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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:33 pm 
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http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/06082005-1.shtml

Its too late, but nevertheless a good verdict. I dont know

1. How Simran agreed to act in this movie!
2. How AR Rahman agreed to score music!
3. How producer see this movie as a commertial venture.!
4. How censor board agreed to pass this movie, specially after "Boys" incident!!!

Now that the verdict was out, just when Anbe Aaruyire is gonna be released, it will impact the business of A Aa, but after looking at the trailer and promo, this also falls under the same category.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:21 am 
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Most of the recent tamil songs have double triple meaning dialogues , Thats what the front benchers want. Out of 100's of movies released every month only 1 or 2 are even worth writing or talking about.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:31 am 
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whats the point of banning it now?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:46 am 
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kchan wrote:
whats the point of banning it now?

Commercially for New it means

- no more showing of new in theatres, there are lot of villiage theatres where it isnt screened yet
- suntv rights to show news is at risk, which means the producer has to return the money back
- Most importantly it will damage the business for Aa Aah

Apart fro this, its a (late) victory for the people who were fighting for this ban for a while, specially for mrs vaanathi, who was threatened and oftened by SJS


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Aaah Aaah looks just like New. I'm thinking why Rahman is agreeing to do music for these movie...while Harris is getting all the great projects like Anniyan, Gajini etc... :( :shock:


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I see ARRs exit already. Some ARR fans might get upset/anger, but that is the truth. The cost of tamil movies are already sky rocketing and paying 1 Cr for music isnt worth. If HJ can do the same for 50 lakhs, why choose ARR and get the project delayed? If YSR can do the same for 25 lakhs and in no time why wast extra 75 lakhs. When ARR came to TFM he was unique, but now every one knows how ARR plays, so itsnt a difficult job anymore!

If Shankar decide to do his next movie with anyone other than ARR, then it definitely is an exit for ARR, since he will be left only with SJS and MR and all other directors have settled down, with IR, YSR, Bharadwaj & HJ.


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Well, seems like it is DD way south!! All Luchar/Vulgar Zoo Maeneh! Sarkaii Khatiya!! :(


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dvdunlimited wrote:
I see ARRs exit already. Some ARR fans might get upset/anger, but that is the truth. The cost of tamil movies are already sky rocketing and paying 1 Cr for music isnt worth. If HJ can do the same for 50 lakhs, why choose ARR and get the project delayed? If YSR can do the same for 25 lakhs and in no time why wast extra 75 lakhs. When ARR came to TFM he was unique, but now every one knows how ARR plays, so itsnt a difficult job anymore!

If Shankar decide to do his next movie with anyone other than ARR, then it definitely is an exit for ARR, since he will be left only with SJS and MR and all other directors have settled down, with IR, YSR, Bharadwaj & HJ.


YSR is the best of the current MDs after ARR, then Vidyasagar, maybe HJ.

Some directors and MD combos:

Selvaraghavan-YSR
Dharani-Vidyasagar
Gautam Menon-HJ
Fazil-IR
Bala-IR
Mani Ratnam-ARR
Cheran-Bharadwaj
Saran-Bharadwaj

Vidyasagar is number one for massy stuff like Vijay's films.

Possibly K. Balachandar-Vidyasgar combo, starting with Poi. KB frequently switches MDs, and who knows if he will direct more films after this.

ARR could concentrate on Tamil if he doesn't take a lot of Hindi or international projects. I like his Tamil projects better than his Hindi ones since in Hindi he mostly gets epics and period pieces, which are limited in scope.

ARR is not king of Tamil cinema anymore, though quality-wise he is the best IMO. I would rather listen to KKS again than most recent releases.

I really wish he took Anniyan instead of HJ. I can still listen to the Shankar-ARR combo songs years later since they made a great team, but I grew tired of the Anniyan songs long ago. Shankar's picking HJ was hopefully a one-time thing. But ARR does not have a Kunjumon to always hire him in TFM anymore.

