Okay time now for my fortnightly DEI update :-

" I am satisfied by the avg business of TNBP. We didnt lose any money on it. Thankfully we avoided the Haan Maine Bhi Pyar Kiya DVD.... The DTS version of TNBP will be out 4 weeks from today (end of March) and will be sold only from online stores. i.e DEI, IW, ICDs, Cdguru, etc. and not in any retail store."

Now here are the forthcoming DVD releases from DEI :-

Movie DVDs :-
1.) An Evening in Paris and Satyameva Jayate should be out by next week.

2.) Kashmir ki Kali and Ghar Dwar will follow in the coming week after that

3.) Angoor comes after that, and that deadline is still gonna be met, though realistically speaking it may get delayed ...due to the shipping time from Bombay. Apparently KHATTA MEETHA and ANGOOR are being shipped (negatives) from India next week

Song DVDs :-

1.) Untitled :- but this DVD will have songs from GADAR (remastered), Tum Bin (remastered), Yeh Mohabbat Hai (remastered), all DEI new releases starting from EK RISHTA and they are trying to get songs from RAAZ, YAADEIN and HAAN MAINE BHI....

2.) Classics again untitled :- 101 songs similar to the one released by EROS, with songs from all classic DEI films, including maybe from some other titles which they will release in the near future. This will be a 2-disc set, containing 2 DVD18 , DVds... Just think how the bit rate may turn out to be

3.) An Amitabh Bachchan Songs DVDs.... (Faddy you listening :p ) - 2 Disc set (DVD-9) :- 50-60 songs

4.) Punjabi song collection 1 DVD 9 disc set, with 30-40 songs

So long folks... keep watching this space for further updates, where you can find only @zulm.net :happy:

thing is... i dont believe a word of this shit!!

Me looks out of this one just for the Tum Bin re-mastered songs!

Ali

Will the DTS DVD have less bits for the picture and worse
compression?
Are the Yaadein songs remastered? The original DVD is
awful.
Michel Hafner

Awww come on Faddy...I still am hoping to see you do the FULL Monty should they actually release the DTS track version of the DVD ... But Heck an AMITABH DVD...and you not interested ?..How come ? :0

Hafner, I dunno abt the bit rate, but they did say that they will re-master the songs (including GADAR and TUm-BIN...Ali there you go :p ) before they transfer them into the DVDs.

Raaz , Yaadein are with TIPS and they are in negotiations with them to re-release those songs

Hey Michel :-
Regarding yor question I did ask Sandish abt it and he said that the DVD will have just a DTS track and a Dolby stereo encoded on the DVD. And It will be a 2 Disc set, which means that you can have some sort of compromise... Of cos the picture is not gonna be remastered again (so all you SQUASHED fans sorry folks..better luck next time !)



Edited By sknath on Mar. 01 2002 at 06:04

Bhaii, Naath, ab PAKEEZAH ka kya hoga?
TNBP, limited edition, only on dts track, single or 2 disc, YAAR film tou bas chal chaloo hai, paisa wasool, may be fo DEI, but for others, badi mushkal hai ji badi mushkal!;) :vsneaky:

BTW!! seems LIKE our bro FADDY will have to WORK OUT hard for few weeks for THE SHOW!! my apologies faddy! just for a laugh!;) :vsneaky:



Edited By arsh on Mar. 01 2002 at 13:05

Fantastic news. My mouth is already watering thinking about An Evening.., and Kashmir Ki Kali. Would also love the Classic 101 songs along with Amitabh songs.
Now if they would work on Padosan and Talash... Both these movies had some very memorable soundtrack.
Thanks SK, keep up the good work.



Edited By pardesi on Mar. 01 2002 at 18:01

Why can't Sandish or someone from DEI respond to the issue of 'squished picture' and atleast give their explanation for the problem and why they are unable to rectify it? Do they even admit to the existence of the problem?

Sandish at DEI addresses some of Zulm’s major areas of concern:

Regarding the squashed video problem:

DEI does not pick and choose which title will be better or less quality. This is all determined by the print master. We use the same methods on all titles released by us. There are many instances where negatives were not stored properly, and therefore you cannot achieve the same quality. A good
instance is Julie and Ram Aur Shyam. Both masters were received from Bombay together, both masters were processed in the same manner, yet both yielded different results. Also a factor is the negative stock material that was used when the movie was shot....(Eastman color usually gives the best
results)....and also the shooting equipment that was used....all these factors come into play as to how the video and audio quality will turn out.


