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Bhoot has rattled Bollywood formulas: Varma SUBHASH K JHA

IANS[ SUNDAY, JUNE 08, 2003 01:19:30 PM ]

MUMBAI: His cinema has always shaken the status quo. And now with Bhoot, Bollywood is rattled.


Contrary to all scepticism Ram Gopal Varma's latest song-less directorial venture has turned out to be the surprise success of the year. Bhoot shakes many of the most rigid conventions of mainstream moviemaking.


The ace director in an interview talks about what it means to be such a prolific path-breaker. Excerpts.


Are you surprised by the success of Bhoot?


Well, if I went by what the so-called experts had to say, Bhoot didn't stand a chance in hell. If one takes an experimental risk like Bhoot and it proves to be a success, obviously one's faith in what one is doing is reaffirmed.


Though a small-budgeted film, it took an opening as huge as any of the big budgeted films. The film's budget (Rs 65 million) has been recovered in the first three days. Now I'm determined to be more experimental than ever before.


Songless films were always supposed to be hostile to the box-office?


I believe B R Chopra's Kanoon in 1960 was the last songless film that opened to a huge audience. The other songless film, Ittefaq, came at the peak of Rajesh Khanna's popularity. My own songless horror film, Raat, was a disaster. For Bhoot I was told only ghosts would be in the audience.


Three very different films -- Ishq Vishq, Andaaz and Bhoot -- have clicked one after another. What does it mean for the film industry?


I can't really comment on the other films. But the success of Bhoot would make a hell of a difference. The film is shot and treated very differently from the way the industry perceives a potentially successful product.


A large section of the trade has rigid views on what the audience wants. I think the biggest mistake the film industry can make is to treat the audience like cattle who have fixed notions of acceptable entertainment. If we know so much about what the audience wants how come 95 percent of our films flop?


Why do you think Bhoot worked?


It remained straight to the point. I had this concept of direct narration in mind from the time I made Satya. But somewhere I ended up putting songs in Satya and Jungle. I've nothing against songs. Audiences do go to see songs.


In Road, I wanted audiences to have no breathing space to lean back in their seats. Yet I ended up inserting songs, hence came the love story and other digressions that ruined the plot. I feel Bhoot has opened a new genre of cinema. It proves audiences are receptive to all types of films.


My firm view is audiences will go for anything that entertains them. So many years ago Ramesh Sippy's Sholay or for that matter Guru Dutt's cinema set new patterns of editing and shot composition, and the audiences accepted them wholeheartedly.


So you're putting your money where your mouth is?


You can say that. I broke rules in Bhoot. One of them was the myth that heroes, not heroines, make film run. Our leading ladies have been led to believe the audience comes to see their costumes and hairstyle. But look at Kajol. She never cared about her looks. That's why she played characters. In Hollywood, Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts are hardly lookers. Yet they have a draw. In Bhoot, Urmila Matondkar broke the mindset about heroines.


Then there's the myth about the playing time of a film. In Mumbai, we believe every film has to be three hours long whereas in Hollywood the running time is variable according to the story being told.


Common sense told me to make Bhoot only two hours long. I think it will give other filmmakers the courage to go into different areas and format. Even our male actors are growing aware of their jurisdiction in the cinema space.


Bruce Willis did only two scenes in Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction. Fardeen Khan does just that in Bhoot. He realises that impact has nothing to do with the duration of a role. All the stars in Bhoot - Ajay Devgan, Urmila, Rekha - have been liked for their unconventional presentation.


Would you now be tempted to make films within a restricted budget for quick recovery of investments?


No, the budget will be dictated entirely by the nature of the product. Bhoot was made in one apartment on a shoestring budget. And yet it has taken an opening equal to a Rs 300 million film.


On the other hand, Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Devdas cost a lot more to make. But it was worth every penny it cost because it enriched our lives. Whether it's Rs 60 million or Rs 600 million, it doesn't matter.


So is the 'formula' dead?


The formula is an offshoot of filmmakers' insecurity. They'd rather copy what's successful for the fear of failing. In the 1970s, Manmohan Desai made a huge success of the 'lost-and-found' audience and in the 1990s there was Hum Aapke Hain Kaun and Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge.


Filmmakers said they were making family films because that's what audiences wanted. Actually they were copying Sooraj Barjatya and Aditya Chopra.


Now there'll be several Bhoot spin-offs in theatres.


Hopefully not Bhoot spin-offs but shorter songless films. Let me clarify, my next production, Darna Manaa Hai, isn't a horror film. I don't know how to categorise it.


I had nothing to do with the shooting of Darna Manaa Hai. I no longer intervene in the productions that I'm not directing. My next directorial venture, Ek, will cost 10 times more than Bhoot. It goes on the floors in September-October. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll....d=12441
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Sold for just 25 lakhs it has got distributors share of 32 lakhs in the 1st week and is set to be a clean hit(A) in the territory.