Why he took New and Aa Aah, I have no idea :roll:


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dvdunlimited wrote:
I see ARRs exit already. Some ARR fans might get upset/anger, but that is the truth. The cost of tamil movies are already sky rocketing and paying 1 Cr for music isnt worth. If HJ can do the same for 50 lakhs, why choose ARR and get the project delayed? If YSR can do the same for 25 lakhs and in no time why wast extra 75 lakhs. When ARR came to TFM he was unique, but now every one knows how ARR plays, so itsnt a difficult job anymore!

If Shankar decide to do his next movie with anyone other than ARR, then it definitely is an exit for ARR, since he will be left only with SJS and MR and all other directors have settled down, with IR, YSR, Bharadwaj & HJ.


Well so ARRs exit is due to him being expensive not because his quality is gone down.

I like many of the other tamil MDs a lot. But none of them gives me the same feeling as listening to an ARR songs. So I don't agree that everyone else can play as ARR plays.

And ARR is just not about the instruments. His melodies are much superior to others' works too. It just takes time to understand the melodies of his songs though.

Other than ARR, I like YSR (altho his music is highly predictable), HJ (he's underrated...i'm listening to Chellame album now), Vidyasagar (he can make good melodies...listen to Vennila Sirakadikka from Ponniyin Selvan), ... and some others at times.


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YSR and HJ both have a big ARR hangover IMO. I have liked a few HJ albums, but his stuff is mostly forgettable. Chellame was pretty good. YSR is better (I liked 7GRC a lot).

I totally agree about ARR's melodies being better than others.


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DragunR2 wrote:
I totally agree about ARR's melodies being better than others.

Its just my opinion, ARR melodies lack freshness and also orchestrization. melody to ARR means less instruments to no instruments and Unnikrishnan/Hariharan voice. The best melody of ARR is from Kannathil Muthamittal (Oru Theivam Thantha Poove). Rest of them are okay only.

The best melody of recent years are from YSR only. 7G, Manmadhan (kadhal valarthaen), Kadhal Kondaen etc.

Vidyasagar - Hmm.. I too thought that he did well in Chandramukhi, but coule of songs are absolute lift, one blamming rajni cuz he insisted the same song and the other ... god only knows, but neverthless he was huge success in 2003 and 2004 (Run, Parthiban Kanavu etc)


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Its just my opinion, ARR melodies lack freshness and also orchestrization.


Sorry, I don't see how that is true. :)
You're saying ARRs melodies from Kangalal Kaidhu Sei for example lacked freshness and orchestration???...Ok i'll agree that Azhagiya Cindrella meets ur description, but the rest of the songs are pure magic.


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kchan wrote:
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Its just my opinion, ARR melodies lack freshness and also orchestrization.


Sorry, I don't see how that is true. :)


Sorry DU - as much as I like IR I also love ARR, I think his melodies are great. So what if it "lacks" orchestration (I actually think that is his strength , there is no doubt in my mind that ARR's melodies will/can stand the test of time. I "think" ARR is much bigger than he is given credit for and it is sad to see his collaborations with SJ Surya .

BTW - I have always maintained the SJ Suray's "NEW” is a fine example of anti-cinema and though the court order is late, its nevertheless welcomed!


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dvdisoil wrote:
there is no doubt in my mind that ARR's melodies will/can stand the test of time

Yes, only time will tell.


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Well time has already told...

People still remember Roja, People still remember Dil se, people still remember Kaathalan, People still remember Alaipayuthe and Kandukondein,....Roja was selected by Time as one of top ten albums. Chaiyya Chaiyya was selected as one of the top ten songs by BBC last year or something.....I mean what more do you need proof?

IR for all his greatness never got the same recognition as ARR.

One more thing IRs melodies are very predictable in how they're gonna progress... Like there is a certain chord variation you can almost always expect from IR. Same with his son Yuvan...you can expect what you're gonna hear pretty much...not that they are not enjoyable. But if you want variety and freshness....ARR is the man. For example, Aaah Aah album has the type of music that I never heard before. The tunes in Kangalal Kaidhu Sei...totally new, totally fresh, no one other than ARR can make them.


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