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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:44 pm 
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bhoot= RGV ki revathy telugu?or hindi flick, so did james= shiva

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Company= remake satya in a different dimension/ world, that is rama ka underworld evolution lol :lol:

Kaun, might be most likely copy too, but I did like the concept and also, house acting as a character.

Ab tak chappan..Indeed I enjoyed that one too, more for Nana then Rama :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:53 pm 
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Well, Aag flopped badly but don't dish R G V. R G V directed film "Darling" that released just one week after AAG, is getting all rave reviews and audience reaction is very good as well. Being a low budget film, it sure will make to a Hit status.
BTW, I haven't had a chance to see Aag in theatre but can't believe it could be so bad. No matter even if RGV himself says so. If you dislike a film by watching it on home video, it means nothing as theatrical experience is different from home video experience. Some productions are meant to be seen in theatre and some on home video. Example: Ramayan, Mahabharat, etc series worked only because these were on home video.

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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:02 pm 
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Company had shades of (and at least one sequence lifted from) Scarface starring Pacino -- but I do like Company a lot.

See that's it -- we all like some movies other dislike and we like them for concrete resons.

But AAG -- who likes it at all, and if yes, for what concrete reasons?


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:05 pm 
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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
Zoran009 wrote:
as ali said impo, company, sarkar, were copies and were over rated!

Rangeela, Shiva were done before ramu went A POLO LOCO! :lol:

EHT , I enjoyed and I think was not directed by himself! I did like Kaun too!

He went down the drain after successful copy BHOOT, and then crap after crap, under company's names, try to sell, cheap thrills in the name of quality cinema!


Company was a copy? :shock: Of what film? I really need to see the 'original' if it indeed is a copy. That could pretty much make me dislike the film. :(

EHT was not done by him and was 'inspired' by another film. Ab Tak Chappan was a great film and I think original work but it was not directed by him. Kaun on the other hand was done by him and was a complete load of crap as was Bhoot. If anyone is scared of Urmila pulling faces, they need help. :lol: RGV should stay away from horror. What film did Bhoot copy? To me it seemed 'inspired' by the Japanese horror that was popular at that time.

Sarkar, I believe was a 'weak' interpretation of the Godfather. How the hell Indian fans on IMDB believed that Sarkar could be better than the Godfather is beyond me! It's just embarassing that people like that exist.

So is his only truly great film Satya? I guess we can credit Anurag Kashyap with that one!


I loved Ab Tak Chhappan, but, indeed, Varma didn't direct it. I loved Kaun. Bhoot I found just about so-so; too "inspired by" an unbeatable film in the horror genre: The Exorcist. Personally, I feel people suck a little too much Godfather dick (sorry). It's a great movie, fine, but I get tired of people taking as "granted" that it's the greatest movie ever pieced together. That said, I think Sarkar is pretty good, but nothing more.

I don't think it's fair to say that Company had anything to do with Scarface. They're both about criminal activity, and so are myriad other films made thw world round. Even De Palma's Scarface is a remake of the 1930s' film starring Paul Muni.


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:25 pm 
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I thought, Kaun was inspired from Yash & B.R. Chopra's Ittefaq.


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:30 pm 
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Commando303 wrote:

I don't think it's fair to say that Company had anything to do with Scarface. They're both about criminal activity, and so are myriad other films made thw world round. Even De Palma's Scarface is a remake of the 1930s' film starring Paul Muni.
You have to check out how Devgan and Oberoi fall out -- and compare that with the same sequence in Scarface -- where Pacino and Shenar (Sosa) fall out (over a killing involving the target's family/kids too).

I am not saying Company was copied -- it just had shades of Scarface. I like Company a lot.

BTW Scarface was copied/adapted in Saathi and Agneepath too.


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
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Have you seen Gothika? Is it inspired from Bhoot or vice versa ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: RGV's Aag bombs
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:03 pm 
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RGV's Aag bombs
Despite the hype and hoopla since its launch, Ram Gopal Varma's version of Sholay, Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag finds no takers, with opening shows all over drawing about 12 to 15 people!

