Yeah, you are right. what's so special about Gowarikar? at least some of Dhawan,Johar film's were enjoyable.


frankly, I couldn't give a hoot about bollywood if it weren't for the Factory!


Regardless, it's a crappy film not worthy of ANY award, in ANY department. I don't recollect Lagaan's competition from that year, but I'm sure there were loads better films than Lagaan! I mean, look at the crap thats up for nominations now. I don't even want to read the Oscars threads here on zulm. I read one thread, I don't know why there are so many of them?



Finally, someone who agrees with me. oh halelujah!

no, I didn't hear abt this one! I don't hear about em until you post em here you are the Factory News Syndicator! that's great news, not specifically remake of Don(I have yet to see this film ), but the news of another RGV production. Do you know who will be directing it?

as for chatrapati, read Simhadri thread in the General forum. I'm NOT looking forward to it any longer having seen S.S.Rajamouli's Simhadri. It straight up sucks. It became a hit, which doesn't surprise me. It's no worse than Lagaan though. If you liked Lagaan, you will surely enjoy this one

someone.. posted this in another forum re: chatrapati:
http://www.fullhyderabad.com/scripts/pr ... ti&ID=3197

ROFL, Political Rowdy:
http://www.fullhyderabad.com/scripts/pr ... dy&ID=3191

don’t bother dude, it sucks… wait for ‘king’ instead

it will directed by amal neerad btw (cinematographer for ‘james’)

and that is not all… ramu has announced another mohit film - ‘shiv’ - it will be a cop film!

http://web.mid-day.com/hitlist/2005/september/119698.htm

I am really looking forward to this one -as nobody does cop films better than varma corp!

though to be honest I am not completely sold on mohit just yet… he has shown he can make a good action star but if the kid can act or not is yet to be seen

and there is going to be more from nisha also - http://web.mid-day.com/hitlist/2005/september/119768.htm

’go’ will be a romance and will star ramu’s new find gautam

this one should definitely be interesting, ramu’s ‘new finds’ are always something to look forward to

and w/ ‘mr ya miss’, ‘sholay’, ‘darna zaroori hai’, ‘darwaza bandh rakho’, ‘shock’, ‘king’, ‘shiv’, ‘go’ and ‘sarkar 2’ - there is definitely a lot to look forward to from varma corp


as for ‘chatrapati’ - I think I will still give it a watch, at least the action scenes should be good, and I do like shriya

but ya ‘political rowdy’ looks bad, even the chowta music is surprisingly bad

james remake!


RGV’s latest film stunt!

Subhash K Jha

Within two months of the original, Ramu will remake his flop action flick James, as director now. This has to be a first for cinema. And as has become customary, it comes from producer-director Ram Gopal Varma. Within two month of the release of his flop action film, James, Ramu will go on the floors to entirely remake the film on the director's seat now.

Informs the Factory boss, “I'm going to remake James right away. And this time I'll direct it myself. It isn't an emotional decision. I feel I made some radical mistakes in the film. If rectified, it has the potential of being a winner. We're starting shoot on November 1. I hope to complete the film by the end of the year and release it early next year. It will be the next release from my production house.”

To what prompted the producer to get into an immediate action-replay, Ramu points to the film reviews. He says, “A critic said there was no inner conflict in Mohit's character. I agree.”

Some detractors of actor Mohit Ahlawat's 'launch vehicle' also dubbed it as the worst film to come out of the Factory. To which Ramu argues, “That's a matter of perception. We tried to recreate the action genre from the Amitabh-Dharmendra era. We felt that the genre had been ignored. But I guess we got carried away by technical wizardry. It's easy to get carried away when you're working on 'Avid' (editing software) and you feel everything looks perfect. The content suffered in James. Some people said it's the worst film from my 'factory'.

It was a project I really believed in. I feel I've betrayed the genre that I took on. I'm personally going to take care as director this time.”

The new version of James will feature exactly the same cast and crew including of course the original leading lady Nisha Kothari and Ramu's blue-eyed boy Mohit.

Ramu admits the failure of James was a blow: “If I fail to do my job it's natural I'll try to do it again. This time I'll rectify the errors from the first version. Mohit will be now projected more as the Angry Young Man of the 70s that Mr Bachchan played. I feel the cut-off point for that genre was my own film Shiva, and Raj Santoshi's films with Sunny Deol. These films had a strong content and message. James became just a comic-book version of those films. That's where it went wrong.”

