http://indiafm.com/news/2005/10/21/6077/index.html doesn't give much details, but oh well. better than nothing?



better than reading about a Govinda Sandwhich!!
http://indiafm.com/news/2005/10/21/6069/index.html
lmao

hey yuvan

I am not really liking this

ramu has been talking abt this one for a while now, it is his hw remake of bhoot (one of his worst film imo)

I definitely think this will not work, people will just see it as a rip-off of countless other horror films

but w/ all these other asian horror films being remade, who knows??

what ramu needs is a hollywood scriptwriter to do some serious rewriting

and hopefully he will get a good cast also



are you serious dude, I can’t wait for sandwich!!!

I will be watching it opening day, like I do w/ all mahima films

Must Ram Gopal Verma be mentioned in the same breath as Terrence Malick?!

Well let's face it, Ram Gopal Varma is not really that great is he? We support him because he makes films different from the bollywood norm which we want to see and he's quite good at that. At one time we thought he could be the first crossover director, but now it doesn't look that way.
Satya was a very good film but none of his other films came close. Company was style over substance and was technically impressive, but the story went a little downhill after the first half. Sarkar looked good and had excellent performances but can't be taken too seriously as it an altered version of the Godfather and so not totally an original work. It was also missing that vital kick that made people remember Satya. Some people haven't noticed this but Kay-kay's character was based on Fredo from the Godfather. I'm mentioning this because of some people I came has discussed the film with who said that I should give RGV some credit for introducing a new character into the Godfather story. How could they not see this connection?

RGV is going downhill! Bhoot was pathetic and although it was inspired by the asian Horror genre, Ramu proved that he hasn't the talent to direct this sort of film, though at least he tried something original which is better than Sripal Morakhia whose Naina is a copy of The Eye. But I hear that Ramu planning to remake the megaflop James...why?!? I'm not sure what to expect from Sholay.

What a terrible idea. If it ever gets made, American audiences will laugh at it.

I hope that its one of those bright ideas that just goes away. Anyway Bhoot apparently has the same premise as Rosemary's Baby

Regarding Hollywood audiences laughing at it - Hollywood makes movies worse than Bhoot, just that no body sees them. Why would you want to make such a movie when you are attempting a crossover

Greatness is relative. I cant think of very many indian directors I would place above him. He is an excellent director not a very good story writer (or not good at selecting stories).

I hope he just gets away from this remaking business. IMO remaking is for directors who are bankrupt of ideas. I dont mind the occasional Sarkar especially since he says its his homage to one of his favorite films.

Even mediocre HW horror films have something disturbing to them. Bhoot was not very scary IMO. Its old-hat to an audience that has already seen The Exorcism.

Agreed. However there are also bad horror movies in HW. I have watched some on TV and DVD whan I had a lot of time. But as I said why would anyone want to aim for such a low target.

Good news. The production company says its not a remake of Bhoot

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1051023/a ... 388664.asp

For Varma’s ambitious project, though, Percept will camp in Manhattan once the maverick director is done with the remake of his own production, James. There’s a buzz of Within being the English version of Varma’s 2003 supernatural thriller Bhoot, but Percept officials rubbished the rumour. “It’s a horror film but not a remake of Bhoot. The estimated budget is $6 million (Rs 30 crore) with an entirely international cast and crew,” reveals marketing manager Manas Malhotra.

Once Within is over, Percept and Varma will come together again to produce his dream project Ek, which was shelved a year back when India-Pakistan relations improved. “It will only happen at the end of next year and will be on global terrorism. We are looking at a budget of $20 million (Rs 100 crore) and I believe Amitabh and Abhishek Bachchan have already been signed for the movie,” is all Malhotra is ready to divulge.

get off the ramu hating dude

and malick isn’t looking great himself these days

‘thin red line’ was bad, and casting colin farrell as the lead in ‘new world’ is a joke

but I guess we will have to wait and see abt that

sure ‘badlands’ and ‘days of heaven’ were both excellent, but what the hell has the guy done in the last 27 years??

the guy seems more interested in being a philosophy prof and producing documentaries




and the answer to that is - yes he is!