Regarding the use Gold media like before and not silver media (e.g. Abhay).

Another misnomer. Whether gold or silver is used, has no bearing on the quality of what’s on the DVD. DEI does not have control over which one is used, as replication plants make this determination. And also, silver is known to produce a better quality disc.....i.e....less playability problems
such as freezing etc.

Regarding framing the video correctly, not just the squashed video problem but the covering the rough top and bottom edge that often show the splice flicker across the screen.

We do agree that this was a problem at the beginning....but has been corrected. We feel that people are incorrectly claiming squash problems when there is none. Abhay and YDA was correctly framed contrary to the review posted on the Zulm website. Comments such as these are incorrect, and being posted by people who have no knowledge of what they are talking about. Mr. Ali claims in his review that YDA is 2.35 incorrectly framed at 2.40. My question is, how does he determine that the original aspect ratio is 2.35,
and how does he determine that it is incorrectly framed at 2.40?.....These comments are absolutely incorrect, and just feed this misinformation. Our position is that Abhay, and YDA were not squashed, and were correctly framed. A look at the comparative shots on the YDA review show this.



Edited By SAZ on Mar. 06 2002 at 04:04

Hafner et Ali il est temps pour vous de répondre

Well Mr Ali. can u please give us an answer!! hahahah

One famous quote was, "even a monkey can fix it".
But only if you realize that something is wrong, it can be fixed.

It is not relevant, how you frame it. What is relevent is that a circle if photographed directly from its front should be displayed as a circle and not an ellipse. (Also, Amitabh should appear as 6 footer, not 5)

Obviously, DEI doesn't realize this distorted geometry in their anamorphic DVDs. It will take some time to debate this subject and I hope we can constructively make DEI realize existance of this problem in their anamorphic DVDs.

To start, Refer Rajshri's HSSH DVD.
Look at Rajshri circle logo at the beginning of the titles. It is vertically squashed (aprox 8 percent). In DEI authored Maine Pyar Kiya, it is a perfect circle.

Rana

BTW:
I will be busy for the next few days and will be able to debate this topic sometime next week only. In the meanwhile, I am sure Ali, Congress et. al. can provide enough evidence to convince DEI of this flaw in their anamorphic DVDs.

Ali! yaaar! any body, woh kaya kahawat hai! sawan ka andha! can some body complete!! I am amazed at DEI's stand!
Time for action ALI! MH!

Thanks Saz for writing that piece.



I dunno to everyone else but that just reads like DEI haven’t got a clue what they are doing :doze: Maybe a black-box syndrome; they input a film print into this black-box and use the results as they come out. Is quality control and digital re-mastering not an issue? You know the stuff normal DVD companies do day in day out regarding old master pieces ??? I don’t have much of a problem what you have said here; given that the reputation of storage and mistreatment of prints is commonly know; so quality regarding old films, you are going to get different results depending on what state you find the prints in. But also say this much; give the same print to someone else like Hong Kong Legends and you will see amazing results. Says a lot about how DEI and HKL handle DVD mastering (and no its not a cost issue).



Hmmmm... interesting findings this. First of all I don’t recall anyone every saying here that it effects quality, no media can by itself! But I have on many occasions said disc freezing problems and video skipping could be related to these silver discs – this is merely a speculation without any evidence. I would like to you see where you got the line ‘silver is known to produce a better quality disc.....i.e....less playability problems
such as freezing etc’ – entertain me with the evidence and I’ll be willing to change my opinion on this. Fact is many people have complained about disc freezing problems regardless of gold/silver disc. Again its a lack of quality control of the product. But I'll await the evidence.



First of all who are WE? Would be nice to identify yourself. I still say the problem has not been rectified – especially on YDA, Abhay and more recently on TKNP. I’m just trying to grasp what you're trying to tell me here – because there’s clear refusal to acknowledge this problem, so I want to be clear on what you are saying.

Are you saying this site is purposely squashing images to create a problem on DEI DVDs? Or are you saying that the problem doesn’t exist even when the DVD themselves show them? ??? YDA in particular shows evidence of this; because the trailers and one song are correctly framed. You can capture shots from both and tell there is a difference in image aspect ratio – so both can’t be right?

You say ‘look at the comparative shots on the YDA review show this’ – does it! Those shots show different AR, did you not notice one is longer than the other and question why this is? I could really break it down for you if you really want :wot:

But if you saying I’m purposely squashing these images just on DEI titles – then that’s something different, in which case other people can take the screen shots themselves and tell for themselves.

Ali