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I have just been informed by my inside sources that Devdas has no chance to get an Oscar nomination. Infact the film didn't even go well with the jury members of the Academy. They've even felt that the film was a bit too long, thus signs of lack of interest in the film at all. Sorry all you die-hard-hard-core Shah Rukh Khan fans, but maybe next time. :bash:

And if you ask me, the peak of the International success Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Devdas will ever get is through its nomination at BAFTA. Though this isn't a bad thing.

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This is old news, even though it must be noted that the film was recently screened at a prestigious Hollywood theater, rubbing arms with 'Chicago' and 'Gangs of New York'. The US doesn't seem to love it as we'd hoped they would. Considering that the hype surrounding it isn't even half as much as it was for Lagaan, we've already lost.
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This is old news, even though it must be noted that the film was recently screened at a prestigious Hollywood theater, rubbing arms with 'Chicago' and 'Gangs of New York'. The US doesn't seem to love it as we'd hoped they would. Considering that the hype surrounding it isn't even half as much as it was for Lagaan, we've already lost.

I don't think there was much hype about Devdas with foreigners in the US to begin with. Lagaan got a theaterical release in the US mainstream after the Oscars, plus it had alot of European hype backing it up, and at the end, the film didn't go down well either with the mainstream US public. With Devdas, I think it can be blamed on bad promotional tactics. Good job EROS :bash: (dumb ####s)

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I don't think there was much hype about Devdas with foreigners in the US to begin with. Lagaan got a theaterical release in the US mainstream after the Oscars, plus it had alot of European hype backing it up, and at the end, the film didn't go down well either with the mainstream US public. With Devdas, I think it can be blamed on bad promotional tactics. Good job EROS :bash: (dumb ####s)

IMO, Devdas simply isn't as good a film as Lagaan. Not that they're in the same genre, but I think Lagaan is the better film in every aspect.

Columbia didn't run Lagaan in many theaters in the US. It didn't run at any of the three arthouse theaters in my city, and they usually eventually show most arthouse and foreign films running in the US. I doubt if it even grossed $1 million. Lagaan ran at a local university as part of a series of international films they show, but that's not a mainstream release. Devdas also ran at the same university sometime last month.



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I didn't really like neither films, even though Devdas was one of my favourites. Lagaan was a sore disappointment, and it would NEVER win, EVER! Monsoon Wedding would've won for India, I'm certain!
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DragunR2 wrote:
IMO, Devdas simply isn't as good a film as Lagaan. Not that they're in the same genre, but I think Lagaan is the better film in every aspect.

Columbia didn't run Lagaan in many theaters in the US. It didn't run at any of the three arthouse theaters in my city, and they usually eventually show most arthouse and foreign films running in the US. I doubt if it even grossed $1 million. Lagaan ran at a local university as part of a series of international films they show, but that's not a mainstream release. Devdas also ran at the same university sometime last month.

oh! I agree, Devdas isn't as good as Lagaan. But I think interms of cinematography & art direction, Devdas was just a killer. But these ingredients alone wouldn't make me pick Devdas over Lagaan, ofcourse I felt Lagaan had more to offer. As I can remember, Columbia only released Lagaan in major cities in the US (New York, LA) and not a nation wide release. Believe it or not, at my University, the only Bollywood film of the past few years that ran during an international film festival was Dil Chahta Hai.

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I didn't really like neither films, even though Devdas was one of my favourites. Lagaan was a sore disappointment, and it would NEVER win, EVER! Monsoon Wedding would've won for India, I'm certain!

Though I'm sure you and even Sanjay would disagree with me, but I would have liked it more if Lagaan won it for India than Monsoon Wedding. Even more, I think Lagaan was a better film than the latter.

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So what are these "inside" sources? Let's see how accurate you turn about by February 15th (not sure of the exact date).
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So what are these "inside" sources? Let's see how accurate you turn about by February 15th (not sure of the exact date).

