Other factories are running in the same hole too, miyan

I usually do ..., somehow missed them. sorry if thats going to hurt your viewing experience

My feelings exactly and I couldn't have said it better myself. One of the major reasons why I wish for the success of Parineeta, is not that I have a personal stake in it, but rather that it's success would encourage more films to be made on Indian literary works.

Not that I disagree with most of your views on 'GREAT' cinema, but the fact remains that cinema is not there for the sole purpose of furthering the arts. It has another very important funtion, that of simple entertainment. Parineeta for me was what I would call, good, clean entertainment and one that does not feel the need to insult my intelligence in the name of entertainment, which is what 99% of Bollywood cinema normally does.

as you started this thread sanjay! you might add in rating to your first post, out of 5 or 10, whatever you prefer, to see how it gets rated here on one and only zulm!

you got my 8/10, in your pocket lol. I am not backing up!

Dr. Chandraprakash Dwivedi's 'PINJAR' (meaning 'skeleton'), based on Amrita Pritam's highly acclaimed novel of the same name, is another great film. Amrita Pritam, was the first woman recipient of the Sahitya Akademi Award, she was also the first Punjabi woman to receive the Padma Shree. She also later on got the Jananpeeth award in 1982 for her lifetime contribution to Punjabi literature. Amrita Pritam witnessed the human tragedy of the 'Partition of India' and it's aftermath, and has portrayed through her literary works, its pathos and the degradation of human spirit that the partition caused. By the way, Amrita Pritam was also conferred the 'La Route des Indes Literary Prize' a literary honour of France for the French translation of `Pinjar'. As for the film, it is one of the most powerful films that I have seen. The film inspite of it's faults, is very well made and a must watch for all Indians and Pakistanis. It is a book/film which helps us better understand our history and the kind of toll certain events have taken on our psyche. The film stars Manoj Bajpai and Urmila Matondkar, both of whom have given absolutely stellar, award winning calibre performances in the film. Although the Filmfare awards ignored the film, but then again, that was to be expected considering the Johars and Chopras had nothing to do with the film, it did win the Screen and Zee Telefilms awards. Another consolation was that, Manoj Bajpai, won a 'special jury award' for Best Actor of 2003 for his performance in "Pinjar" at the '51st national film awards for 2003'.

Oops, I just realized this post is leading this thread off topic. But now that I have spent the time and effort typing this, I am not about to delete it. But maybe we ought to start a new thread to discuss other literary works that have been made into films before or maybe even other books that might be good contenders for translating onto celluloid.

Exaggerated fiction like GADAR got better recognition than down to earth, Pinjar!!

I agree!! Pinjar was a very well made film!

Mano Bajpai was more than a revelation to aplomb, simply one of the best performances , that I have seen in the years!
I was expecting from Urmila, but Manoj just took me all in all into his understated, most natural, yet sensative act!

He is a very underated actor! but who cares for poor Manoj infront of big fishes like SRK, AND AB!

Imho, Manoj gave AB run for his money in AKS! too!

Your wish is my command. Poll added as per your request.

i think Pinjar is a much better film than Parineeta, a little melodramtic but quite powerfull . I dont know how true it is to the book but as film it clicked for me. I gave Parineeta 4/10

I agree!!I would rate Pinjar ahead of Parineeta too!! but I wont rate Pinjar at 5/10

It is quite clear who voted 1 out of 10 but that in itself is not important, what is important is whether that rating is biased/prejudiced or not. After all, since the option of "0" rating is not there, "1 out of 10" pretty much implies that there cannot be a worse film or atleast that this film is as bad as the worst films ever made. Now come on, how in the world can one justify that. I can understand not liking the film, but to say that it ranks amongst the worst ever, I just cannot buy that. I wish people would give a little more thought to the rating process rather than just letting their emotions getting the better of them. "The only character/performance that even matters in the film is of Shekhar's, which Saif plays with crowning perfection", that very quote makes the film deserving of more than a "1" rating, and then I find it hard to believe that the wonderful music would not merit another "1 or 2" at the least. I could go on, but then again I digress, the point being, how many Bollywood films can even claim one performance that is executed with "crowning perfection"?

Well, we do have folks here who even without seeing a film and with zero objectivity, will try to put you/some one down...just for their personal gratification sake..it is unfortunate

But if some ones have seen the film and objectively did feel it was 1/10..I respect that rating!

OVERSEAS BOX-OFFICE

By Taran Adarsh, June 22nd, 2005 - 0930 hrs IST


'Parineeta' Casts A Spell!

It's PARINEETA magic at the moment! The 2005 cinematic adaptation of an early 20th century classic has cast a spell in U.K. and U.S.A. The film continued its victorious march in the two major territories, featuring in the 'Top 10' charts in U.K. and maintaining the No. 23 position in U.S.A. in its second weekend. The film has grossed an impressive [approx.] Rs. 4 crores from these two territories alone in just 10 days.

On the other hand, the new openers, BACHKE REHNA RE BABA and SILSIILAY, have been accorded a cold response in U.K. The antics of Rekha and Mallika haven't excited the moviegoers, while SILSIILAY has been the lowest opener for prolific producer Vashu Bhagnani in U.K. [see chart below].

Weekend: June 17 - 19, 2005.