The film got shares of more than 20 lakhs from just 4 centres Chandigarh,Ludhiana,Gurgaon and Jalandhar(despite violence breaking out midweek).

It is the 1st RGV film to be a hit in the East Punjab territory even Rangeela was just an average fare.Obviously the low price of Bhoot has helped.
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6.5 crore which he claims was recovered in a span of 3 days.

"Though a small-budgeted film, it took an opening as huge as any of the big budgeted films. The film's budget (Rs 65 million) has been recovered in the first three days. Now I'm determined to be more experimental than ever before."
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Rana!! can u pls. evaluate TARAN's figures:

Box Office Collections

By Taran Adarsh

At a meeting between A.M.P.T.P.P., the film producers' association, and the trade magazines, it has been mutually decided to do away with the system of revealing the percentages. Therefore, only the box-office collections will be mentioned henceforth.

Bhoot - 1st week

Mumbai - 1,02,31,616
Ahmedabad - 34,79,360
Palanpur - 4,33,160
Jamnagar - 2,96,834
Pune - 30,86,754
Bijapur - 1,44,000
Delhi - 1,10,20,515
Ghaziabad - 2,79,977
Kanpur - 1,79,056 (6 dy.)
Agra - 45,034
Allahabad - 1,50,000
Dehradun - 2,25,000
Meerut - 1,67,465
Moradabad - 1,21,536
Bareilly - 82,154 (6 dy.)
Kolkata - 18,64,573
Nagpur - 4,64,913
Raipur - 1,78,825 (6 dy.)
Jalgaon - 1,32,635
Yavatmal - 59,302
Chandrapur - 1,72,677
Jaipur - 3,18,537
Kota - 1,39,975 (6 dy.)
Chennai - 7,34,251
(Average per print: 4,30,483)

Jajantaram Mamantaram - 1st week

Mumbai - 37,62,850
Ahmedabad - 6,74,160
Vadodara - 2,13,764
Pune - 5,86,907
Delhi - 30,21,639
Kanpur - 1,50,745
Agra - 2,23,000
Allahabad - 48,160
Meerut - 1,12,165
Bareilly - 2,74,824
Moradabad - 70,437
Amritsar - 40,226
Kolkata - 3,70,044
Nagpur - 1,29,489
Jaipur - 1,23,096
(Average per print: 2,02,696)

Andaaz - 2nd week

Mumbai - 38,20,330
Ahmedabad - 19,09,533
Jamnagar - 1,99,247
Pune - 8,50,610
Hubli - 87,965
Belgaum - 1,23,004
Delhi - 35,36,121
Ghaziabad - 1,24,289
Kanpur - 5,67,373
Agra - 3,05,435
Allahabad - 2,44,000
Meerut - 2,97,770
Bareilly - 1,31,678 (6 dy.)
Moradabad - 1,64,333
Dehradun - 1,41,922
Kolkata - 9,16,079
Raipur - 94,116
Jalgaon - 98,530
Yawatmal - 30,393
Jaipur - 2,54,676
Kota - 1,15,430
(Average per print: 2,22,426)

Armaan - 3rd week

Mumbai - 10,75,151
Jamnagar - 62,317
Pune - 4,17,528
Delhi - 3,16,226
Kanpur - 1,62,972
Allahabad - 25,000
Dehradun - 39,252
Kolkata - 3,41,519
Nagpur - 80,726
Kota - 9,105 (12 sh.)
Chennai - 89,299 (14 sh)
(Average per print: 93,539)

Ishq Vishk - 4th week

Mumbai - 10,89,406
Ahmedabad - 2,22,531
Jamnagar - 25,069
Pune - 2,91,873
Delhi - 6,66,407
Kanpur - 52,827 (6 dy.)
Allahabad - 36,341
Agra - 38,761
Meerut - 28,065
Dehradun - 36,818
Kolkata - 1,66,186
Nagpur - 40,576
Raipur - 32,621
Jaipur - 24,255
Kota - 15,190 (12 sh.)
Chennai - 78,013 (7 sh.)
(Average per print: 83,675)


Archives of Box Office collections
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arsh wrote:
Rana!! can u pls. evaluate TARAN's figures:

Box Office Collections


Bhoot - 1st week

Mumbai - 1,02,31,616

Delhi - 1,10,20,515

(Average per print: 4,30,483)

Jajantaram Mamantaram - 1st week

Mumbai - 37,62,850

Delhi - 30,21,639

(Average per print: 2,02,696)

Andaaz - 2nd week

Mumbai - 38,20,330
Ahmedabad - 19,09,533

Delhi - 35,36,121
(Average per print: 2,22,426)

Armaan - 3rd week

Mumbai - 10,75,151
Delhi - 3,16,226

(Average per print: 93,539)

Ishq Vishk - 4th week

Mumbai - 10,89,406

Delhi - 6,66,407
(Average per print: 83,675)

No analysis but just comments:

BHOOT Average per print: 4,30,483 must be the higest and a record for a Hindi Film? I don't think even The Hero, with jacked up ticket prices, made this much?

