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do you think this is a justified sentence?
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he deserve the one year sentence in jail 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
time in jail should be less then a year 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
sentence should be more then a year in jail 50%  50%  [ 3 ]
he should not be sentence to jail at all 50%  50%  [ 3 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:22 pm 
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Bollywood star Salman Khan was sentenced to one year in prison and fined Rs 5,000 by a court in Jodhpur on Friday.

The court found Salman guilty of killing two chinkaras or black bucks, a deer species, at Bhavad village in Rajasthan in 1998.

Seven other accused in the case, including comedian Satish Shah, were acquitted in the case by Chief Judicial Magistrate B K Jain.

Salman, 40, was present when the judgment was pronounced in the packed courtroom.

He was convicted under the Wildlife Protection Act. The sentence will come into effect after one month.

It was one of four cases filed against the actor for poaching endangered animals.


Salman was charged with hunting chinkaras during the night of September 26-27, 1998 when he was in Jodhpur for the shooting of Sooraj Barjatya's Hum Saath Saath Hain.

Salman and other actors starring in the film were booked by the Rajasthan forest department on charges of poaching endangered animals.

source: http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/17salman.htm

i find this totally stupid, its not like he was hunting a person, instead they rather just make him pay like a corore or something, looks like he wont come for the oversease tour now in april, they should at least let him finish off his movies already in production, india is messed, i bet if it happend to abhishek they wouldnt dare keep him in prison since his dad is amhitab bachan


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Salman gets 5 yrs RI, sent to jail

Press Trust of India
Posted online: Monday, April 10, 2006 at 1114 hours IST
Updated: Monday, April 10, 2006 at 1454 hours IST



Jodhpur, April 10: Bollywood actor Salman Khan was today sentenced to five years rigorous imprisonment and sent to central jail here by a local court in connection with the black buck poaching case.


Chief Judicial Magistrate Brijendra Kumar Jain also imposed Rs. 25,000 fine on Salman, who was taken into custody and sent to the jail. The court ordered one year rigorous imprisonment for co-accused Govardhan Singh and imposed Rs. 5000 fine. Four other persons were acquitted in the 1998 case when a chinkara was killed by Salman at Ghora farmhouse here.

Salman, facing four poaching cases, was earlier sentenced to one year imprisonment by the same court on February 17 for killing the endangered animal but the sentence was suspended for a month to enable him to appeal. Seven other accused, including comedian Satish Shah, were acquitted in this case.

In other cases, actors Saif Ali Khan, Neelam, Tabu and Sonali Bendre are co-accused.


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this is so stupid 5yrs for killing animals like wtf
i wounder if he will be coming to the rockstars concert, at least they should let him finish all his pending work that he signed before going to jail


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izzy wrote:
this is so stupid 5yrs for killing animals like wtf


it is too much, and that accident case where one person was killed still pending..


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I think you guys are missing the whole point of having laws. This issue is not whether he killed an animal or a human being, which too he has done by the way, but rather the issue is that of breaking the law. Also it was not just 'a' animal but rather a 'protected' animal that Salman killed. Would you guys be okay with those that are killing of the lions and tigers from India? I think the judgement is a great one, it sends a message to those who think they are above the law, people like Salman, Sunjay Dutt etc. that they can no longer get away due to their money and other influence. The fact is that most people with money, stars and politicians in India literally have started behaving as if the laws do not apply to them. The Jessica Laal case is another example of this and as far as Salman is concerned this is the third case he is involved in, don't tell me that is a coincidence. Finally there is some hope hope, now that the courts are realizing that this problem needs to be addressed, otherwise even the common man will no longer have any respect for the law. By the way the five year sentence out of a maximum of six years provided under the law was because it was Salman's second offence, making him a habitual offender. Salman was by the way sentenced to a one year jail term in another similar case in February, he has appealed that case just as he will appeal this one too and use his money to drag the cases out and hope to buy out the witnesses or threaten them to turn hostile. Actually Salman already did that in this case, he has made his driver, the key prosecution witness in this case, dissapear, but only after making a statement that he was pressurised to make a false statement to the police. Fortunately though for the prosecution, for once they had video taped the driver's statement made in front of a magistrate and thus the judge rejected the drivers change in statement and has in fact issued warrants for the driver to appear and explain why he changed his statement. One of the main reasons why most rich and powerful, i.e. stars, politicians etc. are able to get away with their crimes is because they are able to either buy out the key witnesses or threaten them into turning hostile. Witnesses turning hostile is common in all the big cases over the last few years including the Jessica Lal case, Nanda case & Best Bakery case, this has actually been the biggest problem in prosecuting in India for a long time now. But finally things are looking up, the courts have finally realized this has to stop and Zaheeda in the Best Bakery case has been sentenced to a one year jail term for contempt of court for changing her statemnts numerous times, she has also been charged with perjury. Bottom line is, Salman is not innocent, he is for once gettin what he deserves but even that he will probably squirm out of in the long run, what with all the appeals etc. but atleast due to the holiday tommorow he will have to spend two nights in the Jodhpur jail before he can get bail.

