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L.O.C.

By Taran Adarsh

First things first!
# Does J.P. Dutta's war epic L.O.C. meet the gargantuan expectations of the viewer?
# Can a war epic, which has a running time of 4 hours, keep the viewer glued to the screen for such a long duration?
# And most importantly, does the film succeed in presenting to the common man the Indian Army's valiant win on the highest battlefield of the world – Kargil?

Beat the drums, blow the bugle and roll the red carpet for J.P. Dutta and his heroic team of L.O.C. The year 2003 may not have started on a promising note, but it does end on a magnificent note with L.O.C.

So, what's the 'story' like? L.O.C. has no 'story' as such – in fact, it encompasses the facts and presents it in 4 concise hours for the viewer to comprehend the heroic win of our Jawans.

Director J.P. Dutta has tackled various genres in the past, in the form of GHULAMI, YATEEM, HATHYAAR, BATWARA, KSHATRIYA, BORDER and REFUGEE. But he seems most comfortable attempting a war film. L.O.C. more than proves it!

In a nutshell, the war epic sweeps you completely off your feet!

L.O.C. is based on a number of true stories from the Kargil war. What intrigues you is the way the Jawans fought the war, so that the nation could eat, live and sleep in peace. When they [Jawans] became heroes, it wasn't because they wanted to be one, it was because they were thinking of the motherland, India. The Jawans who freed India from the enemies were a bunch of ordinary mortals, who have been immortalised by J.P. Dutta in this flick.

For those of us who never went to war and learned of its horrors only through the reports, L.O.C. reveals the brutal reality, hurling the viewer into the midst of an inferno of twisted metal, shrieking shells and human agony. It is probably the most vivid and visceral war film ever witnessed on the Indian screen.

One has to consider L.O.C. from at least two points of view, that of history and specifically of the history of the Kargil war and from the audience's point of view. L.O.C. is both a remarkable technical achievement and a horrifying reminder of the consequences of going to war.

The viewer is not soothed or manipulated by song-dance items here, but instead we hear the sounds of bullets hitting metal and bone, skin being ripped apart and burned. There are only life-sized, vulnerable men, being forced to be either victims or heroes – or both.

L.O.C. works primarily because it shows the world the harsh reality without pulling any punches. The story about our soldiers is told with competency. The story manages to move us through all sorts of different landscapes and scenarios, giving us an unforgettable glimpse of a world unknown to most of us.

Undeniably a brilliant director, amongst the best cinematic storytellers of our times, J.P.'s latest work is embellished with razor-edged dialogues [O.P. Dutta], amazing cinematography [Karim Khatri], well executed war sequences [Bhiku Verma] and effective background score [Aadesh Shrivastava]. In short, L.O.C. is a demonstration of his cinematographic skills.

Directorially, J.P. knows how to convey his feelings about men in combat, and he has the tools, the money and the collaborators to make it possible. His cinematographer brings a newsreel feel to a lot of the footage. And that's a big compliment!

Anu Malik's music gels well with the mood of the film, but it lacks that one patriotic song that remains with you even after years ['Kar Chale Hum Fida Jaan-o-tan Saathiyon' and 'Ae Mere Watan Ke Logon' sound fresh even today!].

Any hiccups? Yes!

The film can do without the romantic track of some principal characters towards the second half. The track comes as a major hindrance and the song that follows ['Pyaar Bhara Geet Koi'] takes the graph downwards.

Actually, this track gives an impression that since the director has roped in so many actors, he wanted to do justice to each of them.

Now to the performances!

With a massive cast like the one assembled in this film, it is rather difficult to pinpoint every actor and talk about their on-screen work. But, must add, after years of watching screen heroes go through an extended adolescence, it's a pleasure to encounter the same names act as grown-up men this time around.

The performances that stand out in this war epic are [in this order] – Ajay Devgan, Saif Ali Khan, Abhishek Bachchan and Manoj Bajpai.

Ajay gets into the skin of the role and delivers a performance that's sure to win accolades. Saif is getting better with every film. He manages to stand out despite the heavy line-up. Abhishek Bachchan is extremely likeable. This is amongst his superior performances. Manoj Bajpai is controlled and the camaraderie he shares with Ashutosh Rana is fantastic.

