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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:54 am 
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E-mailed to me ... not sure what the source is ... I wonder if there will be a DVD release?

Even though I'm not a fan of colourising classic movies ... if this is the only way we can get to see a restored version then I will support it.

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Deepesh Saalagiya has informed that plans are afloat for a
grand release of colour version of Mughal-e-Azam and Music
Director Naushad is going to re-record all its songs in
their original form.

Keeping the original versions of the singers, instrument
players shall re-record the original notations because the
film now has Dolby-digital sound effects. Entire background
music of the film shall also be re-recorded like above.

One book shall also be released at the time of the premier
of the film. Naushad is not using computer-generated sounds.
Help of dedicated players of classical instruments has been
called for.

The success of the effort might lead to other classics like
Awara, Madhumati, Pyasa, Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai,
Bandini and Sahib Bibi Ghulam. It will expose the movie
viewers of the new generation to the golden era of indian
cinema and he will be able to compare such "saarthak" cinema
with today's superficial cinema.

It shall be relevant to know that efforts had been made in
America to add colour and voice to Charlie Chaplin's films.
But court had stopped that saying that original creations of
any artist should not be tempered with. At least such issue
will not come in picture in the case of Mughal-e-Azam
because entire thing is being done by Shaapuurji Paalonji,
the original producer of the film.

It is a matter of a deep debate whether a black and white
film looses its depth if converted to colour.

Deepesh Saalagiya also informed that night shots in the film
have become much more effective in colour.

Though, the song "pyaar kiya to darna kya" was in colour in
the original film itself, it has become necessary to
reprocess that also, to maintain consistency of the colours.
When it was found impossible to shoot the said song in
sheesh mahal due to reflections, the cameraman of the film,
R D Mathur had somehow done it. He had got settled in Delhi
after retirement. It is not known whether he is alive.

The colour version is likely to get released on Aug 5, the
date on which the original was released. Its first print was
carried on an elephant from the lab to Maratha Mandir ( a
cinema hall in bombay).


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Interesting, I've still got not round to watching the movie on the Shemaroo DVD yet!

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I hope the dvd of the restored Mughal-e-Azam will not be released by EROS or any other craps.


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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:02 am 
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Muz wrote:
Even though I'm not a fan of colourising classic movies ... if this is the only way we can get to see a restored version then I will support it.


One of the advantages of Ted Turner colorizing black and white films was that they had to be restored before colorizing could be done. Colorizing has indirectly been a boon to these old films. I hope a restored b/w version of MEA is made available.


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Colorizing has indirectly been a boon to these old films


I don't readily agree with that! :lol: Sometime in the 1980's when Ted Turner tried to colorize Citizen Kane Orson Welles kicked up a fuss and said something to the effect " Keep Ted Turner and his god damned crayolas away from my movies" I'm of the same opinion too and would never consider it a boon! :lol: :P


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Whatever, they do, DONT DARE TOUCH MY MADHUMATI! :evil:


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JB, I would never watch a colorized film, but the reason many films were restored in the 80s was to be colorized afterwards. Fortunately the colorization fad has died out for American films and such releases are rare. I hope it doesn't catch on with Indian films, but Naya Daur has been colorized, and now MEA :x


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DragunR2 wrote:
JB, I would never watch a colorized film, but the reason many films were restored in the 80s was to be colorized afterwards. Fortunately the colorization fad has died out for American films and such releases are rare. I hope it doesn't catch on with Indian films, but Naya Daur has been colorized, and now MEA :x


??? Where did u watch NAYA DAUR in COLOR DTAGUN?? in R2? LOL :lol: :wink:


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arsh wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
JB, I would never watch a colorized film, but the reason many films were restored in the 80s was to be colorized afterwards. Fortunately the colorization fad has died out for American films and such releases are rare. I hope it doesn't catch on with Indian films, but Naya Daur has been colorized, and now MEA :x


??? Where did u watch NAYA DAUR in COLOR DTAGUN?? in R2? LOL :lol: :wink:


Yeah! I'm curious too! and if you say the big screen I'll conk you on the head! :lol: :P


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The following article is worth a reading! :lol:

COLORIZATION

Colorization is a computerized process that adds color to a black?and?white movie or TV program. The process was invented by Wilson Markle and was first used in 1970 to add color to monochrome footage of the moon from the Apollo mission. In 1983, Markle founded Colorization, Inc. The word "colorization" soon became a generic name for the adding of color to black?and?white footage.