ANDAAZ 2nd week collections are about one half of first week collections. For the movie, I liked, I wish it did better. Anyway, it has been declared a Hit anyway.

Moreover, I was in Toronto yesterday. Couldn't watch BHOOT for more than 35 min because my 7 year old was too scared. (Watched the movie till little past Urmilla in Theatre and bhoot dream sequence). I, more than recovered the ticket price as the theatre staff let me see ANDAAZ and my 7 year old let me sit through the RABBA ISHQ NA HOVAY song.

BHOOT may be a bigger hit in India, but in Toronto, ANDAAZ, in a show in it's third week had more than double the audience of BHOOT, (in it's 2nd week) in the show at the same trime. BTW, both films had decent attendance. Much more than I have seen at Albion in the recent months.



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((((Bhoot didn't stand a chance in hell)))


A MUSHY film, like ANDAAZ with enough GLAMOUR, EXPOSE SKIN from TWO BEAUTY QUEENS, MELODIOUS SONGS..Can explain the attendance/fate..

But film like BHOOT, where, most people cant even go, as they cant DUMP kids, and have no HUMMING score, Skins, expose and beauty queens dancing in alps..to explain attendance!!

It is PURELY on MERIT basis!! This film, has DONE ITS BUISNESS!!AMAZING!!

BTWW!! you should have taken the KID for JAANTAR MANTAAR...LOL..he would have loved it..mine did..but they were ike: DIL MAANGE MORE>>Not enough, SFX and MAGIC to SUFFICE their HIGH STANDARDS!!

I personally FEEL, it is EXTREME DISFAVOUR/UNJUSTIFIED to expose a kid for whatever reason to watch BHOOT!!

I wish, they can offer, 2 hrs, free day care with GBA and videogames, free set up, by VARMA PRODUCTIOn, for parents to DUMP kids and ENJOY BHOOT![quote]



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Arsh, how do you rate the scary scenes in BHOOT till that Urmilla's theatre scene with ghosts turning into dream sequence??

I know, many were really screeming in the theatre, but those scenes didn't have any scaring impact on me. May be because I was expecting them or may be more scary sequences were still to come. I'm not claiming that I don't get scared. I'm sure, if the same scaring and mysterious sounds came from behind, I might have jumped off my seat too (mine was not a surround sound presentation).

I know Bhoot is not a kid's movie, so some adult scenes are OK. But, some scenes in the first 40 min of Bhoot were much more embarrasing if watching the film with elder family members, where as, I found nothing embarrasing in ANDAAZ. Glamour photography is not Skin photography.

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Yep!! if u mean, Where Urmila looks HOT/CHIC and Ajay is invited..but that ended quickly..I agree!! But it is MINIMAL from Hindi film's now a days STNDARD!!

But I think, film, s ambience, couple's attire, attitude, living, kinda looked extremely realistic..

I have repeatedly said...BHOOT was not SCARRY for me!!

Those scarry scenes are very well done!1 But May be I need more to get scared?

I still, will rate, KAUN, more THRILLING, Scarry and UNPREDICTABLE!!

You missed that 2nd half, with AMAZING, Nana as Inspector Liyaqat(he gives you some break, from movie's chilling(?) ambience) and absolutely GORGEOUS, Rekha Aapa...Man, she looks younger than even Ajay, ofcourse, lot younger than TANUJA, but ofcourse, not younger than URMILLA, who really LOOKED CHIC in this film..extremely POLISHED!

I would have loved to see more of SEEMA BISWAS, whose SILLY smile, was amazingly, breathtaking..superb.

Nana' Patekar's timing, and More of Rekha's Tantaruik, adventours...But due to Limited length and duration of film, those roles leave u, DIL MAANGE MORE, to see them, more!!

Even Fardeen Khan was GOOD at CLIMAX!!

I would not still, NAME those GOOD SCENES, I liked!! Because, I dont want other people who still have to see the film, to discover them on their own..and enjoy.

If this FILM, would have been dragged for more than 2 hrs!! it will, LOOSE its PACE/EFFECT really bad!

To me those 2 hrs, felt like 1 hr only..Interval point was done WELL too..I must admit, I personally, enjoyed it Thoroughly.

Most people, I think, almost all, in my group, seemed to enjoy and were on EDGE of their SEATS..

I went with company, to help me from real scare(as claimed)...but, i could have watched alone too!!
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Just out of interest......what was the interval point? The film didn't stop when I saw it......carried on for two hours straight.
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I got in at 7:05 PM (for a 7 PM show) and the movie was already on. Ajay making a deal for the Apt. No Interval and the audience came out at 9:07 PM.

This means at least 125 min film plus end credits if any. I wonder if some scenes are cut in some print releases??

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It took, 2 and half hour in my screening..Main film, was about Exact 2 hrs..(1 hr 59 minutes..including every thing..interval for chaii, samaosa and CC preview 30 minutes..

I would have loved to watch it straight..but INTERVAL, did not take away from my viewing..
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