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So KANK and Dhoom have managed to steal a nomination in every major category. how surprizing! :roll:


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I suggest that we start our own Zulmi awards.
Categories limited to:

1. Best Film
2. Best Director
3. Best Actor in a leading role
4. Best Actress in a leading role
5. Best Actor in a supporting role
6. Best Actress in a supporting role
7. Best Music
8. Best Lyrics
9. Best Singer (Male)
10. Best Singer (Female)

Points:
5 points for no 1
4 points for no 2
3 points for no 3
2 points for no 4
1 point for no 5

We can each have upto five nominations in each category and then based on the points earned we determine a final nomination list. Then everyone votes on the final nominees.


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that is very good idea!!

may be ali can start a thread for voting!

Imagine, looks like blockbusters award, film rented the most gets the award :lol: :shock:

imagine status of the industry's creativity where films like don, dhoom 2 are considered their the best effort :oops:


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I can-t speculate as the nominations seem to make no sense to me. Someone at indiafm wrote this blog (definitely not me) and I agree 100% with it (except for DHOOM 2 nomination for music, I liked DHOOM 2 music).
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Blog: Filmfare is not 'fair' at all!
By IndiaFM News Bureau, February 17, 2007 - 09:05 IST
Nominations for the 52nd Filmfare awards are out and certainly purchased by big shots of the industry before hand. Filmfare in India is equivalent of Oscars in the US and BAFTA in the UK. I do not agree with the final contenders of the awards, hence, a review.

Best Film nominations:

Dhoom 2
Don
Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna
Krrish
Lage Raho Munnabhai
Rang De Basanti

Apart from Krrish (Due to the concept and appeal and being the 1st true Superhero of Bollywood), Lage raho Munnabhai (No questions about it!) and Rang De Basanti (The best of the decade), no other movie which is nominated deserves to be in this category.

Answer this: WHY on earth 'Omkara' is not on the list? 'DOR', 'Khosla ka Ghosla', 'Woh Lamhe' or 'Gangster' seems to be avoided! One of a kind 'Vivah' which deserves a nomination is also forgotten completely.

Don is a remake, nothing original and was too long. Dhoom 2 had a wrong message integrated in it and if Yashraj were paying for the nominations, they should have chosen Fanna instead. Kabhi Alvida Na
Kehena (Are you kidding man!) was the most senseless film I have seen in recent times!

Best Director Nominations:

Karan Johar (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)
Rakesh Roshan (Krrish)
Rakeysh Mehra (Rang De Basanti)
Rajkumar Hirani (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Sanjay Gadhvi (Dhoom 2)
Vishal Bhardwaj (Omkara)

Disappointing! When Technology takes over the director's seat the nominations for humans can be avoided. Dhoom-2 and Krrish for the best direction is a hard candy to swallow! Where as without nomination, Mohit Suri's best work till date and maturity of handling the sensitive topic in 'Woh Lamhe' was the talk of the town and same goes for Anurag 'Gangster' Basu is left on the streets to die. Madhur Bhandarkar's 'Corporate' is another example and one is Dibakar Banerjee's 'Khosla ka Ghosla'.

For the first time we saw a new way of storytelling through Shirish Kunder in 'Jaan-e-mann', where he missed?

Let us not talk about 'Dor', 'Fanna', 'Vivah', 'Kabul Express' and 'Pyaar ke side effects'.

Karan Johar is okay for the nomination but should not win! The best options are Rakesh Mehera or Vishal Bharadwaj. Though, Rajkumar Hirani is giving them tough competition.

Best Actor in a leading role (Male) nominations:

Aamir Khan (Rang De Basanti)
Hrithik Roshan (Dhoom 2)
Hrithik Roshan (Krrish)
Sanjay Dutt (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Shahrukh Khan (Don)
Shahrukh Khan (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)

Did someone forget that Hritik was the negative lead in Dhoom-2? And SRK's was also the negative role in 'Don'? What was unique with SRK in 'KANK'? Aamir for RDB is a well deserved nomination, so is our Munnabhai as Sunjay Dutt or the other way around!