The process of colorizing a movie begins with a monochrome film print, preferably a new print struck from the original negative. From the film print, a high?quality videotape copy is made. Technicians, aided by a computer, determine the gray level of every object in every shot and note any movement of objects within shots. A computer adds color to each object, while keeping gray levels the same as in the monochrome original. Which color to use for which object is determined through common sense (green for grass, blue for the ocean) or by investigation. For example, movie studio photographs or costume vaults may provide guidance as to what color a hat should be. In cases where no such guidance is available, colorists pick their own colors, presumably with some aesthetic sensibility.

Colorization is an expensive and time?consuming process. Popular Mechanics reported in 1987 that it cost more than $3,000 per minute of running time to colorize a movie. The economic justification for such an expenditure lay in audience demand. Variety estimated in 1988 that while it cost $300,000 to colorize an old movie, the revenue generated by the release of the colorized version was $500,000. This revenue came mostly from television syndication, although videocassette release was also important in some cases. Another important consideration was the opportunity to claim new copyrights on old films, thus extending the film's potential life as a profit center for the owner.

Colorization became extremely controversial in the late 1980s, especially with regard to "classic" monochrome films such as Citizen Kane (which ultimately was not colorized), Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, and It's a Wonderful Life. With some exceptions, the dispute pitted film directors and critics (who opposed colorization) against copyright owners (who favored it). Among its opponents, TV critic Eric Mink viewed colorization as a "bastardization" of film. The Writers Guild of America West called it "cultural vandalism."

The case against colorization is most often couched in moral terms. According to this reasoning, colorization violates the moral right of the film director to create a work of art that has a final, permanent form and that will not be subject to alteration years later by unauthorized parties. Moral rights of artists, recognized in other countries, have no standing in United States law, which gives preference to the property rights of copyright holders. In film and television, the copyright holder is almost always a large film studio or production company, which employs the director as an author?for?hire, so to speak. To an extent, the battle over colorization was an attempt by directors and other creative artists to prevent further erosion of their power to control their own work.

This position was often framed, somewhat spuriously, in more high?minded terms. For example, it was argued that colorization is an affront to film history. According to this line of thinking, the color version of a film drives the original monochrome version out of circulation, with the result that some viewers may not understand that Casablanca was shot in black and white. Similarly, as Stuart Klawans notes, the viewer might erroneously conclude that a color film such as Gone with the Wind was originally shot in monochrome and later colorized. If colorization can deceive to this extent, it must have a fairly convincing appearance, and, indeed, image quality and craftsmanship were probably the least?often-heard objections to colorizing.

As more movie "classics" became involved, the reaction against colorization took on the flavor of a moral panic. With colorization frequently the object of ridicule, the case in favor of the process became largely a defensive one: colorization does not harm the black?and?white original, and in fact encourages restoration of the original film and the striking of new prints; colorization is no more meddlesome than other, generally accepted practices in the televising of movies, such as interruption for commercials, editing for TV, cropping, time compression, and panning and scanning (not to mention the reduction in image size and the possibility of watching a color movie on a monochrome TV set); finally, any viewer who is offended by the color image can turn off the chroma on the T V set and watch in black and white.
It is worth emphasizing that the product of colorization is a videotape, not a film print. When a movie is colorized, nothing bad happens to the original film print, and the colorized version can only be watched on TV. Ultimately, the greatest impact of colorization may be upon old, monochrome TV series, if and when colorization loses its stigma. Indeed, one of the original ideas behind colorization was the creation of quasi?new TV series. As Earl Glick put it in 1984, "You couldn't make Wyatt Earp today for $1 million an episode. But for $50,000 a segment, you can turn it into color and have a brand new series??with no residuals to pay." As logical as this may sound, only McHale's Navy and a few other series have been colorized.