Anant Mahadevan's Victoria No 203 -- a remake of producer Kamal Sadanah's father, Brij's film of same name -- is another failed attempt.

Pooja Bhatt's Dhokha -- a film about terrorism, alienation of a minority community and police injustice sans entertainment -- has not been able to make a mark at the box office.

Trade pundit Vinod Mirani tells us the fate of these films.

Note: Films are ranked according to their release dates. The thumbs ups and downs reflect rediff's views.





Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag

Cast: Amitabh Bachchan, Mohanlal, Ajay Devgan, Prashant Raj, Sushmita Sen, Nisha Kothari.
Director: Ram Gopal Varma.
Mohanlal.

Terrible performances, poor excuse for a film.

Number of weeks: New.
BO Verdict: Flop.

Review 1 | 2




Dhoka

Cast: Tulip Joshi, Muzzamil Ibrahim.
Director: Pooja Bhatt.
Great concept.

Poor execution, too preachy.

Number of weeks: New.
BO Verdict: Flop.

Review




Victoria No. 203

Cast: Jimmy Shergil, Soniya Mehra, Kamal Sadanah.
Director: Anant Mahadevan.
Tough!

Poor remake of a classic comedy.

Number of weeks: New.
BO Verdict: Flops.

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Heyy Babyy

Cast: Akshay Kumar, Fardeen Khan, Riteish Deshmukh, Vidya Balan.
Director: Sajid Khan.
Akshay Kumar.

Poor direction, too melodramatic.

Number of weeks: 1.
BO Verdict: Opens well in multiplexes.

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Kaise Kahein

Cast: Rajveer, Neha Jhulka.
Director: Mohit Hussain.
The film has some bright moments.

Dull screenplay and direction.

Number of weeks: 1.
BO Verdict: Flop.

Review




Marigold

Cast: Salman Khan, Ali Larter.
Director: Willard Carrol.
Unabashed embrace of romantic love.

Flat characterisations, badly telegraphed plot points.

Number of weeks: 2.
BO Verdict: Flop.

Review




Buddha Mar Gaya

Cast: Paresh Rawal, Anupam Kher, Ranvir Shorey, Prem Chopra, Vinay Pathak, Rakhi Sawant
Director: Rahul Rawail.
Prem Chopra and Vinay Pathak shine in their cameos.

Tasteless adult jokes, weak screenplay.

Number of weeks: 2.
BO Verdict: Flop.

Review




Chak De! India

Cast: Shah Rukh Khan.
Director: Shimit Amin.
Top notch performance from Shah Rukh Khan, well-directed and well-paced film.

Hockey may not be such a crowd puller.

Number of weeks: 3.
BO Verdict: Hit.

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Kaafila

Cast: Sunny Deol.
Director: Ammtoje Mann.
Explores the plight of illegal immigrants.

An over-the-top Sunny Deol, film is very long.

Number of weeks: 3.
BO Verdict: Flop.

Review




Blue Umbrella

Cast: Pankaj Kapur, Shreya Sharma.
Director: Vishal Bhardwaj.
Great direction, wonderful story adaptation, Pankaj Kapur is excellent.

Some scenes are too darkly lit.

Number of weeks: 3.
BO Verdict: Flop.

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Trade pundit: Vinod Mirani | Design: Uday Kuckian

Last time's box-office results


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Clearly do you even read these reviews or blindly copy / paste them ? List comprises numerous movies unrelated to AAG, why waste everyone's time and read crap has nothing to do with original topic ? Makes no sense to have us go through long list does not correspond to topic. :?


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
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I waste time/space, not time x2 and spacex2 by re pasting those :D just wondering!!


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
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NewDeep wrote:
Commando303 wrote:

I don't think it's fair to say that Company had anything to do with Scarface. They're both about criminal activity, and so are myriad other films made thw world round. Even De Palma's Scarface is a remake of the 1930s' film starring Paul Muni.
You have to check out how Devgan and Oberoi fall out -- and compare that with the same sequence in Scarface -- where Pacino and Shenar (Sosa) fall out (over a killing involving the target's family/kids too).

