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ardash in march talking about yuva's music:

http://www.indiafm.com/scoop/04/mar/170 ... ndex.shtml

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Undeniably, A.R. Rahman is a complete original. And the soundtrack of YUVA more than proves the fact, living up to the humungous hype and expectations surrounding it.

When two giants - Mani Ratnam and A.R. Rahman - join hands to create music, expect nothing but sheer magic. We haven't forgotten the gems composed by Rahman in Ratnam's ROJA, BOMBAY and DIL SE…, have we? Now add YUVA to this illustrious list.

YUVA has five songs in all and one music piece, but if you ask me my favourite, it would undoubtedly be the music piece [filmed on Abhishek Bachchan, Rani Mukherji] and 'Shukriya Meherbaani' [filmed on Vivek Oberoi, Kareena Kapoor], in that order.

The 3-minute music piece proves why A.R. Rahman is still the numero uno. The orchestration is rich and the sound is amazingly different. In fact, the racy music reminds you of the music played at clubs throughout Europe. And, don't be surprised, if it takes the Indian nightspots by storm as well…


ardash in may talking about yuva's music:
http://www.indiafm.com/reviews/04/yuva/index.shtml

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A.R. Rahman's music is a mixed bag. While 'Ae Khuda' and 'Fanaa' are hummable [both are well shot], the remaining tracks are just about okay. Cinematography [Ravi Chandran] is first-rate. The stunts are fantastic, especially the climax fight on a busy road.


hmmm...


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Quick question - can anyone tell me the difference between Yuva and Ayutha Ezhuthu? yuva has been certified 12A and AE has got a 15 certificate.


I have seen the preview of the Hindi (don't ask how - :roll: ) and Tamil version...There are some differences.

Firstly, the Hindi version has a more polished climax. While the Tamil version climax lingered on with more punches, headbutts, and bloodshed. I suspect this was to satisfy the Tamil masses that love the DTS FX punches and OTT stunts - could be the reasons for the 15 certificate in UK. My mate felt there was only a subtle difference, so he might be right.

Another difference was that the Tamil version had shorter scenes, and was more to the point. The Hindi version had some extra shots and at times spelled out situations - audiences aren't that dumb Mr Ratnam!!

Also because the Hindi version had a higher budget the shot seems to improve on its Tamil counterpart. Colour grading and camera work was also miles better. I suspect that Ratnam and Chandran tested the shots on Tamil version then improved it further with the Hindi version.

While the Hindi version had better technical values, the Tamil version had a better dialogues, lyrics and overall performances.

However I actually prefered the Hindi version, and when compared to the crap currently releasing in Bollywood it does stand out better. But I still think the film could have been miles better then what it is now.

Ayngaran are planning a DVD of this film in Xmas 2004. The Hindi version will be out in two days :lol:


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From Rediff.com - is it just me, or do you guys think he appears to have over-analysed the film?

Yuva disappoints

Prem Panicker in New York | May 20, 2004 10:15 IST


Disappointment, like all human emotion, is relative -- the greater the expectation aroused in you, the greater the corresponding sense of let down.



A day later, the same Rediff.com gives glowing review to YUVA


http://www.rediff.com/movies/2004/may/21yuva.htm

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When Mani Ratnam said he may not make another Hindi movie after the commercial failure of Dil Se, many did not realise what we were going to miss.
Yuva comes as a relief to the audience in many ways.

Here's what went right with the film. Coming at a time of the general elections, this is an excellent offering from Ratnam. Without going overboard, Ratnam makes strong social statements and makes the film look realistic. A specialist in merging commercial cinema with social issues, Mani Ratnam has done it again: no fantasies, no dream sequences, no over-the-top dialogues, no embarrassing scenes depicting social awareness and sudden bursts of desh-bhakti, no item numbers, but still a complete entertainer, close to life.

The director deserves credit for shooting his films totally in India. The cinematography by Ravi K Chandran is excellent and captures the life and culture of Kolkata in all its frames. The knowledge of this medium shows and the work seems to be that of an experienced director.

But sometimes, the slick editing and fast shots look as if the movie were made by a young director getting spurts of creativity. The songs and scenes are beautifully shot with the right combination of colours to bring the effect others dream of. Mani Ratnam can truly be called a painter.

