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Vijay Anand (brother of Dev Anand) is an idiot! The guy must be sexually depressed in his personal life to motivate such a plan.

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Even Dev Anand was rumoured to have a few casting couch sessions in the past with his actresses. I always thought they came from a perverted family.

And Mahesh Bhatt lending his suport, of course he'd like more porno's, this guys a sucker for controversy...remember this is the same guy who kissed his daughter (Pooja Bhatt) on the lips for a bollywood Magazine cover back in the days...all in the name of money and attention-seeking. Nothing but a dirty old man is what he is. He seems to think this is a good deed as it will help "streamlining the illegal transactions of pornography"...maybe he should get his own daughter to star in them. This is they type of guy we don't need, that loves making more money no matter who is exploited, no matter who's lives are destroyed. He should be shot!


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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
This is they type of guy we don't need, that loves making more money no matter who is exploited, no matter who's lives are destroyed. He should be shot!

Mr Khiladi & DVD _C now dont tell me that watching a Porno flick is PAAP :D cos I am pretty sure you guys must have (at some point in ur life) seen a PORNO flick (either real or surreal if you know what I mean :D)


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The point is once you start this in bollywood films (which I'm sure is their intention in the end) it's hard to get rid of. Indian films just won't be indian films anymore they won't be given the same amount of respect that they had and are now trying to reclaim (for example with the period epics). I'm sure it's a common male fantasy to see your favourite actresses nude on the big screen 'if only madhuri did a full strip', wow, sonali under the water-fall' etc. But at the same time they just won't be indian films anymore. Indian films leave alot to the imagination, which keeps guys coming back for more. They're titilating as they are, if they went to full pornography, all the males in the audience will either have a heart attack, or explode!

Plus when you have kids they can't grow up watching bollywood films as you did. And the X certification idea is nonsense as we all know it's easy to see any indian film at any age as noboy takes it seriously.

Also the actresses will be thought of as sluts, look at what happened to anu aggarwal...no director wants to touch her with a barge pole. And Simi garewal got dissed hard and never made it big once she did her nude scene in Mera Naam Joker. I think if this happens they'll be too may suicides.

However, I still think Mahesh Bhatt should be shot.


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Mr Khiladi let me tell u something... You should have read the full article... "After the initial curiosity is over it will be back to business" I know that cos when I was in India, i used to frequent da Morning shows, bunking classes and I used to be attracted to those posters... Now I saw the first flick like I was commiting a big crime ( this is say 12 years ago ). But after the first does I realized it was much ado abt nothing. One day I was indeed caught by my parents. But I took it quite calmly. ( & they were not Bollywood flicks anyways).

The discerning parent always has the option of blocking such films away from minors or educating them abt the real issue which they think is a taboo and that is SEX ! I am speculating , maybe this effect can indeed someday bring abt a change in the mentality of folks back home with the advent of proper Sex-Ed in schools... ( the sheer fear of such films may drive parents to better educate their children )


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I read the whole article. But I know that in the end their intention is to get more nudity or introduce porn to bollywood. Once this is introduced it will lead to more. we already know how teenage girls in bombay copy actresses, but imagine what they will copy when films like this are shown. and India already has a problem with high-birthrate. Indeed there was nudity filmed for some bollywood movies but most of the time it was cut by the censor board. I agree that they do need more sex education though, but people in the cities arn't as dumb as they make out.
And I understand that when you got disgusted by 'those films' cos all the female performers were ugly as hell. :D


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No doubt it will be a welcome relief to see some better aesthetic sense in those films. Nudity (IMO) is no big deal provided the scene warrants it. Tell me something if a film on Adam & Eve has to be made what do you do ? You show them in Trendy clothes ?.... I hate those hypocrites when they preach abt Adam & Eve and avoid the subject of Nudity


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I'm sure they'll be countless reasons to allow a nude scene ;)

For example in every raindance, there's no point for the heroinne to keep her wet sari on, else she'll catch a cold. She might as well get it off and be at one with nature. This'll be a sight sure to make the hero weak-in-the knees. Also for madhuri to seduce a criminal in khalnayak she could have gone further than 'cholee ki peeche' and this would have had all the criminals eating out of her hands.

I actually remember seeing a film about adam and eve when I was much younger. For part of the film they had a leaf, but they removed it later on and that's when tempation set in. I remember being quite surprised they showed this in the early evening. but of course they'll never be an indian version
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But the thing is, will theaters actively keep children out of porno films? They don't enforce any rules currently, so why would they all of a sudden do so with X rated films? Perhaps just showing these films after 10pm would be a good plan.


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DragunR2 wrote:
But the thing is, will theaters actively keep children out of porno films? They don't enforce any rules currently, so why would they all of a sudden do so with X rated films? Perhaps just showing these films after 10pm would be a good plan.

You bring up a valid point, and just to add that bringing pornography open legally to the public leads to a bit of more corruption. People of young age will definitely be interested in watching a new source of entertainment even without knowing anything about what there about to walk into. And in such a country, it wouldn't be hard for kids of under age to have access to watching such films in theaters. Its quite obvious that any form of policy or rules won't stand in there way as long as they can bribe there way in.

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DVD_C thats if they dont get proper education abt Human gentilia in their sex-ed classes or even from their parents.
Its better to secure the fundamentals ( knowledge @ home) rather then harp on how to prevent something... You see depravity can creep into the minds of young individuals if they are suddenly exposed to such things ( I am a living example of that...and I have vowed that my next generation will never face such a scenario )... Living in a repressed society has its drawbacks and proper education indeed helps.

Look You forget something :-
Watching a movie in an X-Rated thetare will be deemed as visiting a brothel... (initially of course). However This will also bring in legal forms of adult entertainment ( like magazines, DVDs, Videos) all of which can be regulated. Hell I can get any XXX rated film if I choose to just by contacting a few sources in Bombay or anywhere else. I dont need any laws of regulation...what I need is education abt these facts which I will/may have to face someday in life !


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You also bring up a valid point sknath, i guess this issue could explore a wider critical base.

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For those who live in 'la la land', here is a rude awakener, there is no film X rated or otherwise that is not available to the public in India. The same goes for 'Playboy, Hustler etc. and all other publications of the sort. The only purpose censorship and the ban on pornography has served in India is to move them to the back alleys. Kids are exposed to all this in a far worse manner now than they would be if these things were legal and therefore out in the open, which would atleast allow the authorities to control them, but since it is all illegal and hidden it is not even controlled. A dealer of pornography in todays situation is breeaking the law anyhow so he has no fear or qualms of making it available to a minor. Whereas if his business was legal he might (I said might, but atleast there is a chance) not risk it by selling to minors.
Also to those who think the young girls of India are all sati savitri's now and X rated movies will suddenly change that, you have got to be kidding. There is nothing these girls are not already exposed to or are not involved in already, infact due to the illegality of it the curiosity and attraction is even higher than it would be if it was not such a taboo issue.


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Folks what better person to back up what I stated than Mr Sanjay as he is a part and parcel of the rich and famous in New Delhi with all the cute (yet bitchy) sindhi gals :D So Sanjay that means we are gonna see more X & XX & XXX videos at rental stores if this law is passed ?


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