs but these are slightly expensive than the plasmas..........which i dont know why i never liked........from day 1............

On my kuro, I can't see the bezel where it starts.LCD gascons long ways but if u watch both side by side to best led set blacks look gray. But if u have LCD I will refrain from this comparison for ur own good lol!

All plasma and LCD are not created the same.

** my kuro wont need a heater in the room in winter lol.

But I am damn lucky to own this holly grail lol

exactly i dont watch much on my lcd........its in my parents room...they watch that sd tv material bt i wantch on my pt ae 4000 panasonic projeector....!!!!

You are absolutely right, my very first reaction to seeing the Samasung TV in the 'movie' preset mode, was that it is as close to 'calibirated' settings that I have ever seen on a mid end consumer display.

Agreed, but on the 'value for money' scale, Plasmas have them beat hollow, specially when compared to the top end Pansonic plasmas. Unfortunately in India Pansonic is a total rip off, in that their pricing here is totally out of sync with the TV market. Most models are priced at double to triple their prices in the US.

Not sure why the Panny's and Sony's are so expensive in India. Does it have to do with the import tax the govt. imposes since the displays are not assembled in India but imported in it's entirety. I just saw a demo of the new Panny TC-54VT25. I am impressed. Finally a TV that comes close to a quality of a KURO. BLACK IS BLACK:) I think I am going to buy the 65" display with FULL HD 3D.

Nice review of the new Panny plasma.
http://www.snobreview.com/reviews/telev ... page1.html

@divyansh - Please do not go by the displays you see in stores. It's all a gimmick. As Sanjay had stated they would turn on the Dynamic setting on LCDs that makes the picture bright. They do the same here in the US too. I have a Samsung LCD too. After reading a lot of reviews in the AVS forum, What Hi Fi and CNET, decided to buy a plasma. I made a side by side comparison of the Samsung LCD and Panny Plasma. OMFG, the Panny beat the Samsung LCD in every department. The blacks were a darker shade of grey in the Samsung LCD which I would not have realized if I had not purchased the plasma.

sanjay,

yeah I was ready to spend a couple of hours calibrating when it arrived, but was very impressed with the movie mode settings. I still did play around to make sure I wasnt taking the lazy way out but only ended up adjusting sharpness down and backlight for ambient light in the room.

The trick with LED/LCD is to turn turn down the backlight when watching in the dark. Unfortunately only local dimming sets or the "LED" sets are capable of being watched in this manner as the others look hopeless in the dark.

ill surely now consider a plasma while making another tv buy this diwali........!!

BTW new plasmas are less energy hogers and black levels are may be not on par of kuros and always scare of burn in! and now Plasma got a second life on grave of 3D lol

Plasma burn-in is largely thing of the past. Not sure what you're talking about when you say Plasma is breathing a new life on account of 3D. Zoran009 you don't know what you are talking about, do you?

"In fact, with the arrival of the latest plasma TV sets, sales of plasma HDTVs went up by over 30% in volume and 35% in sales over Q1 2009. During the same period, sales of LCD TVs remained flat over Q1 while revenues went down by 7%! Plasma TVs sales still constitute over 50% of the worlds HDTV market for screen sizes over 50-inch and over 30% for screen sizes in the 40 to 50-inch screen category. Furthermore, the recession turned out to be good economy for plasma TV makers as consumers started to reconsider the less expensive plasma over LCD". The entire article is in the link below.

http://www.practical-home-theater-guide ... ision.html

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6844370-1.html

there are many points to consider in the plasma v lcd debate, most of which are down to the individual's viewing conditions and budget.

Like I said, I own one of the newer Samsung "LED's" and am very satisfied with it for the price I got it in Australia, compared to a Kuro. But I will be the first to acknowledge, that in a dark room which is how I like to see my movies, the Kuro and other top end plasmas beat it noticeably. But the rest of my family, watches a lot of tv during the day. The "LED" LCD beats the pants of a plasma during the day when there is a lot of light.

Ideally, I want one of each