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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:23 pm 
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AISH-VIVEK PAIR FAILS ON SCREEN

By Pankaj Shukla

Let's see whether chemistry between the real couple of Aishwarya Rai and Vivek Oberoi works or not. The answer is a big no. Aishwarya looks much older to Vivek who has been cuddling with the lady ever since she parted ways with Salman Khan. Then there were accidents on the sets of 'Khakee' and 'Yuva' where both got injured and the whole world saw them rushing to see each other in both cases. There were so many reports about the pair getting cozy on so many occasions be it the Cannes Film Festival or other parties. Aishwarya looks pretty once again on the screen whereas Vivek fails to impress this time too. He is a chocolate boy with surma in eyes but when he stands in the same frame with Aishwarya Rai, he just looks like a prop and nothing more. The casting has failed from the very first frame; Aishwarya looking much older to Vivek who falls in the shadow of her sheer beauty.



In one shot Aish looks slim (like in Dil Ka Rishta, but never like in Jeans or DAPK or HDDCS) and in the next shot fat, throughout the film. Someplace, Aish had said that she had to put on weight for Bride and Prejudice??

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Technically, the film just has good camera work. All other departments have fallen flat. The film needs to be chopped off by at least half an hour. Music by Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy is a major let down and choreography too fails to impress.


Cinematography during the opening credits and first Aish appearance is enough for "Paisa Vasool". Rest is bonus.

I found Vivek (and Aish) very natural in all his acting and specially in dance segments. I liked Vivek dance segments better than "Main Aisa Kyon Hoon).

Film moves at a slow pace and hence should be edited.

Biggest chears and scary screams were at the sudden appearance of Suneil Shetty in MHN get up.

AB appears just before Intermission and for 30-40 min, I couldn't figure out what was the significance of his presence.


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looks like a sure flop!


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From the promos the cinematography stands out. The ultra slo-mo shots kinda new to Indian cinema. The music and song picturizations looks good too. I'll check this out on dvd when it comes out.


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From the promos the cinematography stands out. The ultra slo-mo shots kinda new to Indian cinema. The music and song picturizations looks good too. I'll check this out on dvd when it comes out.


me too!!in the mean time, re watch MSK!for HOT PRIYANKA!


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Poor reactions to Vivek-Ash pairing!
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'Kyun! Ho Gaya Na...' is barely two days old but the reviews and reactions to the film are far from encouraging. At Mumbai's main Liberty cinema for example, there was major hooting and howling, during the first show itself. Reports trickling in from the smaller centres are also sub-par. The reviews in the press are negative. The Vivek-Aishwarya real-life chemistry has not worked on screen. Many feel that Aishwarya is looking far too old for Vivek, who is also unimpressive!


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Producer: Boney Kapoor, Surinder Kapoor
Director: Samir Karnik
Starring: Aishwarya Rai, Vivek Oberoi, Amitabh Bachchan, Om Puri, Rati Agnihotri, Tinnu Anand, Suneil Shetty, Diya Mirza
Music:Shankar-Eshaan-Loy
Lyrics: Javed Akhtar

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Released on: August 13, 2004
Reviewed by: Surjyakiran Das
Reviewer's Rating: 6.5 out of 10
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There are moments where Samir Karnik’s “Kyun! Ho Gaya Na...” goes on auto-pilot; that is, the debutante writer-director’s glaring inabilities take a backseat, and Aishwarya Rai and Vivek Oberoi’s natural chemistry, grace, and charm are given the opportunity to uninhibitedly unfold on screen. The most striking example of this is also the most literal - Karnik has a cameo early in the film as a struggling filmmaker who moans about his inability to script a convincing finale for his new romantic epic. As the director whines about his writer’s block, Oberoi’s character Arjun offers a solution by improvising a scene with Rai’s character Diya (a complete stranger to Arjun at this point in the narrative), in which he dramatically declares his love for her.

If this sequence stands out as one of the most earnest and sincere in the entire film, it’s because it isn’t forced in the slightest. Oberoi’s delivery and body language is at once comic and compelling, and Rai matches him step for step. There is no direct verbal exchange between the leads, but the dynamic between them is gripping. Without a doubt, the scene achieves its intended effect effortlessly. Unfortunately, the ease ends there. Karnik’s in-movie director rejoices having got his scene, and Oberoi’s character relegates control back to the dilettante with the line, “Mein iska kam karoonga to mera kam kaun karega,” (If I do his work for him, who’ll do mine?)

