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Thanks to Arsh for the screen shots.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:02 pm 
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Arsh let me guess... the dvd is.......interlaced ?????? :p


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u knew it, ha ha!!


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Wow, Sharmila was really beautiful! I never realized that she was this gorgeous. The print doesn't look very good though. Perhaps its good in patches? I don't know. I will receive this from IW soon so I'll get to find out for myself.

By the way, 'Kashmir ki Kali' EVP DVD should win the award for 'Worlds ugliest DVD menu'. The way its designed makes it look like that old cronie is the kali of Kashmir. Who on earth is that hideous man, and why did they put him on the menu? These people are even more retarded than Eros.

But they cant be as bad as Ultra or Bombino.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:24 pm 
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arsh, you do have subtitles?

kabir, if i am not mistaken this is sharmila's first movie and she was 14 years old. do agree the cover is pretty scary :D


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Shuman, was she really only 14 years old?!! Goodness. In America or Europe, such a film would be called 'Lolita'. Only in India do we reward such pedophilic desires with names like 'Kashmir ki Kali'. Should we amazed or ashamed? Maybe both.

By the way, I thought Sharmila's first movie was the Satyajit Ray one called 'Apur Sansar'? I could be wrong but I thought that was her first film. She was amazing in that one too!


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I think, u both r right...per s. k. nath, guru! first film was bengali, this is first hindi!!

btw! hema's first film was sapnon ka saudagar..against, maha raj kapoor!


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Came across this DVD of Kashmir Ki Kali by Spark which happens to be a re-badge of the Sky DVD – couldn’t find if these screen shots have been posted before but here they are anyway;

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Some shots from Zee Cinema as it's showing today...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:40 pm 
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Another excellent print on Zeecinema (UK). I guess if the same film showed in US, it'll be NTSC converted (field averaged) and hence no better than EVP DVD ??

Did anyone record the Zeecinema UK telecast ??

Zeecinema telecast seems to be from the same telecine (Film to PAL) that perhaps was used for EVP & Sky DVDs (Film to PAL to NTSC field averaged). This zeecinema telecast must have been in PAL (Direct film to PAL).

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BTW, the EVP DVD that I have, doesn't have the EVP logo watermark. Colors are dull and needs lot of tweeking.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:01 am 
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Indeed amazing. When recorded only come out to be 2.5 gb or so, but looks millions miles ahead of 7-8gb stuff/. I hope some one did record to share. :D


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:57 am 
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There was another song, included in the first week of the film showing but deleted after censors objection.

I saw the film during its first week run but have no memory. (You may find its audio in some rare albums)

Here are the details:
(You can see the referenced clip (without the song) and it's audio in the link provided.

https://upperstall.com/features/deleted ... hawa-mein/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkd0m9paByE


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https://upperstall.com/features/deleted-songs-balma-khuli-hawa-mein/

But O P Nayyar, who had already worked with Samanta in Howrah Bridge (1958) and Jaali Note (1960), invited the latter to listen to some tunes he had composed. Samanta was totally taken in by all 30 odd tunes that Nayyar played, choosing 12, which he used between Kashmir Ki Kali and their next film together, Sawan Ki Ghata (1966).

One beautiful composition that Samanta selected was recorded by Nayyar as a solo sung by Asha Bhosle, Balma Khuli Hawa Mein. The song was filmed on Sharmila Tagore and other girls amidst the hills and according to some old timers the film released originally with the song very much present in the film. In fact, according to viewer Ramesh Bhagwan commenting on Greta Kaemmer’s piece on the film, “This song was shown in the theatres in the first week of its release in 1964 and I was lucky to have seen it. It was a lilting melody superbly picturised with Sharmila serenading in the lush Kashmir with her duppatta flying over her head.” Sadly for the film, a week into its release, someone from the Censor Board suddenly woke up and decided that when the ‘khuli hawa’ caused Tagore’s duppatta to fly in the breeze, her breasts though safe under her ‘kameez’ heaved a little too much for comfort. What’s more, when the duppatta fell back on Tagore, it fell on her head and not on those offensive shaking breasts. The song, in danger of morally corrupting the Indian film going public, had to go. Faced with having to delete the song or risk the Censor Board revoking the film’s certificate altogether, Samanta chose the former so that the film could continue its uninterrupted run in the theatres.

According to both, Ramesh Bhagwan and the blog, Conversations Over Chai, the song followed the scene the night before when a repentent Sharmila Tagore puts a blanket over a shivering Shammi Kapoor after she and her companions threw water on him and the fire he lit to stay warm in the night. Driving around the next morning, he hears her singing the song and reaches her where the scene where he returns the blanket to her then follows. As seen in the film now, only a little alaap of Bhosle singing remains as Kapoor drives around the hills before the scene with him and Tagore kicks in.

Fortunately for listeners, HMV included the song in its discs of the film and in various compilations of Asha Bhosle songs. So we can, at least, hear this wonderful song even if we can’t ‘see’ it. Still, the loss is undoubtedly ours.

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In the case of Guru Dutt, at least, and there were lots of deleted songs, incomplete films in his filmography, his son, Arun Dutt, told me that in those days, when they discarded something, they threw it all away. So we will never get to see Jata Karan Hai Deewane (CID, 1956) or Rut Phire Par Din Hamare (Pyaasa, 1957) or Sahil Ki Taraf Kashti Le Chal (Sahib, Bibi Our Ghulam, 1962)…


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:00 am 
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I got to this deleted song tidbit while searching for another song from Sawan Ki Ghata that's included in the wikipedia listing and is not in the current DVDs running to 143 min. Film CC of the film (Sawan Ki Ghata) shows 4498 meters which is 164 min film run time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxReJvaggf4
Mohammed Rafi & Asha Bhosle, Hothon Pe Hasi Aankhon Mein Nasha, Sawan Ki Ghata


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