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rana
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:42 pm 
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Many of us wonder how much or how little does it cost to start enjoying Progressive Picture from good DVDs.

Category 1
19 inch screen

Assuming you have PC DVD, you already have a progressive set-up. If you don't have DD5.1 audio, it can be added for under $ 150.

If you don't have a PC but just a 19 inch TV, you don't need to switch.

Category 2
32 inch or larger screens

Progressive (HD compatible) TVs start at about $ 2500. Prog DVD player with Home Theatre amplifier-speaker packages start at $ 300.

So, it is possible to upgrade to a large screen progressive system for under $ 3000. If you want a larger screen, HD-ready RPTVs start at about $ 3500 for a 42 inch TV.


In case you are due for a new TV and you were going to buy a large screen TV, you can see that you don't need to spend more than a few hundred dollars extra to enjoy a much better progressive picture.


The question is not how much it costs or how much are you willing to spend on the DVD-TV system, but what fraction of your DVD inventory cost you want to spend on your DVD-TV.

My prefference:
If I have 100 DVDs costing $ 2000, I will gladly spend that extra few hundred dollars to enjoy the DVD capacity picture.

What do you think??

Rana


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Note: My numbers are all in Canadian Dollars.



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asif
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this is all very good for hollywood dvds but for bollywood dvds i think a 14inc tv would be doing it too much justice :p
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Rana,
You may not believe this, but I just spend $600 for my first projector from ebay and $100 for screen, which I have enjoyed for almost a year before I have upgraded to the present setup.

Now a days progressive DVD players are costing around $200 only and with an entry level new LCD projector ($1200) one can get a very good entry level setup and enjoy movies, just like a movie theater with so little money, if you have time and patience.


Note: My numbers are all in US Dollars.



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asif
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i would very much go for a progressive scan dvd player if i knew that every indian dvd was in progressive scan BUT since that is not the case it is still the player to have for all ur hollywood dvds !!
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ali
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rana wrote:
P.S.
Note: My numbers are all in Canadian Dollars.


ganti wrote:
P.S.
Note: My numbers are all in US Dollars.


Notice a pattern here? Progressive scan display and players might be common in Canada/USA but in not necessarily the case else where. Sadly the 'Great Britain’ isn’t that great and lags behind technology wise in terms of 2-3 years compared to USA.

In the UK where DVD retinal sales have exceeded VHS rentals – I think Back Hawk Down became the first DVD to out-rent the VHS counterpart – the most common selling DVD players are ones that do it all sold for little as £69 in supermarkets. No progressive DVD player comes to close to that price range – and there not much choice anyhow here – I’ve only seen a hand full of progressive scan DVD players. And there is also an issue with progressive scan PAL output – none or very few modded DVD players output PAL progressive.

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Ali If I am not mistaked you can play NTSC formatted discs in the UK also. Now suppose one was to buy a progressive dvd player from North America (with all RCE and RC and MV removed) then you can effectively get a Progressive DVD player with both NTSC and PAL capability ? Or Can you ?
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asif
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hey ALI bhai check this out

http://www.homecinemaheaven.com/index.htm

under the dvd players section click on for the Marantz DV4300 - Multiregion DVD Player



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ali
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sknath wrote:
..you can effectively get a Progressive DVD player with both NTSC and PAL capability ? Or Can you ?

Just with NTSC progressive playback I think - or they was a mention of some DVD players being modded to handle PAL playback.

It's not an issue I fully understand but there is something about progressive PAL that has caused delays in progressive PAL playback. Even when one of recent UK discs was ‘hailed’ (more marketing gimmick than anything else) as the first progressively mastered DVD to go on sale (Tartan’s Battle Royale) – it was an NTSC DVD.

Regards Indian DVDs its mostly an irrelevant issue as most are NTSC anyway.

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Most of DVD players, in UK, are multi region, both PAL/NTSC compatable, but onlu NTSC prog! My humble 2 cents!

But, INDIAN DVD break all the rules, so watch them in nTSC prog! dudes!

One more CENT!! All prog scan dvd players, can not make HINDI YUKK!!! Yumm!!
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ali
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asif wrote:
hey ALI bhai check this out

http://www.homecinemaheaven.com/index.htm

under the dvd players section click on for the Marantz DV4300 - Multiregion DVD Player

Yes I know about them - mostly useless for me! Last time I wanted to buy a DVD player they constantly lied to me that they were had stock of the new Pioneers - the same ones they were adverting on thedvdforums.com as in stock – because I live only a few miles away I wanted to go pick them up – soon as you mention that they suddenly have no a stock!

Marantz DV4300 – looks very nice, for a player that is budget progressive scan player – its still £300.

Ali :thumbs:
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dear ALI bhai

i have to admit i've had no problems with them i ordered the pioneer dv350s on a tues and it was here by thurs (i'm in LONDON) that was one of the quickest delivery i've ever had mind u i did order via the phone and not from the web !!!
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rana
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??

I think,
all Film to PAL transfers are basically Progressive programs as there are no half frames thrown in, to confuse the issue, to make up for the 24 vs 60 conversion. Instead of 24 film frames 25 film frames are recorded every sec. s.t. they fit into 50 half frames. If it is pre-known that this is a Film to PAL transfer (4% speed shifted), you will never see combing in a Force Weave for a Film to PAL program that is 4 % speed shifted.

If the above is true, there is no need for PAL Progressive DVD players.

Rana



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rana
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Recent Flyer lists a 30 inch Wide screen HDTV ready (implying at least 1080i res (480P as well) Picture Tube TV for under $ 1500 Cdn. Mind you this is the flyer price. Negotiated price will be lower. After Xmas even cheaper.

Prog scan DVD players start at under $ 180 Cdn.

Don't tell me Prog Scan is not here. It is Right Here, Right Now.

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ali
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rana wrote:
Don't tell me Prog Scan is not here. It is Right Here, Right Now.

For people in Canada/USA :rolleyes:

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I just bought the Panasonic RP82 DVD player for Rs 20,000 which is a little over US $400 here in India. The player has Progressive output and plays NTSC and PAL both. IT also has NTSC playback on PAL. The player is also hacked for multi region. As a bonus the player also is a DVD Audio player and DTS & Dolby Digital decoders built in. The same player in the US is available for $200. By the way this player is very highly recommended by many on a lot of Home Theater related forums. In fact a lot of people compare it quite favorably with players costing 4 times as much.

By the way I was doing some research on progressive Sony televisions available in Asia (just introduced recently) and Europe, for some reason all of them stated that the vertical squeeze (Anmorphic) mode was only applicable for NTSC signals. I wonder why this is.



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