What about Aamir for 'Fanna'? Ajay for 'Omkara'? Salmaan in 'Jaan-e-Mann'? Shiney Ahuja in 'Gangster' and 'Woh Lamhe'?

Did someone see the movie 'PKSE'? It was a very good film.

Ajay or Salman are sure going to get the so called 'critics' award! Hell!

Best Actor in a leading role (Female) nominations:

Aishwarya Rai (Dhoom 2)
Bipasha Basu (Corporate)
Kajol (Fanaa)
Kareena Kapoor (Omkara)
Rani Mukerji (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)

Hold it man! Ash was the vamp in 'Dhoom 2'. Rani just cried her eyes out in 'KANK'. Rest nominations are Okay but again tell me where Alice Patten from 'RDB', Ayesha Takiya from 'Dor', Kangana Ranaut from 'Gangster'or 'Woh Lamhe' , and the one and only Urmila from 'Banaras' or even Mallika Sheravat for 'PKSE' missed the nomination?

Best Actor in a supporting role (Male) nominations:

Abhishek Bachchan (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)
Amitabh Bachchan (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)
John Abraham (Baabul)
Kunal Kapoor (Rang De Basanti)
Siddharth (Rang De Basanti)

Abhishek was never in form in 'KANK'. Amitabh's Sexy Sam was a comedy. John was wooden in 'Baabul'. Only the nominations from RDB are worthwhile. But tell me was the part played by Atul Kulkarni or Madhavan or Sharman Joshi in RDB doesn't well enough for nomination?

Let's say, The Gandhi from Munnabhai was convincing enough? Or Alok Nath from 'Vivah' was not netural enough to get water in your eyes? What about the Akshay of 'Jaan-e-Mann'?

Best Actor in a supporting role (Female) nominations:

Kirron Kher (Rang De Basanti)
Konkona Sen Sharma (Omkara)
Priety Zinta (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)
Rekha (Krrish)
Soha Ali Khan (Rang De Basanti)

Agree to all but want to pay tribute to the rest deserving candidates. Masumeh for a chilling role in 'Woh Lamhe', Sima Biswaas for believable acting without dialogues in 'Vivah', Gul Panag for a solid performance in 'Dor', Juhi Chawala for 'Bas Ek Pal'.

Best Actor in a comic role nominations:

Arshad Warsi (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Chunkey Pandey (Apna Sapna Money Money)
Paresh Rawal (Phir Hera Pheri)
Sharman Joshi (Golmaal)
Tusshar Kapoor (Golmaal)

They say comedy is a serious game! Circuit from Munnabhai is a cult character now but had a little to do when Mahatma Gandhi himself was starring in the same film. Not just Chunkey Pandey but all the characters were overshadowed by the one and only Ritesh Deshmukh in 'Apna Sapna Money Money'. Paresh from 'Phir hera Pheri' was run-of-the-mill and Golmaal was never meant to be for a healthy comedy.

So here are we left with some worst combination of nominees possible for the best award!

Her we go with Shreyas Talpade from 'Dor', Akshay and Govinda from 'Bhagambhag', Akshay from 'Jaan-e-Mann', Ranveer Shouri from 'PKSE' and 'Mixed Doubles', Uday Chopra from 'Dhoom 2', Amitabh Bachhan from 'KANK', Rietesh Deshmukh from 'ASMM', Deepak Dobrial from 'Omkara', Paresh Raval for 'Chup Chup Ke' and the one and only Rajpal Yadav for the same film 'Chup Chup Ke'.

Any complains?

Best Actor in a negative role nominations:

Boman Irani (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Emraan Hashmi (Gangster)
John Abraham (Zinda)
Naseeruddin Shah (Krrish)
Saif Ali Khan (Omkara)

Saif is my all time favorite for this award. He is going to win this for sure. Rest all are just cancellations. Apart from Comedy, this is the only category without any nomination from 'Kabhi Alvida na kehna', isn't it saying something?

