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DragunR2
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Not to mention all the unnecessary " and ' marks on the DVD subtitles. If the DVD screeners they send are the same DVDs we have, then the Academy is going to laugh in their faces. Were the subtitles on the 35mm prints as bad? These guys are trying to do literal translations of the lyrics, which lead to "Chalak Chalak" type disasters, rather than just trying to approximate the meaning and produce the best English subtitles. No way such an unprofessional presentation will make a positive impact.
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GUys this is a "point"-less discussion. Its a forgone conclusion that this film is not even gonna make the cut, so why bother discussing abt it ?.. Why cant film makers in India think abt alternative non-mainstream films ?... Mr & Mrs Iyer , by Aparna Sen, has won accolades all over the world and this would have a very good contender for the Oscars..but alas... The imbeciles at the IFFI have had their way , once again :(
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I agree, s.k. nath, but who will put up with bhaiyon ka bhaii, bharat bhaii?
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Khiladi wrote:
If devdas could be sent to the oscars then why not Aankhen? after all "Hollywood" thinks the movie is worth to be re made by them. dont you think it would have stood a better chance than devdas?

AANKHEN for the Oscars? Excuse me while I hurl my dinner. Please tell me you're joking. :rolleyes:
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kamran wrote:
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If devdas could be sent to the oscars then why not Aankhen? after all "Hollywood" thinks the movie is worth to be re made by them. dont you think it would have stood a better chance than devdas?

AANKHEN for the Oscars? Excuse me while I hurl my dinner. Please tell me you're joking. :rolleyes:

no i am not kidding, u missed the whole point anyway. If a movie like Devdas can go to the oscars then why not Aankhen? and like i said it seems hollywood finds the movie worth for a remake so it can have a equally good chance like devdas.

besides why just Aankhen? why not Company? the only movie that would have had a good chance was Mani Ratnam film. i'm sure you guys know which one i am talking about. the movie is far more superior than Devdas or any of the other movies released this year.

anyway its pointless even discussing this when we all know devdas does not have a chance.



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sknath
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Khiladi wrote:
anyway its pointless even discussing this when we all know devdas does not have a chance.

Khiladi I think, finally, you have got the Point :D
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It is infact pointless to discuss Devdas at the Oscars. I'll give you two main reason, one: Bharat Shah & Two: Eros Entertainment. Moreso I believe Eros Entertainment. It's quite evident that most(if not, all) Bharat Shah financed or produced films go to Eros Entertainment for overseas distribution, and a conniving company like Eros will do anything to keep Devdas under there arms while promoting this film at the Oscar race. Actually, one of the main reason why Devdas won't get anywhere with the Oscars is most probably due to Eros incompetent promotional techniques. Already a few have elaborated that Eros will use inferior source of prints to show the film to foreign members which will not produce positive outcome. Plus, I bet Eros doesn't even know the do's & don't(s) of the game there playing. If Bharat Shah & Sanjay Leela Bhansali were indeed smart, they would have sold the films rights to Universal studios in America and let them handle Devdas at the Oscars race, than I'm pretty sure this film could have chances while under the hands of those who know what to do. But than again, the likes of Bharat Shah are incomptently stupid and sold it to Eros(dumb f**Ks) Entertainment.

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It is infact pointless to discuss Devdas at the Oscars. I'll give you two main reason, one: Bharat Shah & Two: Eros Entertainment. Moreso I believe Eros Entertainment. It's quite evident that most(if not, all) Bharat Shah financed or produced films go to Eros Entertainment for overseas distribution, and a conniving company like Eros will do anything to keep Devdas under there arms while promoting this film at the Oscar race. Actually, one of the main reason why Devdas won't get anywhere with the Oscars is most probably due to Eros incompetent promotional techniques. Already a few have elaborated that Eros will use inferior source of prints to show the film to foreign members which will not produce positive outcome. Plus, I bet Eros doesn't even know the do's & don't(s) of the game there playing. If Bharat Shah & Sanjay Leela Bhansali were indeed smart, they would have sold the films rights to Universal studios in America and let them handle Devdas at the Oscars race, than I'm pretty sure this film could have chances while under the hands of those who know what to do. But than again, the likes of Bharat Shah are incomptently stupid and sold it to Eros(dumb f**Ks) Entertainment.

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actually that happens becuz eros owns part of b4u - and guess who owns the other part? Bharat Shah.

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however, there have been rumours that Shah might unload his investment in b4u...
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If Aishwarya and SLB are spending their time getting excited about all this nomination news, they have to get their heads examined. Sanjay should go back to kissing Bharat Uncle's feet, and Ash would have better luck offering herself to Salman for further bashing. What idiots we have in Bollywood.