PS: Regarding the statement that he ought to be allowed to finish his work in films already started or to attend some 'rock' shows, you must be kidding, right? Well atleast I hope you are, because if not, I would lose all faith in Zulmis. Does anyone in any other profession get this privlege if convicted of serious crimes. Also it's not like his work is of any great importance to the country or to manking in general. It's not like he's working on some cure for AIDS or something. As for his producers, they knew well in advance that Salman was being tried for this crime amongst others, thus they took the risk, just like Sunjay Dutt's is still being signed for new films by producers even after Abu Salem has given rather incriminating statemnts about Sunjay Dutt in TADA court. Although Sunjay Dutt might still beat the rap due to his money and contacts and his father's goodwill, if he does go to jail then his producers ought to get no sympathy for any loisses they suffer.


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the law at least in canada is to protect people from suffering, harm, etc...
and he should be able to finish his work since over a 100ceror are at stake ( saw it on aaj tak) and for his world tour rockstars if he does not come a lot of people would most likely return the tickets since he is the main attraction causing more loss in money, and at the end its actully hurting the people who invested in him for their own bread and butter, and why not take a risk in since india (no offence) is so corrupted anyway they just found a popular star to accuse so they can show that the indian legal system is not corrupt. It really doesnt matter to me if people hunt animals, even protected, but if you kill a protected animal then at least give a fine of 4-5ceror, it just does not make sense that you give a person 5yrs inprisionment and a max upto 7yrs, i think people are more important then animals, and when he killed that person he was runk and did not know what he was doing, and for your info sanjay i am not a total salman fan, i am a srk fan. so i am not being biased here its just my point of view


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izzy wrote:
a lot of people would most likely return the tickets since he is the main attraction


Is there a return policy for the tickets of Indian Concerts in Canada and that too because of one actor?

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but if you kill a protected animal then at least give a fine of 4-5ceror, it just does not make sense that you give a person 5yrs inprisionment and a max upto 7yrs, i think people are more important then animals


It's a law in India.


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when he killed that person he was runk and did not know what he was doing


Kiddish statement.

In US/Canada, if you have a driving license and eligible for alocoholic drink, try yourself "Drunk & Drive" and get involved into Fatal accident and you will know the outcome.


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since i am taking a lw class in highschool, if you were drunk and driving i think they take your lisence away, and give yuou a lesser sentence since you didnt have the right state of mind to make a reasnable judgment, also there isnt a return policy in canada for tickets but i know a lot of salman fans would start fighting with the promotor for their money back


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izzy wrote:
since i am taking a lw class in highschool, if you were drunk and driving i think they take your lisence away, and give yuou a lesser sentence since you didnt have the right state of mind to make a reasnable judgment, also there isnt a return policy in canada for tickets but i know a lot of salman fans would start fighting with the promotor for their money back


Izzy, here abouts they not only revoke your driving privilege, levy a heavy fine and force you to join AA, but they seize your car and jail you to boot, at least over night until you regain " the right state of mind " ! Killing an endangered species net you a stiffer penalty! :lol:


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izzy wrote:
and when he killed that person he was runk and did not know what he was doing
How old are you, if you don't mind my asking? Drinking or being drunk is neither an excuse or defense for your actions, well atleast not in the eyes oif the law. In fact if you are drunk while driving, that in itself is a ciminal offense and then on top of that you add killing someone while driving drunk, that's called man slaughter and is only a couple of steps away from murder. In the US infact the law now looks upon your vehicle as a weapon if you drunk while driving. Considering that the laws in Canada, USA and India are based on the COmmon Laws of UK, I'd safely bet that the law on this is pretty much the same in all three countries and if anything it is probably the most lenient in India. If you kill someone in an accident, it is an accident, but if you kill someone while driving drunk, that in my book is no accident.

PS: Based on your argument I ought to be able to go rob a bank, kill someone or rape someone and all I have to do to make sure I am not held responsible is to be drunk while commiting these acts.


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izzy wrote:
since i am taking a lw class in highschool, if you were drunk and driving i think they take your lisence away, and give yuou a lesser sentence since you didnt have the right state of mind to make a reasnable judgment, also there isnt a return policy in canada for tickets but i know a lot of salman fans would start fighting with the promotor for their money back
I think you've got it all wrong. Your teachers sure aren't doing a very good job of teaching are they, or have you been missing out on school too much? What you are referring to is an insanity plea. Being drunk is not the same as being insane or mentaly instable. Being drunk while driving is a criminal offense and therefore if anything your sentence would be higher and not lower.


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As far as Salman is concerned he is not only a spoilt brat, but he is a habitual law breaker. The guy is a woman beater and Aishwarya was or is not the first woman he has beaten, has been involved in numerous drunken brawls, has been reported to the police for threatning and stalking women has killed people while driving drunk and he has gotten away with all this simple because he is a star and has money. You guys talk as if he is the victim here, where as the truth is that he is and has always been the victimizer.