Karnik gets back to work but, unfortunately, his self-deprecating avatar in the film isn’t too far from reality. His screenplay, in which a boy inexplicably dedicated to the idea of an arranged marriage spurns the advances of an idealistically romantic girl, is all of drawn-out, formulaic, and downright preposterous at times. The narrative rambles through all the tried-and-true motions of the Bollywood romance picture, and incorporates one inane subplot after the other every time the central storyline runs out of steam. Before the film reaches its absurd (albeit predictable) end, which is made possible only through the unabashed employment of an entirely unconvincing deus-ex-machina, audiences will have sat through more than a half-a-dozen underdeveloped subplots ranging from the story of an orphan’s failed attempts to get adopted to a love triangle with guest star Suneil Shetty as Oberoi’s foil.

Karnik is as deficient a director as he is a writer. He wasn’t exaggerating much when, in a recent interview, he said “I still don’t know how to take a shot.” His staging is awkward, and his performers are at their best when it they are given the freedom to explore the material on their own; the shortest, most particular shots in the film are the least effective, while the longer more natural ones are the most resonant and evocative. A number of sequences seem raw - as if the actors didn’t quite grasp the material or understand their characters’ motivations. Perhaps Karnik approved takes too soon? In any case, performances by almost everyone involved are woefully inconsistent; at times absorbing and powerful, at others confused and empty.

Not surprisingly, the seasoned members of the cast fare far better than the leads, probably because they are better able to maneuver around haphazard direction. Rati Agnihotri and Om Puri are especially delightful throughout the film; not only do they perform their own roles with remarkable charm, they also share an amazing rapport with Oberoi and Rai on screen. The funny scenes involving the four of them are easily the most enjoyable of the movie. Later in the film, Amitabh Bachchan’s character provides some necessary life-support to the proceedings in the form of uplifting comic relief and a much needed sense of gravitas. A scene in which a drunk Bachchan and Oberoi discuss their love lives as Rai looks on is probably the most redeeming in the lackluster second half of the film; we start feeling for the characters again, and we realize what’s at stake for Arjun if he doesn’t understand his feelings for Diya soon enough.

Oberoi is unquestionably excellent in that scene opposite Bachchan. It seems that all of today’s worthwhile actors must have their defining moments opposite Bachchan, and Oberoi makes the most of his screen time with The Living Legend. In the rest of the film however, the youngster’s performance is hit-and-miss. He nails certain scenes with all the conviction of an established thespian but fails to convince in many others. The same is true of Ms. Rai, who is spellbinding in a number of emotional scenes, but comes off unimpressive far too often. Fortunately, Oberoi and Rai do share an undeniable chemistry that works for the film is a very good way. This connection is most prominent in a handful of quiet scenes in which both of them speak very little but express volumes through subtle shifts in their eye-contact - and despite the many verbose, dramatic scenes that fill the rest of the feature, these are the ones that really convince us of the yearning and pathos of the protagonists.

And then there are the songs, which cannot go without being mentioned. The music directors have done a tremendous job on the music for the film, and the visuals and choreography only enhance the impact. “Pyaar Mein Sau Uljhane” is probably one of the most innovatively choreographed and beautifully shot songs in Bollywood history. Bachchan’s “Baat Samjha Karo” simply explodes with energy on screen. “No No” is a real treat for fans of the lead’s dance moves, and Rai’s appeal is off the charts in it. The slower songs showcase some really gorgeous cinematography, and more of that rousing chemistry between Oberoi and Rai. Both leads look their best throughout the film, and Rai is especially stunning in all of the song sequences. With such energy, originality, and skill involved, it’s fair to say that the movie is worth watching just for the songs.

If only the rest of the film were as spectacular. “Kyun! Ho Gaya Na...” is not a terrible film, and certainly manages to entertain throughout its duration, but it is something of a disappointment. It could have been so much more, and in so many ways: so much more believable, so much more engaging, so much more enjoyable. As it is, it’s guaranteed to keep the lead pair’s fans satisfied and detractors unconvinced; it’s too weak of an effort to tip the scales in any one direction or elicit any definitive response. But Oberoi and Rai cannot be faulted; the blame belongs to writer-director Karnik. The stars can only do so much - or else, as Arjun wonders in the film, who would do their job?


