I have beutiful Dupes of K3G, Hum dil De Chuke Sanam, now the originals are Anamorphic, but when I tried these on my brand new widescreen they don't play as Anamorphic, the bars are still there...so is it cause they are dupes and some thing to do with that?

ha ha!!!veej..it is tricky buisness, man!

i have dupes that are anamorphic. just because a dvd is anamorphic does not mean that the black bars will disappear; anything in a ratio over 1.85:1 (like 2.2:1 or 2.35:1) will always have black bars on a 16:9 display. in order to check if your dvds are anamorphic, all you have to do is put your dvd player in 4:3 mode, and if the picture looks the same as when the dvd player is in 16:9 mode, then your dvd is not anamorphic.

IF IT WILL BE ME, THEON, I WILL CHECK OUT THOSE ANAMORPHIC DUPES? TO CONFIRM, TRUE VS PSEUDO ANAMORPHIC

arsh, are you asking me to check my dupes? i'm pretty sure they're proper anamorphic (not pseudo).

YES, I AM BELIEVE ME, ANAMORPHIC DUPES R TRICKY..

So how do you properly check these dupes?

YOU HAVE TO HAVE APROPER WIDESCREEN DISPLAY TO DISPLAY THESE AS ANAMORPHIC AND THEN A PAIR OF EYE BALLS THAT CAN JUDGE GEOMETRY OF IMAGE!

IT ALWAYS PAYS TO STAY OBJECTIVE ON ZULM, BELIEVE ME!

the one bad anamorphic dupe that i have is one of mohabbatein. the picture size is in the proper ratio for a widescreen tv, but keeps the same ratio (and is thus vertically stretched) when playing in 4:3 mode.

geometry is only one part of telling if you have a proper anamorphic dvd. it seems that some pirates like to rip the anamorphic picture so it displays well in 16:9 mode, but not in 4:3.

U HAVE TO PLAY THESE IN 16:9 MODE, MIYAN

Just wanna make sure Veej knows Widescreen tvs will not get rid of black bars. All 2.35.1 AR movies (which is 99% of Indian movies) will have small black bars when displayed on a 16:9 tv. If you already know this, just ignore this post.

yes, i agree, that is a valid explaination, that might be his only prob, he might not have thought abt pseudo prog

Thanks Spike I did'nt know this about the desi flicks, just thought it was same as the english stuff, so whats pseudo prog ?

It's only a term of convenience, I used once, and later Ganti (another zulmi Progressive DVD buff) liked it and hence we kept on using it to describe a certain type of encodings.

As film runs at 24 frames per sec, a Progressive NTSC DVD encoding records it in 48 fields with instructions to repeat every 4th field. This should be the default method of NTSC DVD encoding. For this type of encoding, this is the first basic test that a Progressive DVD player looks for and recreates the original film frames for display. This is what we call a Progressive DVD.

There are reasons (mostly economical and ignorance), why many Indian DVDs record the repeated field all over again, instead of a repeat instruction (flag) to the player. (There are no flags). This type of encoding can be identified if consequitive fields are compared pixel by pixel. It's do-able but may or may not succeed in creating the original film frames, depending on noise. This is what we refer here as Pseudo-Progressive, (which actually is interlaced).

A third category of encoding (most of present day Indian DVDs) has 60 fields per sec and all/ some or many fields containing averaged information (from more than one film frame). You can imagine, you can never obtain the original film frames. This is what we refer here as Interlaced DVD.

Rana

Dupes or Pirates:

Any thing is Possible.

They may or may not be pirates. They might even be cheaper (time Bomb) version, released officially or unofficially.

You may get a real anamorphic DVD.

You may get non-fixable stretched picture on 4:3 TVs. (Will play in proper Geometry on widescreen TVs).

You may get proper geometry but 4:3 letterboxed).

The content may be from different source. Not related to markings on the cover.

There are many originals that are on cheap media and their dupes are on superior media.


In my experience, the best dupes that I bought and that were still anamorphic like originals, were on cheaper media. So, no economy here if a dupe stops playing in 6 months and original was on superior Gold media which might last longer.

The worst ones that I got were those with markings of one brand and content a copy of a totally different version.

Well, what can you expect for $ 3?? But, it's perfect to compete with the rental market. If by chance you get a good DVD, that's a bonus.

Rana