Ramu refuses to blame the James director Rohit Jugraj for the film's failure though: “He executed James exactly the way I had visualised it. In fact he executed it better than it was on paper. This time James won't be a comic-book actioner. I want the audience to connect better with the content and the main character.

Everybody from James will in my film again. Only the director will be different.”Speaking further on the failure of James, which opened to abysmal response at the theatres on September 16, Ramu sounds unnaturally mellow: “I take the blame completely for the failure of James. I was busy with Sarkar and neglected James. The love story didn't work, neither did the action. I feel responsible for failing the action genre, and for Mohit's failure. I've never felt this way about any of my protégés. I still say Mohit is brilliant and I'll prove it. It isn't Mohit but the film that failed. Didn't audiences love Mallika Sherawat in Murder and hate her in Kis Kiski Kismat?”





this is a bad idea imo

ramu keeps on saying it was a “comic-book actioner” - but that is what was so entertaining abt it

‘james’ was practically a super hero… bashing 10 to 20 bad guys at a time

from what ramu is saying he wants to make a more realistic action flick w/ “strong content and message” - but this will just take away from the ‘pulp’ nature of the film, which is why it was so fun in the first place

I guess I will have to wait and see

'Ramu can't remake Shiva, and call it a James remake'

Patcy N in Mumbai | October 21, 2005 15:40 IST


Ram Gopal Varma's recent announcement of remaking the big flop, James, has irked its director Rohit Jugraj (left in image).

Ramu (right in image) claimed that the film, starring his favourite actor Mohit Ahlawat and Nisha Kothari, would go on the floors next month, and would be a winner, and unlike what it turned out to be.

While Ramu and Rohit have parted ways after the controversy started, Rohit tries to offer an explanation. "Let me start from the beginning. RGV wanted me to do a remake of his film, Shiva -- to be called Shiv -- after I finished with James. I was initially excited. But when James flopped, I wanted to take a break, sit back and analyse what went wrong. RGV and I had a talk and agreed that we would put Shiv on hold. And I did not want to do a film on the same action genre again. I refuse to work like a clone like everybody else at the Factory! Now I hear that he wants to remake James."

Rohit claims that Ramu's film will, in fact, be a remake of Shiva that they had planned to do, and not James.

"After James released, I had to go to my hometown, Dehradun. I told RGV that I would be back with a new story idea. But when I came back, I heard of this announcement," he adds.

Rohit feels cheated because RGV did not talk to him before making the announcement.

Then he bursts out, "How can he say James was not made properly after raving about it before it released? How can his convictions about the film change once the verdict is against it?"

"Once a film is released, it can either be a hit or a flop. If it flops, that doesn't mean our convictions were wrong. We can't go about saying that the film was a mistake. How can one's convictions change overnight? If, after every film he says I made a mistake, it means that if Factory makes 10 films, five are fine and five are mistakes," he says.

"Apparently, Ram Gopal Varma told a Mumbai newspaper that I did a bad job of James. It was supposed to be Shiva, but I made something else out of it. So I asked him: Is it possible that James was under production for two years and he never knew what was happening? He approves of each and every single line in the script. What he doesn't like, he cuts. But the way he talks it sounds as though he did not see anything of the film, and suddenly just saw the final product!" exclaims Rohit.

The young director claims that RGV 'interferes' in a film from the scripting stage to the editing table, though he never comes to the sets of his films.

"I don't know his reasons of remaking the film. I don't think he is doing it for Mohit's sake. Yes, Mohit is a nice human being, and has a very good screen presence. RGV has kept him in his next ventures because he sees potential in Mohit," he says.

Rohit is candid when it comes to analysing what actually went wrong with James. "It's no secret that the second half never had a story. We had open discussions about it. Everything was made the way he wanted it -- he inserted the song sequences, the dog chase scene… all his orders have been followed."

Before signing off, Rohit added, "I have the guts to say Ram Gopal Varma and Rohit Jugraj did a bad job of James. That's it. Why should you come back and say I am going to remake James? But if he wants to, he should make a remake of James, with the same story and cast. He can't remake Shiva, and call it a James remake."