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Good or Bad, it definitely was an enjoyable experience as the film is screening in good theatres. Here in Canada, AMC theatres, where this film is playing, have extra roomy stadium seating. In a theatre where normally there will be 500 cramped seats, AMCs have under 100 roomy and comfortable seats with state of the art projection on a huge screen.

As, normally we need to travel hunreds of Kms to see a Hindi film in a sub-standard theatre, when we do get a chance to see an Indian film in a decent theatre without having to travel too far, we must patronize. Moreover, we didn't find this film that bad. I might see it one more time.

I wish there were more Indian films releasing this way.


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rana wrote:
Good or Bad, it definitely was an enjoyable experience as the film is screening in good theatres. Here in Canada, AMC theatres, where this film is playing, have extra roomy stadium seating. In a theatre where normally there will be 500 cramped seats, AMCs have under 100 roomy and comfortable seats with state of the art projection on a huge screen.

As, normally we need to travel hunreds of Kms to see a Hindi film in a sub-standard theatre, when we do get a chance to see an Indian film in a decent theatre without having to travel too far, we must patronize. Moreover, we didn't find this film that bad. I might see it one more time.

I wish there were more Indian films releasing this way.


Going to GOOD THEATRE! is an ENJOYABLE experience, NO DOUBT!

But watching SUCKY film like ASAMBHAV even in MOST SLEAKEST S* PRINT was still TERRIBLE/PAINFUL experience!!


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rana wrote:
Good or Bad, it definitely was an enjoyable experience as the film is screening in good theatres. Here in Canada, AMC theatres, where this film is playing, have extra roomy stadium seating. In a theatre where normally there will be 500 cramped seats, AMCs have under 100 roomy and comfortable seats with state of the art projection on a huge screen.

As, normally we need to travel hunreds of Kms to see a Hindi film in a sub-standard theatre, when we do get a chance to see an Indian film in a decent theatre without having to travel too far, we must patronize. Moreover, we didn't find this film that bad. I might see it one more time.

I wish there were more Indian films releasing this way.


Sounds like you really value the theater quality over the film quality. I agree that the theater quality is very important, heck it's probably half the experience, but I don't think you can find me a theater that would make me enjoy Main Prem Ki Deewanin Hoon. Unless I guess, if the picture was blacked out and the sound muted :lol: .


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 Post subject: KUCH BHI NAHIN HUA!
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By Taran Adarsh, August 19th, 2004 - 0930 hrs IST


KUCH BHI NAHIN HUA!

A few days before KYUN! HO GAYA NA… was supposed to hit the screens, stories such as 'KYUN! HO GAYA NA… has had a far better advance booking than MUJHSE SHAADI KAROGI' and 'This love story has wowed the British press' were being spoon-fed to the media. A few mediapersons bought the story, a few didn't…

But Friday the 13th had a different story to tell. KYUN! HO GAYA NA… opened to a decent response [the opening wasn't fantabulous, as was made out!] at some multiplexes, but its opening at several theatres across the country was shockingly dull and uninspiring - exactly like the film made by debutante director Samir Karnik.

As many as four/five writers have been credited with the screenplay of this love story. But after you've watched the movie, you really want to meet the writers and ask them what exactly did they contribute to the film? Was it the case of too many cooks spoiling the broth? Or, perhaps, the writers took not just the actors, but even the audiences for a ride.

The other flaw is the lack of chemistry between Vivek and Ash. You'd expect two good looking, much-in-love actors share a better on-screen chemistry, but the sparks refused to fly, the passion was missing, the romantic portions lacked zing and the well-publicized 'smooch' was so concise that had you blinked an eyelid, you'd have possibly missed the 'smooch of the year'.

The fate of KYUN! HO GAYA NA… was crystal clear on the first day of its release - the audiences just didn't throng the theatres screening this love story… and it showed in the b.o. collections. And as the days progressed, the collections only slided downwards.

