there are three options
I1) In all DVD players the optical or coaxial output sends the 5.1 stream to the reciever or 2ch to the reciever when selected
2) in a normal DVD player with 2 ch output 2 jacks at the back if a track is 5.1 it is mixed down by default in the player and sent out as 2 ch stereo, a 2 ch stereo track if present or selected by the user is sent as it is.

3) in a DVD with 6 output jacks at the back when connected to a amplfiers it sends the 5.1 output and selects 2 ch when the user chooses to reduce a 5.1 track to 2 ch for playback on a TV.


Now why do we need a 2 ch track, imagine the 5 channels as five boxes of fixed sizes, if you have fit them in a space of 2 or 3 boxes would you not sacrifice some part of the box or alter the matter in it in someway. This is similar

also why is the 2ch bit rate crazy at 192 kbps per second for 2 ch it is pretty high and gives decent quality audio comparable to a CD

what happens in dolby is when you make a track 5.1 with no 2ch track you cannot have the full range of sound effects. and the overall range and impact of the 5.1 track has to be reduced as when this played on a 2 ch system it would break the speakers... as for a 2 ch system the 5.1 track is mixed down to 2 ch


so the guy expecting a proper mix of 5.1 sound loses out ,thus they include the 2ch track which is used by the guy with a normal stereo TV and the 5.1 track is not adjusted for a 2 ch setup.

so please dont blindly say we dont need a 2 ch track and all the conversion happens in a DVD player or AV reciever

Watched Jhoom Barabar Jhoom last night with the DTS audio track, which has no story line or I should say lacks one. The highlight of the movie is the title song or main song "Jhoom Barabar Jhoom" where BIG B makes a foul of himself, but when YRF is willing to pay 2-3 crores for doing nothing I'd do the same

I agree!! paisa phenk, gay guru ka tamasha dekh

I did try both DD, DTS on this disc and as usual, find it superior with BASS altogether tight and more integrated feel to soundtrack. just my 2 cents!

It was a great comeback for.......those Shahenshah boots!

Come on: Amitabh Bachchan had better moves than Bobby Deol — .

Just managed to see this DVD today and I'd say it's not half bad. Pseudo-prog (proper film-to-NTSC), decent colour rendition and excellent sound. What more can we ask these days?

The only real downside was the amount of pixellating, which was even worse than on the UTV Don DVD. There's always something.

I agree with the Stephen Bhai .. the DVD is not that bad as some have said. It seems to be decent .. too bad my HT is in the repair shop I would have love to hear the DTS.

BTW I didnt notice any heavy pixelation .. unless I am going blind. Now I watched this on my PS3 upscaled with two features turned on:

• Frame Noise Reduction (Set to reduce fine noise.)
• Block Noise Reduction (Set to reduce mosaic-like block noise displayed on the screen.)

Would this make a difference in the amount of pixellation seen? I noticed a difference in the Dhoom 2 Title song on my YRF Go Dhoom Songs DVD which on a normal DVD player showed a heavy amount of pixelation.

The pixellating was most noticable to me at the start of the dance contest sequence when the picture completely disintegrates. I don't think even the best noise reducers would fix this, but I could be wrong. Glad you didn't see the horrors of it anyways, UL Bhai.

Here's some screencaps...

it depends upon your dvd player deinterlacer also. I dont see this even with DCDI processor engaged as good as black, and still quiet a bit motion blur, but no pixellation, i might have to get close to my screen or may be my dvd player's processor fixing it.

btw on powerdvd, when u play back, dd 5.1 and 2.0 plays louder than dts but overall, dts renders better balanced soundtrack imho.

what do you say stephen re dts vs dd on this dvd.

btw i thought german or french dhoom had dts too?

They sounded equally as good to me.



Yes, but not true DTS. The track was just converted from the DD 5.1 audio.

YRF Jhoom Barabar Jhoom is Pseudo-Prog encoding (Film to NTSC; Not Field Averaged)).

I mentioned that a few posts ago. But it's film-to-NTSC, not PAL.

Oops, my mistake. I meant to type "NTSC" but typed "PAL" instead.
Corrected my post.

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Obviously I missed Stephen's post mentioning it's "Direct Film to NTSC transfer".

I simply love the dts on this dvd -- excellent!

I have to disagree with those not in favour of dts in Bollywood films -- more than 50% of home theatre is the audio domain and the clearer and the meatier it is, the better -- and what better than dts to do that on conventional home theatres!!

BTW, is the image cropped, or is the matte opened up a little on top and bottom? YR have never cropped in the past...

Meanwhile, I also bought the DVD-Audio of JBJ -- amazing sound on that with dts, dd5.1, lossless PCM