As of 1995, colorization is no longer a hot issue. Demand for colorized movies has shrunk drastically. Ted Turner, owner of hundreds of MGM, Warner Bros., and RKO titles and colorization's most outspoken advocate, has quietly stopped releasing colorized movies. The main legacy of colorization is the National Film Registry, established by Congress in 1988 in response to the colorization controversy. The Registry is a list of films, selected by experts and expanded annually, that, if colorized, will have to be labeled with a disclaimer. As Klawans points out, the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on compiling the registry would be much better spent on actual film (not to mention television) preservation.





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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 3:09 pm 
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Monizam, Answer to your quesation is in the first post:

Muz wrote:

Though, the song "pyaar kiya to darna kya" was in colour in
the original film itself, it has become necessary to
reprocess that also, to maintain consistency of the colours.

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Muz wrote:


Its first print was
carried on an elephant from the lab to Maratha Mandir ( a
cinema hall in bombay).


Can't do that anymore for the fear of Pirates already capturing and running the market dry in the time that an elephant will take to travel 10 miles.
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I'm very skeptical of the results. They could not do justice, in putting just the finishing touches to his ambitious LOVE AND GOD after K.Asif's death. You need K. Asif or a genius like him, to do justice to the film.

Rana


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Here is my amateurish attempt to copy and paste the essence of what was discussed in a duplicate thread that's locked now:

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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Grand revival of Mughal-E-Azam (REFURBISHED)

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Grand revival of Mughal-E-Azam

By IndiaFM News Bureau, June 09th, 2004 - 1430 hrs IST


K.Asif's Mughal-e-Azam - one of Bollywood's biggest blockbusters of all times, is all set to strike the silver screen once again. The epic love story starring the legendary Prithiviraj Kapoor, thespian Dilip Kumar and the gorgeous Madhubala will soon be re-released in new format.

The new format will be re-recorded in Dolby Digital sound, which will enhance the cinematic experience. Music maestro Naushad who composed the music of the original film is reworking on his original compositions, recording it in the present generation sound technology though retaining the voices of the singers. Music director Uttam Singh is helping Naushad in this unique experiment along with two-dozen musicians brought down from Chennai.

And that's not all! While the original black-and-white film only had one song “Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya” in color, the refurbished version will be in color print throughout. The four-decade-old black-and-white negatives are being converted into color prints through specially designed software.

The outcome of this new version Mughal-E-Azam if positive will be a trendsetter in reviving many more golden classics.




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:58 pm 
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Resurrecting Mughal-E-Azam
By Sam ©2004 Bollyvista.com

K. Asif's classic 'Mughal-E-Azam' after 44 years is being readied for re-release and this time the audience will see the film in colour with Dolby Digital Sound. Right now Naushad Saab is re-recording the original notes in current popular sound format retaining the original voices of the singers and music director Uttam Singh (Dil To Pagal Hai) is assisting him.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:12 pm 
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arsh wrote:
Resurrecting Mughal-E-Azam
By Sam ©2004 Bollyvista.com

K. Asif's classic 'Mughal-E-Azam' after 44 years is being readied for re-release and this time the audience will see the film in colour with Dolby Digital Sound. Right now Naushad Saab is re-recording the original notes in current popular sound format retaining the original voices of the singers and music director Uttam Singh (Dil To Pagal Hai) is assisting him.


I'm very optimistic about new MEA audio. I'm sure the new audio will be better because of new technology and will do full justice to the Music Director's intentions as the same Music Director NAUSHAD is at the helms in this Project.

I'm equally sure that despite all the technological advances, adding color to the film will ruin it. Specially, when it's master director is no more.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:24 pm 
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arsh wrote:
Resurrecting Mughal-E-Azam
By Sam ©2004 Bollyvista.com

K. Asif's classic 'Mughal-E-Azam' after 44 years is being readied for re-release and this time the audience will see the film in colour with Dolby Digital Sound. Right now Naushad Saab is re-recording the original notes in current popular sound format retaining the original voices of the singers and music director Uttam Singh (Dil To Pagal Hai) is assisting him.


This version is sounding like a travesty! Colorization is bad enough, but they're messing with the soundtrack now? Have you guys heard HMV's Revival albums? They take the original songs and overlay them with new instruments. I bought one tape, but never again
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