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Look out for an Indian version of 'Infernal Affairs', probably after Scorcese does his version



ya you are probably right

though watching IF always reminds me of nihalani’s drohkaal (and also later there was a horrible tamil remake w/ kamal called kurudhipunal)

if you think abt it both films have the exact same premiss…

IF - the triad placing a mole in the police department, and the pd putting a mole in the triad

drohkaal - the terrorist cell having a mole in the police force, and the police force having a mole in the terrorist cell


though speaking abt the scorsese remake - I have absolutely no idea on why he insists on always casting dicaprio??

dicaprio has already ruined gony and aviator… and he probably will mess up ‘departed’ also

I really hate it when these talented directors get stuck on these crappy actors (just like ramu w/ mohit)


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Mola Ram wrote:

though speaking abt the scorsese remake - I have absolutely no idea on why he insists on always casting dicaprio??

dicaprio has already ruined gony and aviator… and he probably will mess up ‘departed’ also

I really hate it when these talented directors get stuck on these crappy actors (just like ramu w/ mohit)


I think it's because he's Italian-American and want to support young Italian-American actors, of which Leo is the only well known at the moment. He probably wants Leo to be the next DeNiro, though I don't see that happening. Because Leo was a teeny-bopper actor, with all these teenage girl-fans, it's very hard to get out of that mould and be taken seriously. I think only Johnny Depp and Kevin Bacon have been successful at that.

First time I didn't like G.O.N.Y, but when I saw it second time it grew on me. I am looking forward to 'the departed' because I'd like to see how Scorcese will handle it, he most likely will change the story a little. I hear it may be a remake of both Infernal Affairs 1 & 2. Tarantino's 'Reservoir Dogs' was quite different from Ringo Lam's 'City of Fire'. That's how I see 'The Departed' in relation to 'Infernal Affairs'. Plus Jack Nicholson playing the 'Sam' character, looks like a great choice.


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올드보이 (Oldboy) Makers Plan Vengeance on 'Zinda'
(Posted In Action Asia Film News Rumors )

zindahammer.jpgYou've read already a few reports on Twitch about the 'Indian Oldboy', Sanjay Gupta's latest film Zinda. And anybody even marginally acquainted with that world knows in Bollywood the words 'homage', 'remake' and 'rip-off' are often interchangeable, good faith or not. The outline - a man facing 14 years of captivity for no known reason, then spending the next four days looking for the culprit - sounds exactly like a certain Oh Dae-Soo's fate, held captive for 15 years, released, and looking for his enemy for the following 5 days.

But it seems some people in Chungmuro are taking it seriously. 올드보이 (Oldboy) Producers Show East talked with the press today, saying that the only remake rights contract they ever signed was with Universal in the US, and with no one else, including India. The company announced that after looking at the finished product they will make their decision, which might have legal ramifications, if the film is as similar to Park Chan-Wook's hit as it's been claimed.

A PR from Show East announced: "We're looking at the similarities between the two films, but since we don't have a final product we can judge, we'll just have to investigate a little more into what kind of relation the films will have. Since we never experienced something like this, we couldn't really set up a concrete plan. But if we find out there's indeed a strong similarity between the two, it looks like we'll have to talk with our lawyers."

Director of the 'Indian Reservoir Dogs' Kaante, Sanjay Gupta is known as one of the most stylish filmmakers in Bollywood, but his latest project might finally get him into trouble for underestimating the often very subtle difference between 'homage' and 'rip-off'.

Via Star News



Just what i wanted :bash:


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Yeah finally. The only thing that these guys understand is money :!: , so I hope the penalties are stiff


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dvdisoil wrote:

Director of the 'Indian Reservoir Dogs' Kaante, Sanjay Gupta is known as one of the most stylish filmmakers in Bollywood, but his latest project might finally get him into trouble for underestimating the often very subtle difference between 'homage' and 'rip-off'.



Dear God! They don't have to swell his ego by saying he's one of the most stylish directors on Bollywood. I think Mr Gupta knows that his rip-offs are not quite the same as a homage. Whoever wrote that article doesn't know that it's not just his latest film that is a rip-off, but most if not all the films he's made have been bad copies of hollywood films. This must've been the first time he decided to rip-off a non-hollywood film and the funny thing is only now he gets caught!
This man needs some trouble on his back, he's gotten away with it for far too long!