I am not saying Company was copied -- it just had shades of Scarface. I like Company a lot.

BTW Scarface was copied/adapted in Saathi and Agneepath too.


Come, now, NewDeep, you can't possibly expect me not to know about Agneepath. Some scenes are certainly inspired by Scarface, but the film (my all-time favorite) comes together very well as its own work. Honestly, in it, I see more shades of Deeawaar than of Scarface.


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:51 am 
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Cut n Paste reviews:
Actually, it's at poster's risk for which the poster can face copyright hassles (even if reference link is posted, it may still be infringment of copyright ??). If the orig source doesn't mind, and zulm.net has no issues with using up so much space, only thing we have to decide is whether to click that poster's post or not.

Besides, copying other posts, isn’t it illegal to post copyright screen caps from DvDs such as they are posted on this site ? :?


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Commando303 wrote:
NewDeep wrote:
Commando303 wrote:

I don't think it's fair to say that Company had anything to do with Scarface. They're both about criminal activity, and so are myriad other films made thw world round. Even De Palma's Scarface is a remake of the 1930s' film starring Paul Muni.
You have to check out how Devgan and Oberoi fall out -- and compare that with the same sequence in Scarface -- where Pacino and Shenar (Sosa) fall out (over a killing involving the target's family/kids too).

I am not saying Company was copied -- it just had shades of Scarface. I like Company a lot.

BTW Scarface was copied/adapted in Saathi and Agneepath too.


Come, now, NewDeep, you can't possibly expect me not to know about Agneepath. Some scenes are certainly inspired by Scarface, but the film (my all-time favorite) comes together very well as its own work. Honestly, in it, I see more shades of Deeawaar than of Scarface.
Yes, the mother and Mithun angles can be traced back to Deewar, but the core plot of Agneepath is definitely Scarface. BTW, Agneepath is amongst my favourites too ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
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jadoo wrote:
rana wrote:
Cut n Paste reviews:
Actually, it's at poster's risk for which the poster can face copyright hassles (even if reference link is posted, it may still be infringment of copyright ??). If the orig source doesn't mind, and zulm.net has no issues with using up so much space, only thing we have to decide is whether to click that poster's post or not.

Besides, copying other posts, isn’t it illegal to post copyright screen caps from DvDs such as they are posted on this site ? :?

Copyright/ illegal, so what ?? As I said earlier, it's at poster's risk or zulm.net risk. And, if the original source doesn't mind, why should you or I worry ??

As I see in another thread, you yourself have posted a lots of cut n paste. Are you implying that was illegal ??
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9705


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
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rana wrote:
jadoo wrote:
rana wrote:
Cut n Paste reviews:
Actually, it's at poster's risk for which the poster can face copyright hassles (even if reference link is posted, it may still be infringment of copyright ??). If the orig source doesn't mind, and zulm.net has no issues with using up so much space, only thing we have to decide is whether to click that poster's post or not.

Besides, copying other posts, isn’t it illegal to post copyright screen caps from DvDs such as they are posted on this site ? :?

Copyright/ illegal, so what ?? As I said earlier, it's at poster's risk or zulm.net risk. And, if the original source doesn't mind, why should you or I worry ??

As I see in another thread, you yourself have posted a lots of cut n paste. Are you implying that was illegal ??
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9705


You know what's funny: seeing the same review of a movie posted on various Web sites (and appear in various printed newspapers) that seem to have nothing to do with one another. ... :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: AAG
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:28 pm 
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NewDeep wrote:
Yes, the mother and Mithun angles can be traced back to Deewar, but the core plot of Agneepath is definitely Scarface. BTW, Agneepath is amongst my favourites too ;-)


The opening "police station" scene, the "restaurant" scene, ...: there are certainly parts inspired by Scarface. But, as we seem to agree, the movie's nothing if not awesome — :D .


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