As for the killing of 'protected species', it is 'AGAINST THE LAW', meaning whether you agree with it or not a s a law abiding citizen you are not supposed to do it. In Salman's case he was charged of a similar crime eight yrs back while shooting for Hum Saath Saath Hain but got away since the prosecution was not able to provide enough evidence. Then again he was charged and this time convicted for a similar crime and was given a one yr sentence in February of this yr. This particular case is the third case against Salman for killing an endangered species or more importantly the third criminal offense and his second conviction, that is why the judge gave him a five year sentence. Do keep in mind that there are a couple of more similar cases that are still pending in court against Salman. If it were not for a fact that he is a star, no one would have had any sympathy for such a guy. He is not being charged or victimized becase he is a star but rather he is being justly punished inspite of being a star.

I guess some of you are of the opionion that if a lot of money would be lost if you convict some rapist or murderer or cocaine dealer all criminals, then you must not sentence him but rather let him go on with his work. These producers and show organizers knew all along that Salman was being prosecuted for these cases, it is just that they like Salman thought that he would once again be able to get away with it. These people do not deserve any sympathy, just like anyone who continues to do business with Sunjay Dutt. If they stand lose money now, well that is the risk of doing business with risky people.

Definitions to help you understand all this:
Criminal: One who is guilty of a crime.
Crime: An act that violates the law of a state, nation or other entity.


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I wonder if jail term for the rich and famous in India is the same like in US-if so then Salmon won’t be sweating in the slammer twiddling his thumbs but he will enjoy a comfortable vacation in a plush deluxe hotel with swimming pool, munching hor’ deuves and cocktails in grand bigwig high style. :lol: Justice is served! :roll:


http://bollywood.apunkachoice.com/scoop ... 411-4.html

No special privileges are said to be extended to Bollywood star Salman Khan , who is presently behind bars at Jodhpur Central prison.

Salman was put under judicial custody on Monday after a Jodhpur court sentenced the actor to five years of rigorous imprisonment in the poaching case for the hunting of the endangered chinkaras. Salman could not get a bail on Tuesday because the courts were closed due to Mahavir Jayanti. Salman's lawyers will file for his bail in the district and sessions court on Wednesday.

But before he is bailed out, Salman would have spent two nights in his 10-by-10 ft prison cell guarded by two sentries in barrack no. 1 of Jodhpur Central prison.

The Jail Superintendent, Mithulal Chauhan, has unequivocally stated that "no special privileges" are being given to the actor during his two nights stay behind bars.

Chauhan told reporters outside the jail that Salman is being served normal jail food that the other convicts eat. Khan was fed plain flat bread, vegetable curry and given an earthenware jar of water.

The actor has not been given any television set to while away his time. However, he does get a newspaper.

Salman was also not allowed to phone his mother Salma, who collapsed and was hospitalized after the verdict.

At night, Salman will sleep without a pillow on the floor of his cell. A bedsheet and a blanket would be provided to him at night.

Just next to Salman's cell is the cell of murder convicts.

The Jail Superintendent is quoted as saying that he personally likes Salman's performances on the big screen. But in jail, Chauhan made it clear, Salman will be treated like any other convict.

Meanwhile, Salman's lawyers have said they would appeal against the verdict to the higher courts.


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well i am 17, and i dont skipp class or drink/smoke anything like that, just to give you an example there was a case where this guy was drunk and ran over this lady and she died, he just got fined some money and 1yr house arrest, and in another case a guy was speed racing ( he was not drunk) and ran over and killed someone and he got 2yrs in jail and 1yr house aresst, and technacly the can ask for parole or w/e its called for got the name, after serving a third of their sentence, and for some odd reasons you dont have to be a star here to live nicely in prison, you have your own computer with internet, tv with satilite cable, dvd player, cd player washroom ( in some places), a good size bed and food with an apetizer, meal, dessert, and like how sanjay dutt was able to finish shooting for khalnayak salman should be able to at least finish his movies that are on their way to completion, and for some reason i just think india is doing this as a publicity stunt to show that they are not corrupt, because so far i have aaj tak, t, sahara samay for over 6months and did not see a poucher being prosecuted yet, by the way i have a question i am not trying to diss anyones religion or anything i just have a question on my mind, when i was watching aaj tak it said the village that salman killed the buck in is a part of a religion that thinks that anything with a life form should not die including trees and plants, but then my question is what do they eat since fruits and vegies are also considered to be a life form, since they grow and have living cells inside them, or is vegies excluded from the plants


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izzy wrote:
i just have a question on my mind, when i was watching aaj tak it said the village that salman killed the buck in is a part of a religion that thinks that anything with a life form should not die including trees and plants, but then my question is what do they eat since fruits and vegies are also considered to be a life form, since they grow and have living cells inside them, or is vegies excluded from the plants


29 Rules or Commandments of Bishnoi Community

Says nothing about not eating vegetables, only that they can't fell green trees or eat non-veg. Any group that bans vegetables would die out!


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