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Give me the addresses for Tarantino, Ringo Lam, and Oliver Stone, and I'll send them DVDs of Kaante and Musafir :D


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Give me the addresses for Tarantino, Ringo Lam, and Oliver Stone, and I'll send them DVDs of Kaante and Musafir :D


The funny thing is Tarantino knew about Kaante and was apparently 'thrilled' by the news that one of his films was being remade. He even mentioned it to Rahul Bose at a film festival - "I ripped that off from Hong Kong and now you guys have taken it from me". I'm sure Tarantino saw Kaante in the end and I'm glad he hasn't mentioned what he thought of it! :lol:

http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/50 ... _bose.html


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I don't know what he thought of it, but even if it wasn't a remake, Kaante was terrible.


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I think it's because he's Italian-American and want to support young Italian-American actors


maybe initially, but the fact that he has cast him over and over means that scorsese obviously likes the guy/his acting

this type of stuff always happens to good directors…

just like soderbergh, who imo is easily the greatest director working today, but it is beyond me why he casts that idiot clooney in every other film he makes :x

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I hear it may be a remake of both Infernal Affairs 1 & 2.


wow really? I hope not

I hated the second one, it seemed like a really bad godfather rehash or something

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Tarantino's 'Reservoir Dogs' was quite different from Ringo Lam's 'City of Fire'. That's how I see 'The Departed' in relation to 'Infernal Affairs'


right, I am sure ‘departed’ will be different and interesting enough

though casting dicaprio is a step in the wrong direction

and you gotta remember lam’s ‘city of fire’ was a horrible film and though ‘rd’ was a remake, tarantino made significant changes to the film to make it much much better

while ‘IF’ otoh, was really good to start with…


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Zinda music released with a 2 CD set and yet, Censor reports it to have no songs.

Censors applauded this film (isn't it the first time that Censors applauded a film??). Does it indicate that the film will be a flop as it's a norm that critically acclaimed films fail at Box Office?? Let's hope not.

http://www.indiafm.com/news/2006/01/05/6499/index.html

Censors applaud ‘Zinda’
By Taran Adarsh, January 5, 2006 - 22:55 IST

One rarely hears of the censors applauding a film at the end of its screening. That’s precisely what the Examining Committee of the Central Board of Film Certification did when they watched Sanjay Gupta’s ZINDA a few days ago.

The committee, which comprises of people from all walks of life, was so upbeat after the screening that not only did they congratulate Gupta for attempting something daringly different, but also asked for Sanjay Dutt’s cellphone number since they felt that they ought to congratulate the Deadly Dutt for his remarkable performance in the film. Naturally, Dutt was surprised, humbled and thrilled!

While Gupta is maintaining a veil of secrecy vis-à-vis the content of the film, what our jasoos have carried to us is…

* The final length of the film is 1.54 hours.

* The censors have cleared the film with an ‘A’ certificate, with no cuts whatsoever. In fact, the censors had offered ‘U/A’ with cuts or ‘A’ with no cuts. Gupta settled for the latter.

* There are no songs in the film.

* The film is not for the faint-hearted. Expletives like the ‘F’ word are randomly used in the film because the script demands it.

* There are a number of graphic sequences of violence and gore -- the first time on Indian screen.

* Both Sanju and John have delivered the best performances of their career.

With so much going in its favor, ZINDA should prove to be a landmark film for Gupta, Dutt and John.


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Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I am so irritated at this rip-off , if only i could sue these bastards !


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* There are a number of graphic sequences of violence and gore -- the first time on Indian screen.




Right...... :roll:


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* The film is not for the faint-hearted. Expletives like the ‘F’ word are randomly used in the film because the script demands it.

* There are a number of graphic sequences of violence and gore -- the first time on Indian screen.



All that but there is no topless nudity. :roll: The original Oldboy had sex and nudity in it. This must be Sanjay Gupta's only original contribution - not to include topless women. The strong violence and expletives are OK, but you can't have breasts in an Indian film. That's why the censors applauded, they didn't want another shaque.


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Guys, Hollywood is remaking Oldboy it seems -- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425320/

But this will be an official remake unlike Gupta's plagiarism??


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