Sanjay Dutt's role doesn't have much meat, while Suniel Shetty is relegated to the backseat. Akshaye Khanna is alright.

The leading ladies don't get much scope. Yet, Kareena Kapoor stands out of the crowd, followed by Esha Deol.

On the whole, L.O.C. is a powerful experience. It has power-packed direction and power-packed sequences that remain etched in your memory even after the show has concluded. More than anything else, L.O.C. is a triumph for the master film-maker who has the guts and the vision to make a film of this magnitude!

Rating:- * * * *


Review @ IndiaFM.com


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Well I've seen it and while it is a full blown epic, it is not nearly as good as some of J.P. Dutta's earlier masterpieces and is not well constructed as Border. Some parts are really good (especially some of the latter ones in the 2nd half) but there are many sequences which could have been easily edited out. The movie drags in several places and is filled with so many different characters that it is really hard to follow what's going on.

Let's just say that the characters are really poorly written and we don't get to know much about them, let alone feel sympathy for them (who the hell is Sanjay Dutt, Sunil Shetty, Nagarjuna, etc. Sanjay Kapoor nearly pops up out of nowhere, while Akshaye Khanna - one of the rare survivors - is easily one of the most unlikeable characters in the movie).

About the performances - none of the actors have any scope to perform. Ajay Devgan gets some two good sequences - once in the beginning and a couple more towards the end. He completely disappears for a gap of over 2 hours!! Saif impresses in a very good performance and I wish he was the focus of the whole movie. Abhishek Bachchan is also quite tolerable (rare!) in his role and while I hate all his performances, I wish he had a bigger role here. Sanjay Dutt and Sunil Shetty have a probable combined time of under an hour and as such don't have any scope what so ever. Nagarjuna gets third billing but is in the movie for one scene, lasting less than 5 mins. Akshaye Khanna is throughout the movie, but his character is a wimp that doesn't really do much. He is also very horrible. Sanjay Kapoor gets some scope during the second half... but as I said before he just pops up out of nowhere. And of course the best actors of the lot are Manoj Bajpai and Ashutosh Rana and guess what - they are the comedy relief!!!! Even so, they manage to entertain me and I wish they had bigger roles in the movie. No one else has any significant role. Out of the girls, only Kareena Kapoor, Esha Deol and Rani Mukherji have speaking parts - and of course Rani is best of the bunch. Nonetheless all of the girls combined have a runtime of maybe 20 minutes.

And yes I have to comment on an important topic - not only is the film badly edited and poorly written, it is completely one sided and totally racist. While I'm a proud Indian and quite patriotic, I can see that this movie will definately offend any Pakistani and as such I'd advise them to watch with caution. The movie has nothing but pure hatred towards Pakistan and has everyone take a potshot at the country, often with very harsh swearing. I could just see some poor old grandma going into this movie, and just fainting at some of the language of the film. I'm actually ashamed to admit that J.P. Dutta is from the same country as I am. While there are many people trying to cause goodwill and friendship between both countries, here comes this stupid motherfucker looking to start another war.

In the end, all I have to say is that J. P. Dutta has disappointed yet again. I do like the fact that he decided to tackle such an ambitious epic, but he botched it up beyond belief. And to top it off, he created such an offensive film that even some Indians would be ashamed of liking it.




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darius25 wrote:
it is completely one sided and totally racist. While I'm a proud Indian and quite patriotic, I can see that this movie will definately offend any Pakistani and as such I'd advise them to watch with caution. The movie has nothing but pure hatred towards Pakistan and has everyone take a potshot at the country, often with very harsh swearing. I could just see some poor old grandma going into this movie, and just fainting at some of the language of the film. I'm actually ashamed to admit that J.P. Dutta is from the same country as I am. While there are many people trying to cause goodwill and friendship between both countries, here comes this stupid motherfucker looking to start another war.

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it is completely one sided and totally racist.

It'll be a hit then! It's an Indian film not a Pakistani film. And as it's aimed at Indian audiences, the Indians are the good guys while pakistan the bad guys. If pakistan made their version they would be the good guys with the indians as the bad guys.

