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DragunR2
 Post subject: Kill Bill Volume 1
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:14 am 
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Anyone see Kill Bill Volume 1 yet? It is a terrific nod to Chinese and Japanese martial arts films. The actors give the perfect amount of seriousness to the ridiculousness of the film. Yuen Wo Ping's fight choreography is excellent.

Blood flows copiously, so the film is not for the faint of heart, but if you are the type to see it, chances are you will know that it is all tongue-in-cheek.

I hope you guys in the UK won't get an edited version of the film.



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I just saw Kill Bill vol. 1 and its genuinely well crafted by Tarantino. Good use of voice-overs to advance the narrative, and I notably liked it's background music, the editing really gives the film its intentionally dark humoristic Asian martial arts entertainment and moody video game like feel. Good cinematography as well, which is always a plus point to my taste, it showcases alot of eye-pleasing colours during its fight & animation sequences. I had fun watching this film, it's a good movie, not to give away too much, but the ending dialogue was a little corny(though, I assume this was intentionally done by Tarantino as most martial arts video game leave us the same way). However, overall it's certainly not the masterpiece I was expecting Tarantino to deliver, which to some extent, is a disappointment.

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However, overall it's certainly not the masterpiece I was expecting Tarantino to deliver, which to some extent, is a disappointment.

Volume 2 will probably give greater weight to the story as a whole. I hope both films will be available on DVD as one feature. Come on, Weinsteins, Quentin made Miramax what it is, give him his 3 hour bloody martial arts film :)



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KILL BILL -presented in SHAW SCOPE (talk about giving homage :p )

I really liked this movie. Quentin's use of music was absolutely brilliant ( the title song wow!). Anybody noticed the psycho girl from 'Battle Royale', she was amazing. The cinematography, one of the best I seen this year. The long steadicam/crane shot in 'charlie brown''s restaurant was way cool. Yamaha's and Samurai swords, can't get any cooler than that. :laugh:
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Best movie of the year. A must for lovers of martial arts movies.

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The long steadicam/crane shot in 'charlie brown''s restaurant was way cool.

Tarantino even made a few references to his own films, unless some of them were originally homages to other films. Uma did the "square" thing, but without an actual square appearing. We see a billboard for Red Apple cigarettes in the background. I found the slow-mo walking scene with Lucy Liu and her guys all in suits reminiscent of Reservoir Dogs. The Steadicam shot was similar to the one in Pulp Fiction following John Travolta around Jackrabbit Slim's.

Look at all the female characters in this film. Uma Thurman, Vivica A. Fox, Lucy Liu, Daryll Hannah, the girl from Battle Royale. I don't think I've seen an action film where so many of the characters are women.

I don't know if it is the best movie of the year, but so far it is the most fun.



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DragunR2 wrote:
DVD Collector wrote:
However, overall it's certainly not the masterpiece I was expecting Tarantino to deliver, which to some extent, is a disappointment.

Volume 2 will probably give greater weight to the story as a whole. I hope both films will be available on DVD as one feature. Come on, Weinsteins, Quentin made Miramax what it is, give him his 3 hour bloody martial arts film :)

True. But Quentin Tarantino should have said "screw it" to the rules since Miramax forced Tarantino to divide Kill Bill into two different volumes because of supposidly excessive violence in the film. And in all honesty, Kill Bill Vol.1 wasn't full of that much brutality that it would disgust the viewer (or, me atleast). I was disgusted by the violence in Pulp Fiction in its near 3 hour duration, but I still loved the movie. In any case, I'm also eagerly awaiting Vol 2. I can't wait to see Michael Madsen & Samuel L. Jackson characters, Tarantino has always utilized these two onscreen with dead-on performances.

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I don't know if it is the best movie of the year, but so far it is the most fun.
The most fun at the movies I've had all year has been through watching the underrated "Down With Love".

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I think the film lives upto my expectations of Tarantino's work. The film pays fitting homage to the Sonny Chiba films and genrally to Far Eastern Cinema that I grew up watching...with even a couple of in-jokes that not many people got...

A great film and I certainly will look forward to VOL - 2 but I think I've got an idea what will take place in that...and so do many film fans of Far Eastern Cinema...

Speaking of that check out Gordon Liu I think he looked cool in the teaser trailer of Kill Bill Vol 2 as the white haired kung fu master...time does indeed fly...
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It just hit me, and Film Critic Jonathan Rosenbaum explains it best:

[color=red]"...the dialogue, less spiky than usual, uses bitch as often as his earlier films used nigger, and most of the stereotypes are now Asian rather than black. If Jim Jarmusch's Ghost Dog was a response of sorts to Tarantino, then Tarantino returns the compliment here with the RZA music and the mixture of Japanese and Italian genre elements."

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DVD Collector wrote:
And in all honesty, Kill Bill Vol.1 wasn't full of that much brutality that it would disgust the viewer (or, me atleast). I was disgusted by the violence in Pulp Fiction in its near 3 hour duration, but I still loved the movie.

Pulp Fiction actually isn't excessively violent. At least not to me. The impact comes mostly from good framing and editing of the shots, except the big splatter scene. But even in that we only see the windshield. I have a dark sense of humor, so I found the scene hilarious :D The violence in Kill Bill is so over-the-top that it is humorous.
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I'm a more recent fan of Quentin's flicks, but the movie did impress me quite a bit. The big part of the movie is Quentin's direction itself. Its too bad the second one releases in 2004, I'll definetely be looking forward to it!
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The impact comes mostly from good framing and editing of the shots,


The scene of the Bride getting her revenge on Buck at the hospital made me cringe, even though we don't see anything.


I just read somewhere that the showdown at 'the house of blue leaves' scene went B&W in the middle of the fight was to please MPAA and to avoid getting an NC-17. Now that's truly disturbing! :devil:
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spike86 wrote:
I just read somewhere that the showdown at 'the house of blue leaves' scene went B&W in the middle of the fight was to please MPAA and to avoid getting an NC-17. Now that's truly disturbing! :devil:

That's what I assumed. I read that in Japan the scene is in color. An unrated version better be available on DVD.

The MPAA do boneheaded things sometimes, such as rating Whale Rider, Bend it Like Bechkam, and School of Rock PG-13. These films had no reason to be anything above PG.

If someone is going to see Kill Bill, chances are they aren't going to be fazed by blood. They don't seem to take into account the audience of a film when handing down their ratings. If a teenager wants to see a movie like Thirteen, he should be allowed to. Better to see that than some piece of crap PG-13 teen movie.
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This film also suffers from the same DNR problem that was mentioned in the thread on Seabiscuit. It's terrible b/c this ruins the colorful cinematography. I really hope that people will realize what this process does to films and how the image becomes duller as a result.
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ajy1 wrote:
This film also suffers from the same DNR problem that was mentioned in the thread on Seabiscuit. It's terrible b/c this ruins the colorful cinematography. I really hope that people will realize what this process does to films and how the image becomes duller as a result.

I noticed some blurring and wondered if it was DNR or motion blur. I await Mhafner's comments. The digital intermediate was done by Technique.

Thanks, Mhafner, for ruining my DVD and movie viewing experience forever :) :tounge:
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