and why only talk abt satya, company and sarkar?? why no mention of shool, ab tak 56, main madhuri dixit, d, ek hasina thi, gaayam, my wife’s murder, naach, kaun or any other great ramu films

he is easily the best director we have in bollywood today

lets face it dude, the reason why all the other bollywood directors stink is b/c ramu is sitting at the top shitting all over them




I wouldn’t be so quick to judge

hollywood is really good when it comes to remaking horror films

no doubt ‘the ring’ was much better than ‘ringu’, the hw rewrite was definitely superior and had much more layers to it

I even found ‘the grudge’ to be slightly better than ‘ju-on’, and that was made by the same director

my point is that hollywood remakes can definitely make a tacky asian horror flick into something a bit more serious and darker

hell, hw is even planning a remake of ‘the eye’ and for those who have seen the original hk version of ‘the eye’ know what a garbage film it is.. but I am sure the hw version will have something much better to offer

I agree, ‘bhoot’ was a really bad film but that doesn’t say much abt how the hw remake would be

other things would also play a large factor, such as the casting of the film

but anyways, after the news that jag just posted(thanks for the news btw) ‘bhoot’ will not be remade anyways




you just described the majority of the horror genre today

most of the horror flicks which come out are heavily inspired by the older classics

that doesn’t stop anyone from watching them (esp in the us), the us is still a large market for horror films…that is why they are continuously making them/remking them left, right and centre

recently we have had 2 ring remakes(w/ a third on the way), 2 exorcist prequels, george a. romero’s seemingly endless zombie series, countless texas chainsaw remakes/sequels/prequels…and the list goes on and on

and people just eat that shit up

Errr no he isn't



This is the thing, most of movies you have mentioned are not even directed by RGV, yet they seem to have been credited to him as he’s the producer or business outfit behind them. I'd credit him with being a very good entrepreneur. But most of the work that associated with his name is talents of some other person.



Maybe I would have agreed with that statement few years back when only Rangeela, Satya and Kaun were about. But anything after that with the RGV name attached (especially as the director) to has been one disappointment after the other. I’m not saying the movie preceding this era were shit or anything, just that they didn’t have the same raw audacity that was shown in Rangeela, Satya and Kaun. And to some extent I agree with jag when he says greatness is relative, but I would not credit RGV with being a great director, his is a great businessman and publicity leech.

I came to this realisation (same way as Agent Smith did ) after watching Black Friday and reading people’s opinions on ‘What Went Wrong With Guy Ritchie Films’. If you ever liked Satya and have been wondering why can’t RGV rekindle the same magic with gangster movies after that, the reason is he doesn’t have the same writer magician that is Anurag Kashyap. When you watch Black Friday you realise who actually was the brains behind Satya. Not surprisingly when you start looking at credited work to Anurag Kashyap you see his name appears on Kaun and Shool. And that’s my point all the great work credited with the RGV name is actually the talents of other people. This is becoming more and more apparent as the ‘Factory’ is re-dishing copy after copy of Hollywood movies and remakes of Indian cinema classics. If Sholay ever gets remade it would no way compare with the original with RGV directing without great writer talents (remember Sholay is as much accredited to Javed Akhtar & Salim Khan as is to Sippy). To me this is another example of the RGV as the great businessman, as Sholay is much loved and remembered movie, it’ll be an instant money maker for him. Coming back to Guy Richie – his first two movies in which he made his name Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch are believed to talents of producer Matthew Vaughn – people realised Guy Ritchie is in fact a crap director watching Swept Away and Revolver when people watched Layer Cake directed by Matthew Vaughn which showed the same elements of talent that made Lock Stock and Snatch good. (hmmm although having said all that I’ve not seen Layer Cake yet – but this what I’ve read from various movie forums).

Rant summary; RGV is crap to OK director; is a good businessman. Guy Ritchie is RGV of Hollywood.

Ali

Yes I agree, he is one of the best directors we have in "bollywood", but then again that doesn't look very good when "bollywood" is an industry plagued by crap directors. As for those films you mentioned they are not RGV directed films, but directed by others, where RGV has put his name to or been associated with (Like Quentin Tarantini associated with Hero but had nothing to do with the film). I think those films are over-hyped and not very good either...just better than the norm of bollywood films. I'm glad RGV didn't direct them or I'd be even more dissapointed.

