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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:02 am 
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I liked it on first listen, with "Jab se tere naina" being my favorite song.


mine too! man! how come!!I like the way it develops into qawali style!

It is growing on by day to day!

No doubt that it is not on par with HDDCS/DEVDAS, SLB/Darbar combos!! that is monumental to achieve! It was music at its best! and as I said Sameer's so so ordinary lyrics are a stab from the back imho!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:55 am 
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Zoran009 wrote:
Jeet wrote:
I liked it on first listen, with "Jab se tere naina" being my favorite song.


mine too! man! how come!!I like the way it develops into qawali style!

It is growing on by day to day!

No doubt that it is not on par with HDDCS/DEVDAS, SLB/Darbar combos!! that is monumental to achieve! It was music at its best! and as I said Sameer's so so ordinary lyrics are a stab from the back imho!


No it is no Devdas or HDDCS, although it borrows heavily from both. I agree, the lyrics are very simple and ordinary.

However, I think it is decent enough, and if it turns out to be a good/well made film, the music will grow.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:43 pm 
It’s hit and miss songs mixed platter, few digestable songs, few bland ones

re: Jaan e Jaan is it lifted from a retro French tune?

hope Sanjay Leela won’t remain stagnate in film remake rut (devdas, black>>excellent remake btw) easy way out going with the flow kissing up to RGV trend


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:45 pm 
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himmesh wrote:
It’s hit and miss songs mixed platter, few digestable songs, few bland ones

re: Jaan e Jaan is it lifted from a retro French tune?

hope Sanjay Leela won’t remain stagnate in film remake rut (devdas, black>>excellent remake btw) easy way out going with the flow kissing up to RGV trend


He is following in shoe steps after greats of VVC , RGV, Ghai etc!

For music he has to kiss and make up with his old touchy pal Ismail Darbar! They both are nothing without each other, looks like! Monty can stay behind back ground in the long run. Imho, if SLB has to use other composers to fit in Darbar shoes, then, he has to think twice!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:33 pm 
Looks like SLB kisses many just to stay in the race :lol:

Monty's music seems forgettable after listening.

qwaalii tune caught me off guard when Yoon Shabnami song starts slow and easy then picks up to traditional mode. not too bad song, different, heard better ones of this nature such as Aashiq ho to aisa ho from Noorie

Alka yagnik , Gunjawala, Shaan and gypsy girls voice Sharma songs so-so

Shreya's Sawar Gayi is one of the best on album


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:36 pm 
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ali ikram bhaii where are you! Jhalak dikhla kar gum? May be when you stop by, or comments, might as well, revise the title of your thread 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:02 am 
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Gosh, arsh bhai calm down. I hear ya and have changed the title of the thread.

Actually, I quite like the album overall. Quite a bit better than OSO, and it is one of the best soundtracks this year.

As I expected, there is a definite Devdas hang-over not only in the trailers, but also the music. But so be it. Each director will always have his own trademark sound/style.

I'd have to disagree in terms of ranking of this soundtrack lower than Darbar's creations for SLB. HDDCS had a few immortal melodies, but also some downright ear killing tracks. (e.g. the "ajaa re ajaa chanda" refrains from Chand Chuppa, "Kaipoche" in its entirety, the overhyped drivel of "Nimbooda").
Some of Saawariya is derivative (e.g. Thode Badmaash sounds like Bairi Piya Part II), but it is consistently well tuned and melodious. Title track is a gem, and "Jab Se Tere Naina" is perfect for an amorous situation with the wife. Heck, even Chabeela rocks. And it achieves it playful naughtiness objective with such ease thanks to Alka.
Sameer's name, I will admit, credited as "Words by" scared and amused me. But I have a feeling that SLB chose him this time because Sameer's songs are easily remembered by most folks. Some times that is annoying, but lucky for us, it is not dumbed down to the level of a nadeem-shravan soundtrack here. Plus, it makes his songs easier to remember. (e.g. How much of "Dola Re Dola" do you remember other than the title words? Had Sameer written it, there would have been enough Pyaar, Dil, Piya, Jaans, etc in it to keep it forever in your mind's bank.) 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:52 am 
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Is Sanjay Leela Bhansali the first commerical hindi film director who also edit's his movie? In any case, it's quite comforting to realize that more "bollywood" film directors are jumping the band-wagon of contributing to the other facets of the film-making tasks.

As for the soundtrack, it's worth it alone to know that Parthiv Gohil is singing a song or two. For those of you who know what I mean, would agree. And for those that don't know who Parthiv Gohil is, well, back in the late 90s, he was a star singer on Sa Re Ga Ma Pa, hosted by than Sonu Nigam. Parthiv Gohil showcased that he can sing with great effort from folk, classical, old hindi songs, pop, punjabi, pretty much everything under the Indian music radar. A true testament of one's singing virtue, and Parthiv Gohil was always on fire.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:06 pm 
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I thought either Ghaii, or DD is also editor?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:45 pm 
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Raj Kapoor also edited his own films. SLB's not the first by a long shot.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:44 pm 
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Hrishikesh Mukherjee and Vijay Anand edited their own films and at times edited a few films for others when they were stuck with extra long films and did not know what to do with them. Sanjay Leela Bhansali in my opinion should never edit his own films. For someone as self indulgent as Sanjay Leela Bhansali, the worst thing would be for him to edit his own films. In fact in my opnion all his films need to be re-edited by a really good editor to edit all the unneccessary over melodramatic stuff his films are full of. By the way in my opinion, editing is the one most important aspect of film making that is totally neglected in India. Almost every single film made in Bollywood could use a re-edit by a good editor.

PS: David Dhawan was initially an editor before he turned to directing.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:42 pm 
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Sanjay wrote:
By the way in my opinion, editing is the one most important aspect of film making that is totally neglected in India. Almost every single film made in Bollywood could use a re-edit by a good editor.

Pre-WW1, it was the belief in European cinema that an editor was held with the highest regard of making a film, even more than the director. For me, it's always interesting too see a present day filmmaker to take keen interest in editing his/her own film, since the two jobs demand for a common ground vision for the ultimate final cut.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:51 pm 
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Stephen wrote:
Raj Kapoor also edited his own films. SLB's not the first by a long shot.


Also Guru Dutt edited his films ... I think though that the editor can make or break a film.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:12 am 
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Sanjay wrote:
Hrishikesh Mukherjee and Vijay Anand edited their own films and at times edited a few films for others when they were stuck with extra long films and did not know what to do with them.


Mukherjee was an editor before he was a director. He edited some of Bimal Roy's films.

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Sanjay Leela Bhansali in my opinion should never edit his own films. For someone as self indulgent as Sanjay Leela Bhansali, the worst thing would be for him to edit his own films. In fact in my opnion all his films need to be re-edited by a really good editor to edit all the unneccessary over melodramatic stuff his films are full of.


SLB as editor and producer? Uh oh!

In general its a better idea to have an impartial person as an editor, since he'll only be thinking about what footage should be in the film rather than how long it took to get a certain shot, how cool a shot looks, etc.

I recommend Walter Murch's book In the Blink of an Eye. Its about Murch's general philosophy of editing but its not a "how to" book. Murch's editing work includes The Conversation and Apocalypse Now.


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