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It shows a state; I don't know that it indicates problems that must be overcome for the industry to be of worth. Again, I hate when a movie is absolutely plagiarized — e.g., Hum Kaun Hai?, Ek Ajnabee — and I hate the gusto with which some filmmakers defend the practice (especially when they holler back, "AMERICA, TOO, DOES IT!"); but, I think India makes more than its share of appreciable films. Of course, the bad outweigh the good (and, of course, "good" and "bad" are matters of perception), but in an industry that produces, by a large margin, the greatest number of films annually, globally, I think the overall quality of work is not to be seen as inferior to that of America. Again, I agree with you this far: I cringe when I hear someone like Apoorva Lakhia of Sanjay Gupta boast of how his cinema is "new" ("for India") and has "never been done before" ("in India"), because those parenthetical remarks indicate that the director largely wishes to profit from others' work. In the cases of some of these people, even superficialities are left intact, sometimes not even transplanting well in India (despite how they almost always claim that the film "has been altered in accordance with 'Indian sensibilities'"). All this beration said and done, I don't feel compelled to look at an Indian film-release with suspicion; "I hope it's OK...though it is an Indian film." That just speaks detestable bias to me.


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Well I still stick by my words. It something I've come to expect with bollywood. Don't get me wrong I would love it if they could produce a flawless film and something truly original. But almost every time there are disappointments with bollywood. Bollywood has produced a few great films, but it's sickeneing when you like a film you think is original, then it is revealed that they copied hollywood for it (e.g. Black). This is the reason bollywood doesn't get respect from the rest of the world as an industry of great filmmaking. And they are definately looking for this respect, with Cannes and the IIFA's.

As for American films being so flawless, they are not either but at least not as shameless as Indian films that copy them or as we can see here their posters!

I agree. :)


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Gotta be kidding me;

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You'd think that the release of Hrithik's family film, KRRISH, where he plays a superhero, would be a feelgood, funtime for audiences across India. Not so, especially for poor tea stall owner, Jagannath, who now has a case of suicide lodged against him. During a showing of KRRISH he climbed up to the balcony and jumped, apparently in an attempt to imitate Hrithik's flying in the movie. Big difference: he's not Hrithik. He couldn't fly. He plunged 30 feet into the stalls. He's currently in stable condition.


taken from: http://www.kaijushakedown.com/2006/06/i ... easy_.html

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:lol: LMAO!


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Gotta be kidding me;

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You'd think that the release of Hrithik's family film, KRRISH, where he plays a superhero, would be a feelgood, funtime for audiences across India. Not so, especially for poor tea stall owner, Jagannath, who now has a case of suicide lodged against him. During a showing of KRRISH he climbed up to the balcony and jumped, apparently in an attempt to imitate Hrithik's flying in the movie. Big difference: he's not Hrithik. He couldn't fly. He plunged 30 feet into the stalls. He's currently in stable condition.


taken from: http://www.kaijushakedown.com/2006/06/i ... easy_.html

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Is the film industry itself to blame for this?


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ali wrote:
Gotta be kidding me;

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You'd think that the release of Hrithik's family film, KRRISH, where he plays a superhero, would be a feelgood, funtime for audiences across India. Not so, especially for poor tea stall owner, Jagannath, who now has a case of suicide lodged against him. During a showing of KRRISH he climbed up to the balcony and jumped, apparently in an attempt to imitate Hrithik's flying in the movie. Big difference: he's not Hrithik. He couldn't fly. He plunged 30 feet into the stalls. He's currently in stable condition.


taken from: http://www.kaijushakedown.com/2006/06/i ... easy_.html

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Did the writer of this even watch the film? Krrish couldn't fly (though he could jump...well). Anyway, I wouldn't be inclined to believe this little tale -- lol.