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I can see that this movie will definately offend any Pakistani and as such I'd advise them to watch with caution.

I doubt many pakistanis will go see it anyway, I mean how many indians went to see larki punjaban??? L.O.C is not aimed at a paki audience anyway.

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I could just see some poor old grandma going into this movie, and just fainting at some of the language of the film.

That seems to be the new trend with Indian movies such as Boom and Kaante. But I do believe that soldiers do use bad language especially in tense situations such as war. So I think it's OK if done in the right context. This film should then be adult certificated.

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While there are many people trying to cause goodwill and friendship between both countries, here comes this stupid motherf***er looking to start another war.


Oh puh-lese! This is a war film based on a war that actually happened quite recently. If it's a war film do you really expect to see India and Pakistani soldiers singing "ring-a-ring-of-roses" with each other? Do you expect them to kiss each other's arse? I'm sorry, but you should've known better, going to see a film like this then complaining about how 'shocked' you were. In a real war, India and Pakistani soldiers' love their country and hate each others....and I'm pretty sure Indian soldiers insult Pakistan all the time as do Pakistani soldiers insult Indians. So what is wrong if J.P Dutta is showing this hatred on film? Is he lying? I don't think so. As for films which tries to build bridges...I don't think pinjar did as well as hoped.

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And to top it off, he created such an offensive film that even some Indians would be ashamed of liking it.


Yep I'm sure 'some' Indians would. But I remember 'Gadar' was deeply offensive to 'some' people too and yet it was a huge hit of that year. What does that tell you? that Indians like to see this sort of stuff. If there's a demand there's gonna be a supply.


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saw it at i max the print wasnt that good, the sound was the best(dts) but the movie wasnt that good as refugee/border
mostly everything was realistic (not including songs) except one thing this might be a SPOILER
but when monoj bajbhai got shot a lot of times he still alive and he survived when he did not even get medical help right away


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darius25 Posted on Dec. 25 2003,19:36
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Well I've seen it and while it is a full blown epic, it is not nearly as good as some of J.P. Dutta's earlier masterpieces and is not well constructed as Border


If Border is considered well constructed by Indian (read low) standards - then I don't know what to expect from this one.

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Let's just say that the characters are really poorly written


Written? But there's no script to speak of.


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i might have to watch this crap just for the sake of the paki-bashing... i enjoy watching such films :D


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i saw this thursday night!! and i didnt think it was that good...
yes there is alot of paki-bashing and alot of patrioism which are the only parts that will excite the crowds...

the songs are too long...
some scenes are good in the beginning...but it just gets repetitive and boring..
the scene with the battery powered phone will having u pulling ur hair at coz it comes at a time when the story should actually be moving forward...and it just slllllllllooooooooowsssssssss everything down...

the whole movie u end up waiting and waiting for a twist like Osama Bin Ladin to pop up or Musharraf to do something but lol nothing..

and everytime someone dies...a friend comes..then they have that music...followed by a flashback...followed by an inspirational speech....this is ok the first few times...but then it just pisses u off!!

final song is good...kareena looks like shes gone mental in the end...u can still see the scar on eshas forehead and the only scene that i really loved is the first time ajay devgan and his troops actually go into battle..that was good..

comedy scenes are ok..akshaye was probably the best actor...i only really felt sorry for manoj bajpai and his friend...

they shouldnt have edited the swear words..that would have been even a better experience lol.....




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except one thing this might be a SPOILER
but when monoj bajbhai got shot a lot of times he still alive and he survived when he did not even get medical help right away

Indian directors always have to mess up their films by putting in one or two stupid & rediculous scenes. There has rarely been any Indian film without a stupid scene it's either an action but mostly comedy scenes that manage to mess up a movie (though dialogue is getting there). And you would've thought JP Dutta knew better, I just hope it's not as silly as Hindustan Ki Kasam!


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LOC Kargil TRIMMED BY 20 to 45 Min.

If you want to watch the original full version, better watch it quick before North American Exhibitors start trimming it, if they haven't done it already.