Best Music Nominations:

A R Rahman (Rang De Basanti)
Himesh Reshammiya (Aksar)
Jatin-Lalit (Fanaa)
Pritam (Dhoom 2)
Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy (Don)
Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)

'Don' is nominated but 2 of it's tracks were used same as were in the ol'70's film and title track was made-up from the background score or the theme music of the old film. So where is creativity? On the other hand, the Musical which was 'Jaan-e-Mann' needed the nomination for the first ever opera style execution for a motion picture in India with some good melodies inside too!

So are we really considering Himesh Reshamiya's 'Aksar' work as Ghost Raising? Was his album better then the soulful melodies and some chartbusters from 'Omkara' or 'Lage Raho Munnabhai' or of the folk-art of 'DOR'? Pritam's 'Ankahi' is his best till date but also has got no place on the list.

And finally...

WHO on earth in his true state of mind can nominate 'Dhoom 2' in the best music category over 'Bas Ek Pal', 'Gangster', 'Pyaar ke side effects' and 'Woh Lamhe'! These four albums rocked the sales and charts for months and still hot favorites and much better then Dhoom 2's non-melodic sounds. And did someone say 'Taxi no. 9211'?

From the rest of the lot, A R Rahman (Rang De Basanti) is a sure winner of the nominated lot. Jatin-Lalit's Fanaa is an interesting choice as the legendary duo had a last laugh with this score. And finally Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna) had got a nomination which should remain a nomination because no great shakes for the score of KANK. They should win for 'Salaam-e-Ishq' next year!

Apart from these most popular categories, there are several more categories and everywhere you see the proofs of biased-ness of the Filmfare and the Times group can be seen.

Will they give ‘Jaan-e-Mann’ for best Background Score or Best Editing or Best Choreography?

This is the time when Filmfare should standup on its own feet and TOI should implement the 'India Poised' campaign here also.

Disappointing.

Dushyant’s blog can be accessed at http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0GMB2kw1 ... cq=1&p=445



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imho, it is pathetic for bollywood to copy hollywood films and then send back to them as oscar nominees...with no shame :oops: :shock:


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I don't see nowadays how you can go into a cinema to see a "bollywood" film and think you're about to see a great film. When I go I usually hope it's not as bad as I fear.
I don't understand how you guys could still support bollywood so much. I'd like to, but I just can't. I've been disappointed far too many times.

Looking at those lists made me realise that most were really quite bad, they shouldn't even be on the list. Hasn't the film industry done many good films of the past year? It seems these award shows are just another excuse for over-rated stage performances and giving awards to big-name-banner films (e.g. Yash Raj) and the usual popular award-friendly actors (e.g. SRK), regardless if their films are good or not. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:54 pm 
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Best Film:
Gangster
Khosla Ka Ghosla
Lage Raho Munnabhai
Omkara
Rang De Basanti

Best Director:
Anurag Basu (Gangster)
Dibakar Banerjee (Khosla Ka Ghosla)
Rakeysh Mehra (Rang De Basanti)
Rajkumar Hirani (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Vishal Bhardwaj (Omkara)

Best Actor in a leading role (Male):
Aamir Khan (Rang De Basanti)
Anupam Kher (Khosla Ka Ghosla)
Hrithik Roshan (Dhoom 2)
Saif Ali Khan (Omkara)
Sanjay Dutt (Lage Raho Munnabhai)

Best Actor in a leading role (Female):
Alice Patten (Rang De Basanti)
Bipasha Basu (Corporate)
Kangana Ranaut (Gangster)
Kareena Kapoor (Omkara)
Urmila Matondkar (Banaras)

