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Clipper
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We r crying about PENNY PENNY DVDS here!


being penny wise pound foolish i guess :D
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rana
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We r crying about PENNY PENNY DVDS here!


being penny wise pound foolish i guess :D

Exactly. When we pay $ 20 - $ 30 for PAL to NTSC converted DVDs.

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and if you are going to complain about BEI in general, you should also complain about the raddi DVDs coming out of every other company


man you're wrong again i did not started out complaining against them in particularly but was just addressing ul answer that the quality is not the same like before what really got me going was when even though you trio were made aware of their recent shitty transfer choose to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to defend them do i hate bei no do i hate any others no its just i dont trust these sobs anymore if you recall at one time i was advocating patience shit wasnt i a naive fool :D one good thing can come out of this thread is that people can be aware now that bei is like all other indian dvd authors they have lost that edge in my eyes :baaa:



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DragunR2
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Clipper wrote:
man you're wrong again i did not started out complaining against them in particularly but was just addressing ul answer that the quality is not the same like before what really got me going was when even though you trio were made aware of their recent shitty transfer choose to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to defend them do i hate bei no do i hate any others no its just i dont trust these sobs anymore if you recall at one time i was advocating patience shit wasnt i a naive fool :D one good thing can come out of this thread is that people can be aware now that bei is like all other indian dvd authors they have lost that edge in my eyes :baaa:

BEI isn't producing as good DVDs as they did in their heyday, we do not disagree on this, but I wouldn't condemn them to Indian DVD Hell just yet. They gave the Punjabi film Hawaayein better treatment than Eros gives their hit Hindi films. This doesn't cancel out Kismat or KHKN, but they have an edge, however slight, over the others.

They're doing the best they can with the prints supplied, but they can't do much to spruce up a damaged or faded print. The blame in these cases goes mostly to the producers for not keeping their films properly or just giving them the first print available, but perhaps BEI should also consider not releasing a DVD at all if they can only get a bad print.

BTW, what was that AB/Vinod Khanna film BEI released a while ago? I believe it was a Manmohan Desai film.



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DragunR2 wrote:
BTW, what was that AB/Vinod Khanna film BEI released a while ago? I believe it was a Manmohan Desai film.

PARVARISH.

Rana

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This sure has become a HOTter thread. So far a new post every 42 min.

Was there any thread before, with faster replies in the first 48 hrs??



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If, Kohra is a bad print, I wish you had told me 10 days ago.


the print is not bad it is decent blemishes are minimal and mostly unnoticable so we cant blame the print here its just no restoration was done you could hear hissing and poping sounds the video is not stable swaying is incessive and very distracting you are better off sitting on a swing and synchronize your movements to the swaying video to get some sort of stabillity picture is very soft and some scenes are very dark there are scenes when you think you are watching a negative i could go on and on but i let you watch and report the rest can you confirm that there are pauses at the reel ends and not signs of freezing another bothersome annoyance :D

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They're doing the best they can with the prints supplied, but they can't do much to spruce up a damaged or faded print. The blame in these cases goes mostly to the producers for not keeping their films properly or just giving them the first print available, but perhaps BEI should also consider not releasing a DVD at all if they can only get a bad print.



your answer is above we will wait for rana review :D
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I have sent rana, my 2 cents on Kohra!! let him be the judge on this $2.99 issue!

BTW!! BEI's hey days DVDS, like BEES SAAL BAAD, KOHINOOR etc had HISSING!!

KOHINOOR Print? u know what I am talking about!!

I would love to see, every day, a CLEAN PRINT/PROG DVD on RELIABLE MEDIA, WITH TRUE5.1 REMASTERED SOUND!as COLLECTOR CLASSICS..not YRF junk!

REMASTERED VIDEO, like NBNW, and CASA BLANCA!!

at DECENT PRICE!! :baaa: and I AGREE to pay that! :baaa:

But WHERE WILL I GET that KINDA HINDI DVD? :bangbang:

WE CAN NOT GET EVEN SUCH DVD ON NEW FILMS :nopity: :angry: :bash: :devil:
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Ah, yes, Kohinoor's another one. I don't remember if there was hissing, but the print was cut. The credits were mostly missing and there are one or two frames missing every so often.

Aren't Kohra, Bees Saal Baad, and Kismat from the same producer? Maybe that explains the similarities in DVD quality. I'll have to look at BSB again.
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Interesting!, BSB and Kohraa are from Geetanjali Pictures, Kismat from Pride of Asia Films. So lets take BEI off the hook and blame the Banners for not protecting the films or negatives! :cool:
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rana
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Clipper wrote:
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If, Kohra is a bad print, I wish you had told me 10 days ago.


the print is not bad it is decent blemishes are minimal and mostly unnoticable so we cant blame the print here its just no restoration was done you could hear hissing and poping sounds the video is not stable swaying is incessive and very distracting you are better off sitting on a swing and synchronize your movements to the swaying video to get some sort of stabillity picture is very soft and some scenes are very dark there are scenes when you think you are watching a negative i could go on and on but i let you watch and report the rest can you confirm that there are pauses at the reel ends and not signs of freezing another bothersome annoyance :D

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They're doing the best they can with the prints supplied, but they can't do much to spruce up a damaged or faded print. The blame in these cases goes mostly to the producers for not keeping their films properly or just giving them the first print available, but perhaps BEI should also consider not releasing a DVD at all if they can only get a bad print.



your answer is above we will wait for rana review :D

Got KOHRAA.

IT'S PAL to NTSC FIELD AVERAGED.

BTW, bit rate hovers around 7 - 9 mbps. But, what good does high bit rate do, when the process is flawed.

I would not call it a DEI/ BEI standard DVD and hence will be an exception for any comparison, like 4 or 5 other DEI/ BEI Field Averaged DVDs.

BTW, my thoughts on: "some scenes too dark, with not much visible and weird noise/ sounds----"

Being a horror film, many scenes, as per the situation, are lit by keroscene lamp and the flame fluctuates with wind. You can't expect to see much in this situation and scene brightness is suppose to change, frame to frame, as per illumination. I'm not sure if weird noise/ hiss or whatever is part of the plot or real noise.

Rana



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Did u COMMENT on FLAWED ATROCIOUS PRINT part of KOHRA?
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rana
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arsh wrote:
Did u COMMENT on FLAWED ATROCIOUS PRINT part of KOHRA?

I consider Field Averaging as a flawed process for Digital disc.
EVP (Hindi DVDs) type PAL to NTSC conversion 'withought mixing frames' (i.e. without field averaging) is better if it has to be PAL to NTSC converted. (every 6th frame/ field is a repeat frame/ field).

Rana



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Zoran009
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I thought, clipper dude, was complaining about NON RESTORATION and HISSING SOUND! he was NOT A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT OUR DEFECTIVE ENCODING PROCESS ASPECT? ??? :hmm:



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You can't expect to see much in this situation and scene brightness is suppose to change, frame to frame, as per illumination. I'm not sure if weird noise/ hiss or whatever is part of the plot or real noise.

agreed but i was refering to daylight scenes fluctuation



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FLAWED ATROCIOUS PRINT


:hmm: ??? must have missed those parts have to watch it again
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KISMAT shots sent to LEGEND!! so JAB KISMAT HOGEE!! post hojayenge!!
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