Sorry, but I'm still recovering from how bad Bhoot was...it was terrible! I saw Sarkar again yesterday for the 2nd time but didn't like it much this time. It seemed too short, there wasn't enough intensity, the gangsters wern't convincing at all - especially Ashutosh Rana's Swamiji looked stereotypical and stupid. Are there really Gangster Swamis in India? If there are, then who the hell is scared of them? There's no way you can take them seriously. I'm shocked that there are some morons on IMDB who think this is better than The Godfather! Nayakan was far better than this.

and deservingly so, lets face it the guy does everything except get on the sets and actually direct

that includes casting the film, picking the crew members, working on the script and looking over most of the post production…the guy does it all

and I think these quotes by rohit(the james director) say it all…
“I refuse to work like a clone like everybody else at the Factory!”
“He approves of each and every single line in the script. What he doesn't like, he cuts.”
“The young director claims that RGV 'interferes' in a film from the scripting stage to the editing table”
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2005/oct/21james.htm

it is no surprise, that is why all his productions seem like he has directed them himself

and just look at the example of directors like e.nivas, rajat mukherjee, chandan arora
they all looked like solid new directors working under ramu, but once they went on their own they made nothing but garbage

it is clear that ramu deserves the credit for his films



I agree ‘rangeela’, ‘satya’ and ‘kaun’ are all very good films but clearly when it comes to ramu’s best works those obviously came later in career w/ films like - company, ab tak 56, main madhuri dixit, d, ek hasina thi, my wife’s murder and naach



crediting ‘satya’ to kashyap is the biggest pile of bs I have ever heard
as if the direction and treatment of ramu, the great performances (manoj, shefali shah, urmila, saurabh shukla), vishal’s music, chowta’s score and bhanodaya’s editing had nothing to do w/ it?!?

sure kashyap co wrote the screenplay w/ saurabh shukla, but you just need to watch ramu’s ‘antam’ to know that the story was heavily inspired from that(which was written by varma himself)

so your whole brains behind the success theory is like I said - BS

and why are we crediting shool to kashyap also?? ramu wrote ‘shool’, all kashyap did was the dialogues

as for kashyap’s ‘black friday’ - that was a mess
it was long, monotonous, poorly structured and in serious need of some editing

there was nothing impressive abt it - including kashyap’s script and direction



aside from his recent ‘godfather’ homage, what direct copy are you talking abt??

now it is clear that ramu has been influenced by hollywood, and no doubt his films are made w/ hw style and treatment - but that is definitely a good thing

and ‘remakes of Indian cinema classics’??

he has only announced one w/ ‘sholay’ and he has not even made that yet



‘great writing talents’ and sholay?!?

‘sholay’ was nothing more than a formulaic curry western - a mix and match of classic westerns plus the usual masala ingredients - song/dance, melodrama, overacting…

anything that ramu does to it will be an improvement



and ali dude you really need to watch layer cake, it is a horrible film completely lacking the energy, cleverness and wit of ‘lock, stock’ and ‘snatch’

it is clear whoever was behind the magic of ‘lock, stock’ and ‘snatch’, it definitely wasn’t matthew vaughn

and matthew vaughn produced ‘swept away’ also, though again you seemed to have missed that important point

and don’t get me wrong, I agree that ramu is a great businessman but he is a more talented filmmaker…

and sure he occasionally comes out w/ a mediocre film or even a stinker - but the guy still manages to come out w/ 2 or 3 great films a year

meanwhile the rest of these bollywood hacks(johar, rks, gowariker, farhan akhtar) wish they could come out w/ 2 or 3 decent films throughout their entire careers

and I agree that filmmaking (or more importantly great filmmaking) is definitely a collaborative effort

but when the name rgv is behind the majority of great bw films released in the last decade, it is not hard to figure out why ramu is the greatest and most exciting filmmaker working in bollywood today

This quote and the fact that you are a RGV slave ...., has pretty much convinced me that your viewpoint can never be changed . That said you loose your credibility when you compare and contrast artist , esp. when you shun someone just to increase the stature of another ..... that i think is in poor taste .

While some see crap coming out of RGV's "factory", others see it as golden egg(s) - the difference imo is really in the eye of the beholder.

If my opinion matters i think RGV is a "good" director not a "great" one .