Best Actor in a supporting role (Male):
Arshad Warsi (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Boman Irani (Khosla Ka Ghosla)
Boman Irani (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Deepak Dobrial (Omkara)
Kunal Kapoor (Rang De Basanti)
Ranvir Shorey (Khosla Ka Ghosla)
Siddharth (Rang De Basanti)

Best Actor in a supporting role (Female):
Gul Panag (Dor)
Juhi Chawala (Bas Ek Pal)
Kirron Kher (Rang De Basanti)
Konkona Sen Sharma (Omkara)
Soha Ali Khan (Rang De Basanti)
Tara Sharma (Khosla Ka Ghosla)

Best Music Nominations:
Anu Malik (Umrao Jaan)
A. R. Rahman (Rang De Basanti)
Jatin-Lalit (Fanaa)
Pritam (Gangster)
Pritam (Woh Lamhe)
Vishaal Bhardwaj (Omkara)

Best Lyrics:
Gulzar (Beedi Jalaile - Omkara)
Javed Akhtar (Salaam - Umrao Jaan)
Prasoon Joshi (Chand Sifarish - Fanaa)
Prasoon Joshi (Rubaroo - Rang De Basanti)
Mayur (Bheegi Bheegi - Gangster)
Neelesh Misra (Kya Mujhe Pyar Hai - Woh Lamhe)
Sayeed Quadri (Tu Hi Meri Shab Hai - Gangster)
Sayeed Quadri (Ya Ali - Gangster)

Best Playback (Male):
Atif Aslam (Tere Bin - Bas Ek Pal)
James (Bheegi Bheegi - Gangster)
K.K. (Tu Hi Meri Shab Hai - Gangster)
K.K. (Kya Mujhe Pyar Hai - Woh Lamhe)
Shaan & Kailash Kher (Chand Sifarish - Fanaa)
Sonu Nigam (Behka Diya Humein - Umrao Jaan)
Zubeen (Ya Ali - Gangster)

Best Playback (Female):
Alka Yagnik (Ek Tute Huye Dil Ki - Umrao Jaan)
Alka Yagnik (Salaam - Umrao Jaan)
Shreya Ghoshal (Pal Pal Har Pal - Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Sunidhi Chauhan (Beedi Jalaile - Omkara)
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Best Music Nominations:
A. R. Rahman (Rang De Basanti)
Jatin-Lalit (Fanaa)
Pritam (Gangster)
Pritam (Woh Lamhe)
Vishaal Bhardwaj (Omkara)


rest is all reasonably well done!

But omitting ANu for Umrao and Javed for lyrics is criminal this year!along with alka, all 3 for Umrao jaan


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arsh wrote:
But omitting ANu for Umrao and Javed for lyrics is criminal this year!along with alka, all 3 for Umrao jaan

Yaar I had actually thought of both Javed and Anu for Umrao Jaan in their respective categories and simply overlooked adding them. I have added them now.


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My selection of nominees & winners(indicated in Underline):

Best Film
15th Park Ave.
Ahista Ahista
Lage Raho Munnabhai
Omkara
Rang De Basanti

Best Director
Aparna Sen (15th Park Ave.)
Homi Adajania (Being Cyrus)
J.P. Dutta (Umrao Jaan)
Rakesh Omprakash Mehra (Rang De Basanti)
Vishal Bharadwaj (Omkara)

Best Actor in a leading Role (Male)
Aamir Khan (Rang De Basanti)
Abhishek Bachchan (Umrao Jaan)
Ajay Devgan (Omkara)
Anupam Kher (Khosla Ka Ghosla)
Saif Ali Khan (Omkara)

Best Actor in a leading role (Female)
Alice Patten (Rang De Basanti)
Dimple Kapadia (Being Cyrus)
Kareena Kapoor (Omkara)
Konkona Sen Sharma (Omkara)
Shabana Azmi (15th Park Ave.)