The backbone of the movie is its music. Coming from A R Rahman, the unusual is expected. Many people crib that good musicians reserve their best for some directors. Like it was said for R D Burman for Ramesh Sippy or Nasir Husain.

Well, there are only a few directors who can give free hand to such musicians and have the guts to shoot the arbitrariest of tracks. Check out the picturisation of the songs in Yuva.

If Vijay Anand's camera moved with the melody of the songs, then Mani Ratnam's camera moves with the beats. A lot of slow motion shots have been used and the music has been merged to become part of the story. Like The Legend Of Bhagat Singh and Lagaan, the background score of Yuva is excellent and guides the emotions of the viewers.

As far as the performances are concerned, Abhishek Bachchan and Esha Deol will find new fans after the release of this movie.

Bachchan Junior shows the intensity that his character needs, and Deol Junior looks naughty and innocent at the same time. Kareena comes with a controlled performance and fits the bill. Rani and Ajay are seasoned actors and deliver what was required.

Vivek Oberoi's character is an extension of his role in Saathiya and hence is convincing. Om Puri is one of the few actors who got their Bengali accents right. (Hope there won't be articles written on some rare wrong pronunciations like it happened with Devdas!)

One hopes the film is a success and Mani Ratnam is convinced that Hindi-speaking audiences want more of his non-dubbed work because we can't afford to miss films with original and Indian stories.

Yuva comes as a relief at a time of worthless mushy romances and full of sex movies with little relevance to our lives and our country.


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Rana, Thats a reader's review


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jag wrote:
Rana, Thats a reader's review


Well, it may be a good news then.

We all know when critics write good reviews, film flops.

If this glowing review is from a film fan, Yuva will be a super hit. If this review is from a publicist then who knows??


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bhaskar wrote:
Quick question - can anyone tell me the difference between Yuva and Ayutha Ezhuthu? yuva has been certified 12A and AE has got a 15 certificate.

By the way, a company called Velocity Entertainment has released Yuva in the UK :?


It was mentioned in one of the posts or elsewhere that Tamil version is a little different to suit target audience and has more gore in it. Hence, the diff in certification.


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I knew Surya would give an excellent performance. After Mounam Pesiyadhe, KAAKA KAAKA, Peralagan and Pithamagan, he is the best actor working in the Tamil films. I'm a little surprised about Meera Jasmine, but happy to hear her performance was excellent also.


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Ayngaran are planning a DVD of this film in Xmas 2004. The Hindi version will be out in two days


Way to go!! Yuva!! follows RUN!

Rana!! Yaar, if it be upto u, KISMAT/BARDASHt/RUN/YUVA..all will be HITS..KHAKEE would be SUPER HIT/BLOCK BUSTER!
Did I miss any other film, I disn'nt like!?

I really admire u! You are SO EASILY PLEASED audience!! :wink: :lol:

BTW, as always it does not EQUATE..ALL HITS are NOT GOOD, and ALL FLOPS are not BAD either!

These HIT/MISSES are not in every one's HAND/DOMAIN..

BTW! In these all hit/misses I am missing filmibuff, yaar bacha !! na shadi ke ladoo mile, and filmi buff bhi ghayab hogaya! Based in TORONTO??


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arshbhai, u are one crazy guy!! :lol: :lol:


Yuva is AWESOME, Khakee is AWESOME, Masti was AWESOME!!! Murder, Krishna Cottage were both pleasing entertainers. Ek Hasina Thi was hatke and disturbing, but was pretty powerful and thrilling. Ab Tak Chappan was pretty good. Lakeer was ok timepass - nothing special.

What movies did u like this year?


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darius25 wrote:
arshbhai, u are one crazy guy!! :lol: :lol:


Yuva is AWESOME, Khakee is AWESOME, Masti was AWESOME!!! Murder, Krishna Cottage were both pleasing entertainers. Ek Hasina Thi was hatke and disturbing, but was pretty powerful and thrilling. Ab Tak Chappan was pretty good. Lakeer was ok timepass - nothing special.

What movies did u like this year?


MHN as entertainer, Liked KISMAT songs because of Priyanka Chopra!
Khakee was AVERAGE film, with BIG WIG, I loved SCENES when DEVGAN was ON SCREEN..it was OK!

KK..come on yaar!! It was CRAP, only saving grace were few scenes of ISHA KOPIKAR! U call it ENTERTAINING..