U.K. BOX-OFFICE

PARINEETA [last weekend: No. 9, this weekend: No. 8]: In its second weekend, the film has collected £ 82,938 on 34 screens, with the per screen average working out to £ 2,439. Total: £ 264,080 [approx. Rs. 2.09 crores].


BUNTY AUR BABLI [last weekend: No. 11, this weekend: No. 13]: In its fourth weekend, the film has collected £ 26,646 on 29 screens, with the per screen average working out to £ 919. Total: £ 522,472 [approx. Rs. 4.15 crores].


BACHKE REHNA RE BABA has debuted at No. 19 position. In its opening weekend, the film has collected £ 6,460 [approx. Rs. 5.13 lacs] on 9 screens, with the per screen average working out to £ 718.


SILSIILAY has debuted at No. 29 position. In its opening weekend, the film has collected £ 3,120 [approx. Rs. 2.47 lacs] on 5 screens, with the per screen average working out to £ 624.
VASHU BHAGNANI FILMS IN U.K.

FILM OPENING WEEKEND [£] SCREENS AVERAGE [£]
Silsiilay 3,120 5 624
Vaada 41,417 19 2,180
Out Of Control 26,201 20 1,310
Jeena Sirf Merre Liye 41,704 15 2,780
Om Jai Jagadish 47,106 23 2,048
Deewanapan - - Total: 19,413
Rehnaa Hai Terre Dil Mein - - Total: 22,121
Mujhe Kucch Kehna Hai - - Total: 104,977
Tera Jadoo Chal Gayaa 43,791 16 2,737
Biwi No. 1 92,748 18 5,153

WAQT - THE RACE AGAINST TIME [last weekend: No. 25, this weekend: No. 30]: In its ninth weekend, the film has collected £ 2,814 on 5 screens, with the per screen average working out to £ 563. Total: £ 886,393 [approx. Rs. 7.04 crores].


JO BOLE SO NIHAAL [last weekend: No. 41, this weekend: No. 60]: In its sixth weekend, the film has collected £ 415 on 4 screens, with the per screen average working out to £ 104. Total: £ 172,718 [approx. Rs. 1.37 crores].
TOP FILMS IN U.K.
[Based on screen averages]

RANK FILM AVERAGE
1 PARINEETA £ 2,439
2 BUNTY AUR BABLI £ 919
3 BACHKE REHNA RE BABA £ 718
4 SILSIILAY £ 624
5 WAQT - THE RACE AGAINST TIME £ 563
6 JO BOLE SO NIHAAL £ 104


U.S.A. BOX-OFFICE

PARINEETA [last weekend: No. 23, this weekend: No. 23]: In its second weekend, the film has collected $ 162,492 on 47 screens, with the per screen average working out to $ 3,457. Total: $ 424,940 [approx. Rs. 1.85 crores].


BUNTY AUR BABLI [last weekend: No. 30, this weekend: No. 36]: In its fourth weekend, the film has collected $ 61,721 on 36 screens, with the per screen average working out to $ 1,714. Total: $ 901,867 [approx. Rs. 3.93 crores].
NEW YORK CITY BOX-OFFICE

BUNTY AUR BABLI [last weekend: No. 20, this weekend: No. 25]: In its fourth weekend, the film has collected $ 11,460 on 3 screens, with the per screen average working out to $ 3,820. New York total: $ 114,284.


PARINEETA [last weekend: No. 23, this weekend: No. 28]: In its second weekend, the film has collected $ 9,887 on 1 screen. New York total: $ 26,128.


BRIDE AND PREJUDICE [last weekend: No. 61, this weekend: No. 63]: In its nineteenth weekend, the film has collected $ 188 on 1 screen. New York total: $ 812,422.


*** This is amazing it is more than what I expected!

Recent Waqt, BNB, Parineeta , Bewafa patronage overseas indicates overseas audience are desperate for hindi films!

Firstly, I didn't even vote. It is precisely your very arugement on why I find most forum polls a bit pointless, because it's like giving a "Yes" or "No" answer without an explination. Secondly, I now find that a rating system of sorts(ie. 10/10, ****/****) for movies, music etc. is a bit amateur. One should get a sense of the other's collective thoughts through reading their entire overview of the film.

As for Saif Ali Khan performance; it's a class act stuffed in an empty film. While I have never really read any of Sarat Chandra Chatterjee books, Saif, to me, felt like he injected himself into the character, bringing out any possible complexity & ambiguity the original novel might possibly have to offer(leaving aside the awful climax).


Vidya Balan is a natural beauty, unintentionally, her acting reminds me of Madhuri Dixit, which is a good thing I suppose. I certainly hope to see her as a new rising talent in the future.

I apologize for being presumptuous about your vote and I also agree with you to some extent that polls do tend to limit things to 'black & white'. Even a rating system of '1 to 10' is kinda incomplete without knowing the persons thoughts and reasons behing the rating but even then the rating does give some sendse of how much a person liked or disliked a film. Personally, I find ratings very difficult to make, simply because it is hard for anynone to have a logical scientific way of rating different films viewed at different times and under different moods. Quite honestly I think that I might feel differently about a film on different days. Atleast the degree of how much I liked or disliked a film would change.

PS: I encourage everyone who has posted here and has seen the film to rate the film. It would be nice to know how everyone's thoughts about the film translate to a rating.