Best Actor in a supporting role (Male)
Atul Kulkarni (Rang De Basanti)
Boman Irani (Being Cyrus)
Ranvir Shorey (Khosla Ka Ghosla)
Salman Shahid (Kabul Express)
Arjun Rampal (Don)

Best Actor in a supporting role (Female)
Gul Panag (Dor)
Isha Koppikar (Don)
Simone Singh (Being Cyrus)
Divya Dutta (Umrao Jaan/Waris Shah)
?

Best Music
A.R. Rahman (Rang De Basanti)
Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy (Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)
Shantanu Moitra (Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Vishal Bharadwaj (Omkara)
Salim-Suleman (Dor)

Best Lyrics
Javed Akhtar ("Rang De Basanti..." - Rang De Basanti)
Javed Akhtar ("Kabhi Alvida Naa Kenha..." - Kabhi Alvida Naa Kenha)
Mir Ali Hussain ("Yeh Hosla..." - Dor)
Swanand Kirkire ("Pal Pal .. har pal" - Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Jaideep Sahni ("Chuk Da Phata" - Khosla Ka Ghosla)

Best Playback (Male)
Daler Mehndi ("Rang De Basanti" - Rang De Basanti)
Gurudas Maan ("Katara Mila Samundar se" - Waris Shah)
Sonu Nigam ("Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna" - Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna)
Sonu Nigam ("Pal Pal .. har pal" - Lage Raho Munnabhai)
Sukhwinder Singh ("Omkara" - Omkara)

Best Playback (Female)
Alka Yagnik ("Salaam" - Umrao Jaan)
Alka Yagnik ("Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna" - Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna)
Mahalaxmi Iyer ("Aaj Ki Raat" - Don)
Sunidhi Chauhan ("Beedi" - Omkara)
Shreya Ghoshal ("O Saathi Re" - Omkara)

The following technical selections, I'll just state my personal favourite's

Best Screenplay
Vishal Bharadwaj (Omkara)

Best Editing
Rebiranjan Maltra (15th Park Ave.)

Best Director of Photography
Tassaduq Hussain (Omkara)


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J.P. Dutta (Umrao Jaan)


man :oops: :shock: :shock: same for abhishek as best actor :roll: for umrao jaan????? What did he do there? or we are filling in the gap?


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I'm just as shocked as you are. It's an amazing triumph for someone who's two of his three last films are amongst the worst ever(!) in the history of Indian cinema. In the new Umrao Jaan, there's great texture of decadence and vocal poetry. An exact sort of tangibility felt in the original Umrao Jaan. Also, Dutta atleast (In my opinion) deserves a mention for best director for not only turning 360 degrees on the direction of his creative art, but also getting Abhishek Bachchan to act(ACT!) in the greatest(and probably only, I think) melancholic performance of his career(sort of a Devdasish if you will).


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Notwithstanding the ludicrous Original Filmfare Nomination list, I've noticed on television that Filmfare is preparing a new look this year with an actual (supposidly) dress code and new rules(?). Also, stressing the idea that Filmfare are "the" film awards of Bollywood. I think it's a good marketing tactic that builds an image for the product ahead of time so the audience has a certain level of expectations for what there about to see. I hope this doesn't amount to nothing. At the same time, I'm already half convinced that with a nomination list like this, we'll surely be disappointed, again.


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DVD Collector wrote:
I'm just as shocked as you are. It's an amazing triumph for someone who's two of his three last films are amongst the worst ever(!) in the history of Indian cinema. In the new Umrao Jaan, there's great texture of decadence and vocal poetry. An exact sort of tangibility felt in the original Umrao Jaan. Also, Dutta atleast (In my opinion) deserves a mention for best director for not only turning 360 degrees on the direction of his creative art, but also getting Abhishek Bachchan to act(ACT!) in the greatest(and probably only, I think) melancholic performance of his career(sort of a Devdasish if you will).


no doubt he desrves oscar for butchering a classic, making an artist character appearing whore, a gentle nawab as goon, etc etc!!less said is better! :x


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