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Commando303 wrote:
ali wrote:
Gotta be kidding me;

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You'd think that the release of Hrithik's family film, KRRISH, where he plays a superhero, would be a feelgood, funtime for audiences across India. Not so, especially for poor tea stall owner, Jagannath, who now has a case of suicide lodged against him. During a showing of KRRISH he climbed up to the balcony and jumped, apparently in an attempt to imitate Hrithik's flying in the movie. Big difference: he's not Hrithik. He couldn't fly. He plunged 30 feet into the stalls. He's currently in stable condition.


taken from: http://www.kaijushakedown.com/2006/06/i ... easy_.html

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Did the writer of this even watch the film? Krrish couldn't fly (though he could jump...well). Anyway, I wouldn't be inclined to believe this little tale -- lol.


I heard it on Zee TV news.


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btw, rana check your guys silvercity down there, i phoned the one here and asked if its in dd or dts and they said its in dts, it seems kind of odd before fannah it was all dd and now out of nowhere they started getting dts, oh well its better for me
if any of you are going before saturday evening give your guys take on the movie


- I did not ask the theatre which sound format it was, as it was quite obvious from the sound that film screening was in DD. There were distinct directional sounds at various times and mainly front channels most of the film. So far, in Ottawa, we haven't seen screenings in DTS audio for Hindi films. They never ask for or never get a DTS disc. Silver City thetres are equipped with both audio formats and good ones at that.

- Diff bet Hollywood and Bollywood Super Hero films is the romance/ song and dance sequences. So, I'd rather prefer Bollywood.

- Hritik - Priyanka travel through mountains/ hills on their way to meet Hritik's mother reminded me of RTGM sequence where Mandakini leads Rajiv to Gangotri. RTGM seq was much better and interesting.

- There are a few twists and turns in the plot, unlike Hollywood S H Films.

- Krrish plot is not like HW Super Hero plots where Super Hero is out to defend America and Americans. Here, it's for himself and his family, with just a hint at possible catastrophe if evil succeeds.

- Film ending was much better than what I expected.

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BTW, kids comments:
First one: Krrih #1, Dhoom # 2.
Second One: No Way. Dhoom is still #1, Krrish # 2.
(For some reason, Dhoom clicked with my kids and Dhoom, as well as, Krrish beat Fanaa, VZ, SN, other SRK films, etc)


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Krrish plot is not like HW Super Hero plots where Super Hero is out to defend America and Americans. Here, it's for himself and his family, with just a hint at possible catastrophe if evil succeeds.

- Film ending was much better than what I expected


That is MI3 style!! Evil prof holding dad was also in HW movie LOONEY TOONES BACK IN ACTION where Brendon Fraser goes and save Timothy Dalton, with help of Gal and Toons!( next idea for Rajesh Roshan) He did not spare inspiration from nothing spared!


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I was underwhelmed. Lots of masala shenanigans. Uneven sfx (some Matrix stuff was Matrix quality but some other shots were second rate). The digital intermediate had some issues with noise and noise reduction. Some shots looked fuzzy and had color fringing...
And the assorted women at the edge of a nervous breakdown, someone please outlaw them in Bollywood. KMG was better overall.
The circus scene was decent with a nice musical theme, good visuals/pyrotechnics. The showdown was also ok. Hrithik deserves much better material than such a formulaic enterprise, though. 2 years for this is a waste of his time (except for the Roshans' bank account).


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mhafner wrote:
The digital intermediate had some issues with noise and noise reduction. Some shots looked fuzzy and had color fringing...


I think that technical nit-pickiness is a bit too much (:-D), but I agree with some of your other comments about the film. I don't, however, feel that this was a "waste" of two years of Hrithik Roshan's time.


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Commando303 wrote:
mhafner wrote:
The digital intermediate had some issues with noise and noise reduction. Some shots looked fuzzy and had color fringing...


I think that technical nit-pickiness is a bit too much (:-D), but I agree with some of your other comments about the film. I don't, however, feel that this was a "waste" of two years of Hrithik Roshan's time.


I have seen better DIs from Bollywood. And 2 years for this, well, it pays off financially and it might set a new trend and change Bollywood somewhat. In that regard it's not a waste of time. But artistically (beyond body control/stunts) he could have done several more interesting projects (Rang de Basanti comes to mind first) in that time. I expect little from "Dhoom 2" as well. Jodha-Akbar though with Gowariker looks promising.


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