KYUN! HO GAYA NA… was crucial for three people mainly - actors Vivek Oberoi and Aishwarya Rai and debutante director Samir Karnik. In an industry driven by arithmetic and b.o. collections, what Vivek desperately needs is a solo hit. Ditto for Ash, who needs a hit to consolidate her status.

And as for Samir Karnik, he'll need to start all over again. He's a good technician, yes, but what the viewer hopes to watch is a story when he/she enters an auditorium. Perhaps, next time, he'll make a better film… scripted by one writer hopefully!


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rana wrote:
Good or Bad, it definitely was an enjoyable experience as the film is screening in good theatres. Here in Canada, AMC theatres, where this film is playing, have extra roomy stadium seating. In a theatre where normally there will be 500 cramped seats, AMCs have under 100 roomy and comfortable seats with state of the art projection on a huge screen.

As, normally we need to travel hunreds of Kms to see a Hindi film in a sub-standard theatre, when we do get a chance to see an Indian film in a decent theatre without having to travel too far, we must patronize. Moreover, we didn't find this film that bad. I might see it one more time.

I wish there were more Indian films releasing this way.


Sounds like you really value the theater quality over the film quality. I agree that the theater quality is very important, heck it's probably half the experience, but I don't think you can find me a theater that would make me enjoy Main Prem Ki Deewanin Hoon. Unless I guess, if the picture was blacked out and the sound muted :lol: .


You will be surprised if you saw the same film in a THX theatre. Remember Yaadein, how much it was hated by us zulmies. One of us zulmies who didn't like Yaadein initially, recently posted how much he liked it when he saw it at home with proper audio set up. I always liked Yaadein's High Octane music, but theatre where I saw Yaadein, audio was flat.


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rana wrote:
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rana wrote:
Good or Bad, it definitely was an enjoyable experience as the film is screening in good theatres. Here in Canada, AMC theatres, where this film is playing, have extra roomy stadium seating. In a theatre where normally there will be 500 cramped seats, AMCs have under 100 roomy and comfortable seats with state of the art projection on a huge screen.

As, normally we need to travel hunreds of Kms to see a Hindi film in a sub-standard theatre, when we do get a chance to see an Indian film in a decent theatre without having to travel too far, we must patronize. Moreover, we didn't find this film that bad. I might see it one more time.

I wish there were more Indian films releasing this way.


Sounds like you really value the theater quality over the film quality. I agree that the theater quality is very important, heck it's probably half the experience, but I don't think you can find me a theater that would make me enjoy Main Prem Ki Deewanin Hoon. Unless I guess, if the picture was blacked out and the sound muted :lol: .


You will be surprised if you saw the same film in a THX theatre. Remember Yaadein, how much it was hated by us zulmies. One of us zulmies who didn't like Yaadein initially, recently posted how much he liked it when he saw it at home with proper audio set up. I always liked Yaadein's High Octane music, but theatre where I saw Yaadein, audio was flat.


Whats theatre to do with YAADEIN, I dont want to REMEMBER(YAAD) that film, it sucked!!

Sound on DVD was GREAT though! Yaadein Music out of film! was way better, I loved it!


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Gupta To Vivek " How Much Will You Pay Me For Taking You ?"
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Unbelievable as it may sound , this one comes straight from the horses mouth . Filmmaker Sanjay Gupta reveals , " Vivek Oberoi sent a writer to me with a suggestion that I hear him out because he (Vivek) had liked the subject narrated by the writer and said that he would be willing to act in the the film . Vivek thought , I might be interested in producing it ."

Gupta heard the story and , in fact , found it worth backing , though only orally but the filmmaker and the actor agreed to collaborate on the project that Sanjay would produce with Vivek playing the lead role . Vivek Oberoi´s price was also agreed upon .

Unfortunately Vivek´s ´Kyun! Ho Gaya Naa...´ bombed so miserably that Sanjay Gupta says , he sent Vivek an SMS on his cellphone asking him , "How much will you pay me for taking you in the film ?"

Needless to add , Gupta says , he still hasn´t received a reply from Vivek Oberoi .


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This is really one of the worst A grade setup movies I have seen in a long time.


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This is really one of the worst A grade setup movies I have seen in a long time.


so, now u agree sanjay bro!! yeh kyun flop hogaya na?


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