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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:28 pm 
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Aarkayne wrote:
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but as for Kaante, it does not hold a candle to 'The Usual Suspects'.


You did mean RESERVOIR DOGS right?

On the topic of Infernal Affairs and The Departed. IMO Departed lacked soul which was so abundant in IA.

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IA was so poetic....so philosophical...it was in the end a movie about redemption. As one of the opening scenes in the movie says there are umpteen hells in Buddhism and one of them is the concept of continous hell. By choosing what he does in the end Andy Lau ends up there but that was his only redemption. Thats brilliantly touching chaps! If you have not seen the movie, an absolute must see.


I agree that was great, if you've seen the third IF then you'll see Andy Lau in continous hell throughout the film, with quite a good ending that lives up to the words "continous hell". I was surprised that The Departed didn't have any equivelent biblical quote as Scorsese has Catholic themes in most of his films. The only quote was when the priest told Jack Nicholson's character in the Diner, "that after pride comes the fall". I thought that was weak and quite obvious in this film, it didn't need to be said.

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And Departed was reduced to only blood and gore in its climax and what a whimperous ending at that! I totally did not dig it.


It was still enjoyable - one of the best remakes but still nothing on the original. IMDB folks think it's one of the best films ever. The rooftop/elevator scene was done not as good as IA and the very ending was typical Hollywood, just to make the audience happy, the bad guy can't get away with it.


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DragunR2 wrote:
Kaante also copied some of The Usual Suspects.

Ah..have not seen KAANTE so did not know that...Thanks


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Mr_Khiladi wrote:
the very ending was typical Hollywood, just to make the audience happy, the bad guy can't get away with it.

I think that's the key difference between eastern and western philosophies....which totally stands out here....even in a movie like FEARLESS the end is what makes characters legendary in such stories(though the movie itself was ok). Justice and the sense of right, goes beyond one's own life, it goes beyond everything....it transcends a time graph....the realities of body....mind over matter if you will.

Which segues into the point raised above as in, does the bad guy really win in such a case? I do understand what you are saying, its a concept audiences here fail to get and I am glad desi audiences can to a greater extent.


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Aarkayne wrote:
I think that's the key difference between eastern and western philosophies....which totally stands out here....even in a movie like FEARLESS the end is what makes characters legendary in such stories(though the movie itself was ok). Justice and the sense of right, goes beyond one's own life, it goes beyond everything....it transcends a time graph....the realities of body....mind over matter if you will.

Which segues into the point raised above as in, does the bad guy really win in such a case? I do understand what you are saying, its a concept audiences here fail to get and I am glad desi audiences can to a greater extent.


I think western audiences tend to be of two views which is probably releted to their religious beliefs or an acceptence that nobody knows for sure what happens after death. Some believe that death is the end and whoever survives gets to live longer...a survival of the fittest attitude. Westerners may look at the first Infernal Affairs and think that justice wasn't done or it had an unfair ending. But some may like it just because the ending is something different (from Hollywood).

Eastern audiences take karma into account and see that even though the Andy Lau character lives he suffers for the rest of his life (as shown in the third part), whereas Tony Leung's character was 'released' from his suffering.

By the way, those in UK that want to see IA 2 and 3, it will be shown tonight at 12am on Channel 4 and third part tommorow night. The first part was shown last night.


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