MASTI..is LACHAR/BEHOODA film..wont even comment.

Murder..I have not seen..I loved MURDER's music.

EHT..was absolutely ENGROSING..URMILA/SAIF were BRILLIANT.

AB TAK CHAPAN..Wow Nana again..Let SRK do that role? my foot!!I swallowed those frequent FOWL CURSES too, as the were GOOD FIT to PLOT, imho.

LAKEER/RUN, and YUVA??? ha ha!

You call me CRAZY..I dont mind..if this all justify/indicate it! then MCH(MAIN CRAZY HOUN)! :lol: thnx


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My detail review is going to be uploaded at movimagic website. But in short the movie is total dissapointing. First of there is no story at all. The movie is based on the life story of three individuals . In the first story of Ajay Devgan it is a sheer miscast. Ajay is not convincing as a young political student leader. Abhishek is good but the ending of his character leaves the views dissatisfied. Vivek is not ok . Kareena on the other hand gave very good performance. As I mentioned there is no story. All knows Ajay is a student leader fighting Om Puri. Vivek ambition is to go to US. Abhishek can do anything and cospire to bump Ajay. Thats it. I think Mani has lost his touch. Dil Se was better than Yuva. In the music section there are not may songs that will elavate this movie high.

peace out 4/10


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Yuva 2 / 5 By Indu Mirani

Cast: Abhishek Bachchan, Vivek Oberoi, Ajay Devgan, Kareena Kapoor, Rani Mukherji, Isha Deol, Sonu Sood Director: Mani Ratnam Banner: Madras Talkies Music: A.R. Rahman Lyrics: Mehboob

The trouble with Yuva, directed by Mani Ratnam is that despite there being three stories involving three leading men (with leading women in tow), not one of them involves you. And when the three intermingle, whatever little interest there was falls to zero.

For one thing, the film deals with West Bengal politics, far removed from the sort of politics seen in the West and the North. Then, at least two of the love stories are lackluster, the exception being the Vivek Oberoi –Kareena Kapoor one which is quite enchanting.

The film opens with an incident on the Howrah bridge in which Abhishek Bachchan shoots at Ajay Devgan who is on a two wheeler. Vivek Oberoi observes this shooting. The film then takes long detours into each one’s life and the circumstances that have brought them here together to this particular point.

And so we look into the world of Abhishek first. He is a Bihari, a gun for hire, given to violent bursts of temper whenever his will is thwarted. A recipient of his temper is often his wife Rani Mukherjee who disapproves of his choice of profession and voices her concerns all the time. Abhishek has been brought into the line by his brother Sonu Sood, a goon for MLA Om Puri. Eventually when Abhishek gets too big for his boots Sonu is ordered to kill him but Abhishek turns the tables on him only to eventually die on Howrah Bridge while his wife leaves for the village.

Then comes Ajay, a student leader, who decides to take on the politicians at their own game. He clashes with Om Puri too. This is the most ambiguous of the stories. The girl in his life is Esha Deol, who teaches French and to believe that Esha teaches while he is still a student is to push the limits of ridiculousness. If he is MLA, why he needs to go to villages to campaign is also never made clear. Surely his constituency could not cover both the urban as well as rural areas.

Vivek Oberoi’s life is relatively less complicated. He is a Casanova who loses his heart to Kareena Kapoor, a girl on the brink of getting engaged. They decide to spend a few days together just for fun with no emotional bindings but of course that escalates quickly. When he meets Ajay he is impressed enough to join politics with him and since he recognizes Abhishek as Ajay’s would be killer the three have an appointment to keep. They converge once again on Howrah Bridge to settle their differences once and for all.

The film tries oh so hard to be cool and young. So it is hinted that Ajay and Esha and Vivek and Kareena have been sleeping together. If that was all it needed to appeal to the youth any film could be a hit.

Mani Ratnam once again after Dil Se ventures into territory he does not understand fully and ends up making a hash of the film. His cinematic style too comes into question when the film does not move anywhere for the longest time imaginable. He takes six stars and makes a boring mess of a film.

Music by A R Rahman and cinematography by Ravi Chandran are the two praise worthy aspects of the film.