Come next tuesday (Feb. 11) You'll find out. And lets just say that I have my jasoos working on this issue around the clock. :devil:

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I will say it over and over again...it should have been Mani Ratnam's Kanathil Muthamittal and not Devdas, as the Mani Ratnam film would have a higher chance of winning and stands on par with other international films like City Of God and Irraversable.
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IMO, Devdas simply isn't as good a film as Lagaan. Not that they're in the same genre, but I think Lagaan is the better film in every aspect.

Columbia didn't run Lagaan in many theaters in the US. It didn't run at any of the three arthouse theaters in my city, and they usually eventually show most arthouse and foreign films running in the US. I doubt if it even grossed $1 million. Lagaan ran at a local university as part of a series of international films they show, but that's not a mainstream release. Devdas also ran at the same university sometime last month.

oh! I agree, Devdas isn't as good as Lagaan. But I think interms of cinematography & art direction, Devdas was just a killer. But these ingredients alone wouldn't make me pick Devdas over Lagaan, ofcourse I felt Lagaan had more to offer. As I can remember, Columbia only released Lagaan in major cities in the US (New York, LA) and not a nation wide release. Believe it or not, at my University, the only Bollywood film of the past few years that ran during an international film festival was Dil Chahta Hai.

You know my opinion on Devdas' cinematography, but I didn't care for the art direction either. Sure the sets were beautiful to look at, but they didn't feel cinematically authentic to me. It just seemed that SLB just spent crores on these opulent sets and costumes just because they were eye candy. Not that the story of Devdas cannot be opulent, I just didn't care for this version. I might have to re-watch the film to watch for the cinematography, but I don't know if I can bring myself to watch it again!

This all reminds me that I need to go see City of God this weekend before they stop showing it!
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DragunR2 wrote:
You know my opinion on Devdas' cinematography, but I didn't care for the art direction either. Sure the sets were beautiful to look at, but they didn't feel cinematically authentic to me. It just seemed that SLB just spent crores on these opulent sets and costumes just because they were eye candy. Not that the story of Devdas cannot be opulent, I just didn't care for this version. I might have to re-watch the film to watch for the cinematography, but I don't know if I can bring myself to watch it again!

This all reminds me that I need to go see City of God this weekend before they stop showing it!

I personally felt Bhansali did set the cinematic tone right for Devdas(atleast in the cinematography & art direction). And much like last year's Hollywood film Road To Perdition; both Devdas & RTP were visually gorgeous films! For perhaps the most breathtakingly painterly work of Conrad Hall's great career and the beauty extracted out in each and every frame in Devdas would be alone worth the price of admission.

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I will say it over and over again...it should have been Mani Ratnam's Kanathil Muthamittal and not Devdas, as the Mani Ratnam film would have a higher chance of winning and stands on par with other international films like City Of God and Irraversable.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that Kanathil Muthamittal would have been a better choice Sunny, but I think Ratnam's films are too much of a dark-horse for the Academy's taste. Infact, I think a few of Ratnam's films from the past were selected by India to the Oscars, but nothing progressed with the Academy.

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By the way. Shahran Sunny Audit & DragunR2; have either of you seen Y Tu Mama Tambien? If you haven't, I recommend it. It's excellent. Let me know how City Of God turns out.

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I've seen Y Tu Mama Tambien and I liked it a lot. One of the lead boys was also in Amores Perros, another brilliant Mexican film.
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DVD Collector wrote:
Kabir wrote:
I think it can be blamed on bad promotional tactics. Good job EROS :bash: (dumb ####s)

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Yes, indeed. What do you think of an Oscar candidate whose
DVD will force you to watch 3 trailers and a rice commercial
when you push the play-film-button? I'm sure the members
of the Academy are thrilled with this experience. Way to go Eros. :bangbang:
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Kabir wrote:
I think it can be blamed on bad promotional tactics. Good job EROS :bash: (dumb ####s)


Yes, indeed. What do you think of an Oscar candidate whose
DVD will force you to watch 3 trailers and a rice commercial
when you push the play-film-button? I'm sure the members
of the Academy are thrilled with this experience. Way to go Eros. :bangbang:

Not to mention a soft, overly dark picture...
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