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The review is here:
http://us.imdb.com/DVD?0312859
on zulm in some days.
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Review up;

http://www.zulm.net/modules....thold=0

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Adjusted the review of the DVD as a request from MH. The according to him this DVD is progressive – even though you get combing effects on force weave mode in powerDVD;

"Another problem is severe aliasing that makes individual scanlines very visible and adds an ugly pixelised look on many occasions. This is typical of an outdated telecine without proper antialiasing technique."

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ali wrote:
Adjusted the review of the DVD as a request from MH. The according to him this DVD is progressive – even though you get combing effects on force weave mode in powerDVD;

"Another problem is severe aliasing that makes individual scanlines very visible and adds an ugly pixelised look on many occasions. This is typical of an outdated telecine without proper antialiasing technique."

Ali

Ali is the reason you mentioned in italics the casue for combing artifacts when played in a Force weaved mode ?...

Can you or Hafre please explain this to all of us here ..It would really be helpful

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Yeh the words in italics do denote the reason for combing but reason I used the italics was to state what changed in the review! :sus: :keh: :oh:

MH has said he’ll write a report on this issue/explanation when he gets more time.

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Michel Hafner Review from Zulm

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One problem is the lack of image sharpness despite 16:9 enhancement. A modern telecine coupled with a good MPEG encoder produces considerably sharper results than we see here. Not that the image is very soft, but it's not as sharp as it should be. Another problem is severe aliasing that makes individual scanlines very visible and adds an ugly pixelised look on many occasions. This is typical of an outdated telecine without proper antialiasing technique. In addition the grain and noise level is too high for a new transfer. A constant veil is over the pictures that need not be there. Finally there are some noise reduction artifacts visible and some edge enhancement as well.


According to Michel Hafner it is a progressive dvd but because of outdated telecine with out proper antialiasing technique it is showing combing and other defects.
Michel is your dvd player indicates it's a progressive dvd?
I think according to Rana it is psuedo progressive?
Although I have the songs from this movie I have not checked with my dvd player, But most of the Indian dvd's I have checked shows an improvement in PQ (varies from 5 to 30%) with my dvd player vs HTPC (either powedvd or ATI Player). But as I said before in other thread the improvements are only on the static close up image not on the aerial or long shots or when moving .
I think when you use forceBob in PowerDvd it shows some improvement over smartdetect for the this kind of movie dvds, which may be similar to the improvement we see with a good dvd player.

Michel your review of KNPH does not show any rating, how would you rate or compare this dvd with KNPH?




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Sorry I have been identifying DVDs as progressive, pseudo-progressive and interlaced. I/ we are using these I.D.s for convenience only. As Michel corrected me once, the important thing is whether there is info in the DVD to weave the video fields back to get the original film frames.

Rana

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I don't see anything wrong to use these defs, provided we clarify what we mean from these IDs.


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ali wrote:
Adjusted the review of the DVD as a request from MH. The according to him this DVD is progressive – even though you get combing effects on force weave mode in powerDVD;


Ali

The review still says:

Medium and wide shots suffer quite some from video artifacts. A progressive version would look much nicer.

by Michel Hafner,


I wonder if Michel is seeing/ saying this:

Every 5th frame is a repeated frame and has been recorded instead of just a flag instructing player to repeat it.

Each video field will have info from a single film frame and hence this sequence can be detected by pixel to pixel comparison. As each video field is from one individual film frame, I can call it Progressive. But, as Power DVD doesn't do pixel to pixel comparison and depends on flags, every alternate force weaved frame gets info from two different film frames and hence combing.
Therefore I call this Pseudo-Progressive.

Rana




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Rana,
There is nothing wrong when you/we say it is Pseudo-Progressive. In fact I like the way you call as it not a real progressive. I am just pointing the terms we use to identify this.


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rana wrote:
The review still says...

Not anymore :p

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Just bumping this topic to ask if anyone has seen the AP International DVD of this film? If so, is it fully subtitled? (Unlike the Ayngaran disc, which has lots of missing dialogue and, of course, all the songs).

Come to think of it, wasn't there talk of Ayngaran re-releasing this with DTS? After Indian was re-released by them so quietly, who knows - maybe Kannathil Muthamittal was as well.


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Stephen, looking at the AP International DVDs on indiavarta.com, quite a few have DTS tracks that the Ayngaran counterparts don't have. They didn't have KM listed, though.


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KM is out of stock for a while and my distributor says Ayngaran will release "new" DVD. So lets wait (hopefully will come this month!)


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any news on a new DVD release of this movie? I'm looking to get a copy ASAP.

DU ji, do you have the original version in stock? checked the website, and it seems to be in stock?

also, there seems to be an AP International DVD of Sethu!?!? (indiavarta). anyone get a chance to see this DVD? pyramid version sucks

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