Abhishek walks away with the honours in this film. His role is the best defined and he goes through it with the ease of a veteran. Ajay is ill at ease and except when doing action, awkward. His romantic scenes with Esha in particular are very badly done. Vivek overacts and despite having the best romantic scenes does not impress. Rani is very expressive, her eyes conveying fun, grief and anger very well. Esha Deol is awful, the girl needs urgent lessons in acting and diction. Kareena Kapoor has been presented gorgeously and goes through her role with elan. Om Puri is more caricature than character. A film to be seen to figure out what has gone wrong with the wonder kid of yesterday Mani Ratnam.


** haat kangan ko arsi kaya/ we will see it on weekend on dvd with our own eyes!


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arsh wrote:

You call me CRAZY..I dont mind..if this all justify/indicate it! then MCH(MAIN CRAZY HOUN)! :lol: thnx


i was just joking man, don't mind!! lol

and about KK, well i liked it mainly cause it wasn't boring and the story was atleast somewhat timepass. I hate Sohail Khan but i LOVE natasha. She can't really act well but looks very hot in my opinion. Isha looked pretty nice too.

For me, if a movie keeps me interested and is relatively short and doesn't keep me bored, then I would say its interesting. Lets just say that Krishna Cottage as a whole didn't let me keep looking at my watch like Main Hoon Na did.

I forgot about Main Hoon Na, but i thought the movie was just plain mediocre except for the college scenes. The college scenes were good and every scene between Sush and SRK was just absolutely FANTASTIC. The fight scenes were cheesy and horrible, but I loved the last fight scene only to see SRK getting beaten the pulp out of him by Sunil Shetty.


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darius25 wrote:
arsh wrote:

You call me CRAZY..I dont mind..if this all justify/indicate it! then MCH(MAIN CRAZY HOUN)! :lol: thnx


i was just joking man, don't mind!! lol

and about KK, well i liked it mainly cause it wasn't boring and the story was atleast somewhat timepass. I hate Sohail Khan but i LOVE natasha. She can't really act well but looks very hot in my opinion. Isha looked pretty nice too.

For me, if a movie keeps me interested and is relatively short and doesn't keep me bored, then I would say its interesting. Lets just say that Krishna Cottage as a whole didn't let me keep looking at my watch like Main Hoon Na did.

I forgot about Main Hoon Na, but i thought the movie was just plain mediocre except for the college scenes. The college scenes were good and every scene between Sush and SRK was just absolutely FANTASTIC. The fight scenes were cheesy and horrible, but I loved the last fight scene only to see SRK getting beaten the pulp out of him by Sunil Shetty.


NP, with DUE apologies, and being not a fan of CHEESY LONG FLICKS, I found MHN, the BEST TIME PASS flick, with all its SHORT COMINGS, and they are NOT A FEW!, there is NOTHING outstanding abt it!! It is all REHASHED, GOOD FORMULA!!
Dont remind me SRK and ACTIOn..I dont wana get started again! :roll:

I find CHOTTU AAMIR more plausable as Commando in SARFAROSH than SRK in MHN etc!


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arsh wrote:



Rana!! Yaar, if it be upto u, KISMAT/BARDASHt/RUN/YUVA..all will be HITS..KHAKEE would be SUPER HIT/BLOCK BUSTER!
Did I miss any other film, I disn'nt like!?

I really admire u! You are SO EASILY PLEASED audience!! :wink: :lol:

BTW, as always it does not EQUATE..ALL HITS are NOT GOOD, and ALL FLOPS are not BAD either!




Definitely, I liked KISMAT, BARDAASHT and KHAKEE. But, note that same films on small screen are dud. Proper presentation makes a big difference.

I liked KISMAT the most followed by Khakee and then Bardaasht. Pasand Apni Apni, ------.

BTW, as per the reviews, looks like I will like Yuva (Hindi or Tamil) as well provided it's in a proper DD/ DTS, as applicable, theatre.

arsh wrote:


These HIT/MISSES are not in every one's HAND/DOMAIN..



All films can be hits if their costs would have been half of what actually cost them. In other words, if wages were half. In other words if lead actors/ actresses accepts 1 crore instead of 2 crore.

Recall, Feroz Khan took a table loss, sold the film at half the price and film qualified as coverage. If he had sold it at the real price, it would have suffered 50% loss ending up with DISASTER rating (one below Flop).


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