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/

BOX OFFICE UPDATE-27th December 20.00 IST

J P Dutta's LOC Kargill has been trimmed by J P Dutta by 18 minutes and at some places the exhibitors have done the editing themselves by up to 45 minutes as expected.The opening ranged from the good(Delhi/UP) to the extraordinary(Rajasthan,Bihar and CI).The film will create new first week net gross in circuits like Rajasthan and Bihar but may short fall of the first week record set by Kabhie Khushi Kabhi Gham in 2001.The film will make money in every territory but is unlikely to become the biggest hit of the year which many had predicted.

Munnabhai MBBS is a good fare in the Mumbai circuit and average in others but a loser in West Bengal and Rajasthan.

Fun2shh is a loser all over.

Kal Ho Na Ho has steadied in some centers especially in UP but its run is now nearly over in places like Bihar,CPCI and Rajasthan and its losses range from 50%(Bihar) to 10%(Rajasthan) in these regions.Mumbai is superhit,Delhi/UP is hit,South and West Bengal is overflow while East Punjab is coverage.

FIRST ALL INDIA AVERAGE

LOC Kargill 90-95%


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will this mean that it will go the same fate as MPKDH dvd


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L.O.C. was a shite film, can't believe its the same director who gave us wonderful fares like Yateem and Gulami!!!

Its sad that the tale of the tragic Kargil War and its soliders are played with such melodramatics. I blame the screenplay and laughable dialouges by O.P Dutta which results in many cringing moments.

wasted budget, wasted casted and wasted time....get HBO's band of brothers instead!!!


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**********POSSIBLE SPOILERS*********
First of all I can't believe Taran Adarsh gave this movie 4 stars! 4 freakin stars! WTF?? I saw this movie with 4 friends in Oceanside, Long Island, and we could barely keep ourselves in the theater. The only people that seemed interested were a few aunties and uncles. Most young people walked out.

As far as the movie, well, it is an embarassment to soldiers everywhere. They seemed to be attacking the same fucking bunker in every single battle. The way they attack them are laughable too!! One thing soldiers are taught is to run zigzag when attacking and not straight with the whole company, yelling!! Also, when Manoj Bajpai's company relaxes during one battle, everyone freakin goes to rest. In reality there are a few people that stand watch so they don't get a surprise attack!! These things aren't complex military strategy. They are common sense items that directors would watch for. Plus, the characters all seemed to be really dry and felt no different from each other, even though most actors tried their level best to put life into their roles.

As a war movie with this many soldiers, there could have been better character development. It seemed that JP Dutta wanted to represent 'actual' soldiers without making them look bad by giving them bad qualities. He would save complaints from the soldiers' families and friends this way.

It's just sad that so many people shed tears for Kal ho na ho with just SRK dying and this movie had multiple deaths and I couldn't spot anyone feeling bad including myself, due to the way the movie was presented. While this movie works as a tribute to soldiers, it is not a sincere one. I really can't believe the fucking producers made this movie and tried to profit from stories of brave people that put their lives on the line. HATEFUL WASTE OF FILM!!!!!! Save your money and buy something for your loved ones instead!!!


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What did anyone expect? J.P. Dutta has always been a horrible filmmaker, with that sorry excuse of a film called Border, second only to Anil Sharma's The Hero. This is what happens when you shoot movies without a script. And without a brain.


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LOC could have been very good....but sohmewhere in all those things that Dutta did (producing, writing, directing, editing) he forgot one basic thing - story telling !

Its a confused docu-drama at best and thoroughly uni-dimensional. I really wish Dutta had woven the story from the Pakistani perspective as well a bit.....there are enough soundbytes in the form of Musharraf's famous transmission to his soldiers in the field (leaked by the American intelligence agencies and carried by most news sites at one time) to base the premise for the Kargil intrusion, at least hypothetically. Instead he safely plays to boxoffice demands and keeps the viewpoint from the Indian side of the barbed wire fence.

In any case, it might well work with some people, though the length is frankly baffling. It almost seemed as if he was ensuring that all the big names in the starcast got a fair amount of screen time - which is frankly rather silly and compromising on the minimum that cinema needs to be all about - story telling !!!

Another movie from Dutta that will soon be forgotten.


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