Could not have been said any better.
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I agree with the post that said that either 'Company' or 'Kannathil Mutthamittaal' should have been sent. This is true, but reading reviews by foreign correspondents when Kannathil was screened at the Toronto Film Festival, its apparent that they thought it was somewhat pretentious (which it is, kind of, like most Mani Ratnam 'feel-good' political movies). Most of his movies have an unbelievable ending just to make the viewer feel alright, such as entire city of Bombay holding hands at the end of 'Bombay', and the terrorist with the heart of gold who reunites pati-patni in 'Roja'. These things do not happen in real life. Show these movies to the guys who killed Daniel Pearl. They will laugh.

I also dont know what the problem is with Aishwarya Rai. It seems the more beautiful a woman is, the more idiotic she becomes. Aishwarya is a case in point. I cannot believe she even thought about sending her name in for consideration for 'Spider Woman : The Movie'. Can you imagine her being picked? How on earth is she going to get the role? Watching Aishwarya climbing Manhattan skyscrapers is not something I want to see.

And now her idiot brother Aditya wants to be a hero. I think that entire family needs to wake up and go back to being kisaans. Already her dear mother Vrinda has attempted to be a screenplay writer with 'Dil Ka Rishta', which has been getting cringes and embarrassing reviews from industry insiders. What next? Aishwarya's Dad modelling for ICICI?
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SAANCH KO AANCH NAHIN: :baaa:

Raghuvir Yadav criticizes choice of Devdas for Oscars

FILMFARE.COM[ WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2002 08:25:09 PM ]

While everyone is busy praying that Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Devdas does what Aamir Khan's Lagaan could not do, there seems to be a dissenter in the list.


One of them thinks that Devdas is not the perfect choice. Raghuvir Yadav, who acted in Lagaan thinks Devdas does not reflect Indian culture at all, and that the film has merely been hyped up with a huge budget and expensive sets.


Well, maybe he needs to have a talk with captain Aamir, who is already hoping Devdas does the trick! But be careful Raghuvir, Aamir might just opt for a replacement in his team.
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Arsh bhai, kay bolen. Aaj ke zamaane main log sochte kuch aur, bataate kuch aur. In the sense that there must be many people who disagree with the nomination but they cant say anything because some goondas may be at their door by nightfall. Such is the state of affairs in Bollywood.

By the way, you should read the ridiculous report about Bharat Shah from a while ago. Its really quite sad.

PTI[ SUNDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2002 09:21:56 PM ]

MUMBAI: Bharat Shah, producer of Devdas, which has been selected as country's official entry in the foreign section for the prestigious Oscar award, on Sunday expressed confidence over the film bagging the prestigious award.


"The film has a very good chance of notching up an award since it excels in every section be it photography, performance or even costumes," the incarcerated film producer said.


"The music and the story of the film is of international standard," he said, adding "the film has also received some rave reviews at the Cannes festival, hence I am confident of it bagging an award."


The film, which earned nearly Rs 80 crore after it was released, was expected to make the cash registers ring further after the announcement, he said.


"I think God is being good to me. After all the legal problems, I feel happy days are back again," Shah added.
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DragunR2
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Kabir wrote:
"I think God is being good to me. After all the legal problems, I feel happy days are back again," Shah added.

I didn't know God looked kindly on goondas.
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Khiladi wrote:
no i am not kidding, u missed the whole point anyway. If a movie like Devdas can go to the oscars then why not Aankhen? and like i said it seems hollywood finds the movie worth for a remake so it can have a equally good chance like devdas.

No, I didn't miss the point. Just because AANKHEN has been deemed worthy of Hollywood doesn't suddenly honour it with a great distinction of sorts. Remember, this is the same industry that puts out crap like BATTLEFIELD EARTH and THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH.
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kamran wrote:
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no i am not kidding, u missed the whole point anyway. If a movie like Devdas can go to the oscars then why not Aankhen? and like i said it seems hollywood finds the movie worth for a remake so it can have a equally good chance like devdas.

No, I didn't miss the point. Just because AANKHEN has been deemed worthy of Hollywood doesn't suddenly honour it with a great distinction of sorts. Remember, this is the same industry that puts out crap like BATTLEFIELD EARTH and THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH.

I would disagree. When Hollywood outright buys the rights to a film from another film industry, it's a pretty big thing. Remember the whole thing over Astitva's remake? I feel it's a big deal.
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