I am glad ramu isn’t remaking ‘james’

adapting 'shiva' to a cop film will be interesting though, though mohit definitely is no manoj or nana

but a cop film from varma corp is always something to look forward to

I'm also interested in watching CHATRAPATHI. I know its a mass masala movie, but the promos looks awesome. I always thought Telugu movies are technically superior to all other Indian movies. I also really like the theme song AGNI SALKANI. It's just so powerful.

http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu/mo ... 00516.html

"agNi skalana" is indeed a powerful song (sloka). The film however doesnt live upto expectations. Look here for some views

http://www.idreamdvd.com/forum/forum_po ... PN=1&TPN=1

I initially wanted to watch Chatrapathi, based on the trailers. However, I watched Rajamouli's "Simhadri" on DVD, which turned me away from Rajamouli's Chatrapathi. I will probably catch it on DVD.

RGV to immediately remake 'James'
By IANS
Oct 29, 2005, 08:49

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New Delhi, Oct 29 (IANS) Demoniacally defiant and ready to rise to a challenge at any given excuse, Ram Gopal Varma has made an unprecedented decision.

"I'm going to remake 'James' right away. And this time I'll direct it myself. It isn't an emotional decision. I feel I made some radical mistakes in the film. If rectified, it has the potential of being a winner," he told us.

"We're starting on Nov 1. I hope to complete the film by the end of the year and release it early next year. It will be the next release from my production house," he added.

It was a review that galvanized Ramu into an action replay.

"The critic said there was no inner conflict in Mohit's character. I agree."

Many of his detractors have dubbed the Mohit Ahlawat launch film 'James', released last month, to be the worst film from Ram Gopal Varma.

"That's a matter of perception. We tried to recreate the action genre from the Bachchan-Dharmendra era. We felt that the genre has been ignored. But I guess we got carried away by technical wizardry. It's easy to get carried away when you're working on an Avid (editing system) and you feel everything looks perfect," Varma maintained.

"The content suffered in 'James'. Some people say it's the worst film from my 'factory'. That came as a blow. It was a project I really believed in. I feel I've betrayed the genre that I took on. I'm personally going to take care of it this time. I want to direct this film myself now."

The new version of "James" - to be launched within two months of the original - will feature the same cast and crew, including of course the original leading lady Nisha Kothari and Ramu's blue-eyed boy Mohit.

Ramu admits the failure of "James" was a blow.

"If I fail to do my job it's natural I try to do it again. This time I'll rectify the errors in the first version. Mohit will be now projected more as the Angry Young Man of the 1970s that Mr. Bachchan played. I feel the cut-off point for that genre was my own film 'Shiva' and Raj Santoshi's films with Sunny Deol. These films had a strong content and message. 'James' became just a comic-book version of those films. That's where it went wrong," Ramu maintained.

He refused to blame "James" director Rohit Jugraj for the film's failure.

"He executed 'James' exactly the way I had visualized it. In fact he executed it better than it was on paper. This time, 'James' won't be a comic book actioner. I want the audience to connect better with the content and the main character. Everybody from 'James' will in my film again. Only the director will be different."


Ramu seems unnaturally mellow. "I take the blame completely for the failure of 'James'. I was busy with 'Sarkar' and neglected 'James'. The love story didn't work and neither did the action. I feel responsible for failing the action genre, and for Mohit's failure.

"I've never felt this way about any of my protégés. I still say Mohit is brilliant and I'll prove it. It isn't Mohit but the film that filed. Didn't audiences love Mallika Sherawat in 'Murder' and hate her in 'Kiss Ki Kismat'?"

Another audacious first for Ram Gopal Varma.


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I think Ramu went into Ghaii's state of mind!! Total denial for his crap!

OK, I just saw James, and it's bad. I mean, just horrible. The performances are fine, the cinematography and editing are nice (though pretentious in their "slickness"), and one can sit through it. That said, a good film is not one that a person "can sit through." This is just a terrible, heart-less "action film." I really didn't give two shits about any of the characters; though I enjoy action movies, I just got fed up with James's being...well, god; and I was sickened by the depiction of the Mumbai police force and D.C.P. (come on, he was the D.C. freakin' P., not a constable). I'm also sick of hearing Ahlawat be compared to Amitabh Bachchan: Mohit Ahlawat is not Amitabh Bachchan, and James is not Zanjeer. I can't believe that Varma's stupid enough to re-make this trash. "Oh, my movie sucked, so I'll just do it again." Why not just try to make a new movie with a new story, and maybe stray a bit from your tried-and-trite "factory formula"? You big ass.

....and some people just don't understand satire...